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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:14 PM
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BREAKING: Request for new hearings with Rice
This is going to be a quick and dirty diary so, I apologize now- my day's almost done but I wanted to get this out there. From TruthOut, Rep. Henry A. Waxman; Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney are calling for new hearings to ascertain EXACTLY who knew what, when, and whether this administration has continued to lie about warnings involving 9/11. You can see the full text of the letter to Tom Davis, Chairman
Committee on Government Reform.

<http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/17/184320/505>
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:16 PM
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1. YES! Make our voices heard!!!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:18 PM
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2. Yes! Waxman and Maloney rock!
NGU.


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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:15 PM
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18. BUSH, 9-11? Oh that - we'll release it - but after Nov. 2nd. -->
After we're comfy back in the White House And you know - people will be so sick and tired of all this politicking - we'll make it go away fast.

We'll get them upset about SS. We'll get them upset about 150 social and environmental programs getting cut from the budget. And just in case those don't work - we'll throw in Gannon, the two-bit male escort that asked some questions of Bush.

But how did he get there people? They put him there because they wanted him there. And just as easy as they did that - they will undo it and make the story die.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:28 PM
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55. You are very cynical. But, as Lily Tomlin said,
"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up."
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:18 PM
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3. I hope we are about to take a walk on Accountability Lane...
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:19 PM
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4. GREAT NEWS!!! Things are popping!!
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 10:23 PM by ailsagirl
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:21 PM
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5. woohooo, this is a good day.(look over shoulder for terreralert)
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:41 AM
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27. Terror alert? If things get any hotter for them it'll be a terror attack
They will never go down without a fight. There'll be no Georgie waving from the steps of the Presidential Copter. He'll be in chains before he leaves.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:51 AM
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28. Terror alert on the way.
When things get too hot for the bushistas, terra alerts pop up. How obvious is this.
My gues is that THIS time, they are going to have to manufacture a car bombing somewhere. They have started talking about car bombings, so I guess we will get one soon.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:07 AM
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38. Now there's an image to ponder.
Chimp in chains. I'm just going to sit here and relish that one for a minute or two.
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:55 PM
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50. Yes, I enjoyed that image myself
but I truly believe that he is just clueless about anything going on around him. Just put him in a suit and point him in the right direction to yuck it up with those 'good folks'. He still deserves the chains those cause he is one looney fuck.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:21 PM
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6. kick
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:21 PM
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7. "Whether" they have continued to lie?
They need hearings for that?

"No one ever thought planes could be used as weapons."
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:22 PM
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8. Is this related
To the release about the 56 or so warnings the feds were given in the months preceding 9/11?
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:24 PM
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11. I believe so
In their blizzard of lies it's hard to know sometimes!!
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:25 PM
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13. I would hope so!
There's no way they can let that go without some investigation as to who knew what and when. They must question why she stated under oath, I might add, that there were no previous warnings. This is great news!
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:22 PM
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9. This has been a BAD month for BushCo so far
looks like it will be followed up by 2006 being a bad YEAR for them :D.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:24 PM
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10. Condi lied under oath at 9/11 Heaings; and again at her Nomination Hrg.
That's perjury. She needs to resign.

Yeah Waxman! Gotta go write him...

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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:24 PM
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12. This time under oath AGAIN BEYTOCH!
.. and this time hold her feet to the fire...

"were you lying before whey you said something different or are you lying now Dr. Rice?"
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:35 AM
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32. can't say it loudly enough, UNDER OATH!!!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:26 PM
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14. They requested it...but FATchance they will get it!
Repuks never betray Repuks.
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LevelB Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:46 PM
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15. Nothing will come of this...
The republicans will just get that idiot Gannon to lob a softball at the next White House briefing, and get the topic changed....

Oh wait, ;-)

B.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:36 PM
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49. Welcome to DU, LevelB! Maybe if the Dems play their cards right
they won't really need to get the hearing. If they are smart, they will paint the admin as scared to give any more info. We should scream it from the mountain tops that the repubs are obstructing TRUTH by not allowing it, in other words, protecting their own. We could win some public opinion if Dean "screamed" about it, even though the repubs would then play the race card. On second thought, maybe someone besides Dean should scream about it. Wha do ya think?

It would be great if the hearings could take place, though.
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LevelB Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:40 PM
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56. We can dream
I doubt we can get the hearings. The republicans hold the majority in both houses, and have the sitting President.

I think we can (and should) make them squirm - in public.

