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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 02:06 PM
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Dems. Need to DECLARE WAR on the Mainstream, Corporate Media Whores!
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 02:14 PM by Vinnie From Indy
If I were Dean, I would REFUSE to go on Fox News Networks and I would publicly call them an "extension of the White House".

It is of critical importance that Dem's across America start calling the whore press out on their unprecedented and widespread refusal to report honestly and fairly. This needs to become a major theme for Dem's. We need to stop taking this shit lying down!

Challenge Russert, challenge FoxNEWS, challenge Tweety!


If the Dems continue to allow the corporate media to cover and spin for Bush, they will continue to lose. Exposing the media MUST become an issue that the Dems bring up at every opportunity!!!!!
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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 02:09 PM
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1. if only they would. It would be great....
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:29 AM
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15. Hey! We're talking DNC newspaper on this thread:
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 02:36 PM
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2. kick
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 02:46 PM
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3. I agree -eom
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 02:52 PM
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4. Faux news under attack!
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 02:55 PM
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5. When refering to faux...
cal it "GOP TV" everytime, always...
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 