B.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:06 PM
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51. Welcome newbie! But Gannon WON'T be seeing the inside of ANY press room
in the near future. Not in the U.S. anyway.

Though I hear he's already advertising for "clients" across the border, in Mexico.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:46 PM
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16. Let's Hope They'll Be Successful In Getting The Hearings.....
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 10:50 PM by global1
established. With a Repug House & Senate and with the Dems caving anytime the rubber meets the road - I'll keep my fingers crossed. The 52 pre-911 warnings is the story - not Gannon. (see my previous posting earlier in the day - don't know how you can get to it though - I posted it this a.m.) Finally we have some in congress that have the guts to push this. Let's see if we can get the word out to our respective representatives in D.C. (Senators and Congressmen) that they need to push this as well.

My post earlier today was at 9:57am Thur Feb 17-05 titled - "DU Is Enamored With Gannon - Missing The Bigger Story"

Check it out - food for thought.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:03 PM
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17. Remember Condi's and *'s comments immediately after 911.
"If we only knew we would have moved heaven and earth." or how about - "We would have never expected them to use a plane." Remember Condi's testimony to the 911 Commission - lies- maybe more?

In the mean time - the 52 warnings have come and gone. The bulk of the American people don't even know that they existed. What - the story was alive for a day and a half.

Where are the Dems? Are they making the kind of issue about this as the Repugs made about the BJ and the Blue Dress. Doesn't look like it to me.


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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:23 PM
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19. We Must Be Thinking Alike - Cause Those Were My Exact Words......
looks like you found my previous post. Do you know how to post a link to it in this thread?
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:48 PM
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20. This would actually mean something in a democracy
We may have one of those again someday...
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:58 PM
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21. Someone, please, tell me these f*cksticks are smelling the coffee!!!!
Jeezus!! And for the liars, charges of treason and obstruction justice!!! At the very least, those charges, if not aiding and abetting a criminal group to murder in order to incite fear and hatred to escalate war!!!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:41 PM
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43. I think the thing with this
to make it successful is keep the news out there. Hopefully the 9/11 families will pressure this. I know if I was one I surely would.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:15 AM
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22. kicking for politicians with morals
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:08 AM
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23. I don't believe it! I love Henry Waxman and his wierdo 'stache. nt
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:32 AM
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24. Praise the Goddess, Gods, Angles and whatever
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 01:32 AM by libodem
I think she is a Condibot, Candriod-eessa, sock-puppet, I bet she has a list of words and phrases and and that is all she is programed to say. Hopefully she will soon be repeating the the 5th amendment, over and over. Or have they done away with that one, yet?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:18 AM
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25. Yeah baby! It's about time they stop beating around the...bush..
Pun police, come and get me. }(
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:37 AM
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34. If he hadn't fought so hard to expose it, you wouldn't even no the name
Kerry was the only Senator pushing this, even when his life was threatened. He continued when his own party was begging him to stop. When forced to stop he took the stuff to the Justice department. When they did nothing, he took it to a NYC DA. What else should he have done?

What have you done to sit in judgment on Kerry on this issue? He clearly went further than anyone else in the Senate.
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:04 AM
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37. self delete n/t
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 10:07 AM by bear425
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:43 PM
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44. I would love if
Senator Kerry would get involved in the 9/11 stuff. Anybody hear anything of him doing that?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:53 AM
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29. Well well but we should already know this by now.... WTF n/t
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:13 AM
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30. A record of the pattern of intentional misrepresentations is being,...
,...compiled.

This freakin' administration have seriously betrayed the loyalty and trust of the American people. The whole cabal deserves to go down in complete humility and infamy!!! :mad:
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:26 AM
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31. Sadly, folks, I think you mixing things up
In soooo many ways and on soooo many issues this is just another "been there and done that" situtation because there is a world of difference between "gasp they lied and covered up and manipulated", etc. AND the fact that THE PEOPLE DON'T CARE!!! Haven't you noticed this by now?? These minions of the republicans don't care if there are lies, murder, propaganda, etc. flowing from this White House----they love it as something great that keeps those liberals out of power and gets the people to vote for "our guy". They cheer it on if it means theat "their team wins". The dumb fuckers cannot figure out that they are turning our nation over to a real slimy element that intends to use and enslave them along with everyone else. That's why all these things never go anywhere.
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:03 AM
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36. Kick because WE CARE! If enough of us care and raise
enough hell it will make a difference!!

I want truth in my government, because we are going to need them in the coming years.

Olaf
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:44 PM
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45. And what about the
9/11 families? Don't they deserve the truth and justice for what happened?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:56 AM
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35. Charge them with accessory to mass murder! eom
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:25 PM
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39. STILL!!!!!!! We do not have THIS DIFFERENT report:
The CIA Inspector General's 9/11 report. It's the one that "names names". It was complete last year, is nort classified. They said they'e wait til after the election to release it.

WE DO NOT HAVE IT! Nobody 'round here is even asking for it! Neither are our congress people. !!??

I want this report RELEASED.

Oct. 19, 2004, from Truthout:

It is shocking: The Bush administration is suppressing a CIA report on 9/11 until after the election, and this one names names. Although the report by the inspector general's office of the CIA was completed in June, it has not been made available to the congressional intelligence committees that mandated the study almost two years ago.

"It is infuriating that a report which shows that high-level people were not doing their jobs in a satisfactory manner before 9/11 is being suppressed," an intelligence official who has read the report told me, adding that "the report is potentially very embarrassing for the administration, because it makes it look like they weren't interested in terrorism before 9/11, or in holding people in the government responsible afterward."

When I asked about the report, Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice), ranking Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, said she and committee Chairman Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.) sent a letter 14 days ago asking for it to be delivered. "We believe that the CIA has been told not to distribute the report," she said. "We are very concerned."

According to the intelligence official, who spoke to me on condition of anonymity, release of the report, which represents an exhaustive 17-month investigation by an 11-member team within the agency, has been "stalled." First by acting CIA Director John McLaughlin and now by Porter J. Goss, the former Republican House member (and chairman of the Intelligence Committee) who recently was appointed CIA chief by President Bush.


http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102004V.shtml

What are they hiding?? What are they hiding?? What are they hiding??

And why is no one DEMANDING this report????
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:37 PM
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41. I just sent the link to this to Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY)
with a request that she & Rep. Waxman demand the release of this document, if they haven't already. And indeed they may already be on it, but it never hurts to communicate, since important stuff can easily slip through the cracks. Waxman's site wouldn't let me e-mail him since I'm not in his district (nope - I'm in Oklahoma!) but I was able to get around that to reach Rep. Maloney (D-NY).
Thanks troubleinwinter for bringing this document back up - I remembered reading about it, but couldn't remember where.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:08 PM
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47. Great! I think I'll start a new thread
on this, and see if we can get more DUers to contact senators & representatives to put some pressure on for the release of this report.

Thanks!!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:45 PM
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46. I remember that report
I wonder why nobody has pressured for that. I think the dems have to use this report though now to even get access for the other one.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:53 PM
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40. Good news!
:toast:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:38 PM
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42. YAY!
This is so great. I'm very happy about this. They should use a lie dector test on her! They need to get everybody involved too. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:28 PM
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48. "Not swatting flies"
Is the key. This statement by Rice makes it clear that 9-11 was at least LIHOP.

That and not enough discussion on who exactly was placing "puts" on the airlines leading up to 9-11 shows 'somebody' had pre-knowledge of what was about to happen. I think "Buzz" needs to be recalled also.

And while were at it, declassifying Sybil Edmond's testimony on what she found in the FBI translations should clear-up the money trail.

The more I think about it, the more these 9-11 commissions start to look like a Warren Commission remix. A smoke screen with the appearance of an investigation, but really a cover-up.

Like Ford replaced Nixon, who can we expect to replace Bu$h, a member of these 9-11 commissions?
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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:19 PM
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52. I hope this investigation will win us congress in 2006 or atleast
make some gains in an off year election. If it does not,
we need a drastic revision in our strategy. It will be very
interesting to see if Howard Dean as DNC chair is going to
work. It will be a clue as to the future direction of the party.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:42 PM
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53. A waste of time....they had their chance....
No need to pretend now that they did not know she was a lying bitch.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:47 PM
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54. BINGO!! we have a winner folks!!!
anyone who doesn't think that ALL OF THEM knew about those docs LONG BEFORE they came out (yes, LONG BEFORE the ORIGINAL hearings) is sadly naive.

Waxman knew too. bank it.

its nice but grandstanding.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:18 PM
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58. But now they have the rest of the 9-11 Commission report- the party
Bush wanted suppressed until well after the election and coronation.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:16 PM
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57. EXCELLENT! But of course the White House will not allow that to happen.
Bush will say "God dammit, there was an election and I won so I get to use my political capital as I see fit."
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:22 PM
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59. Apparently Gannon knew eom
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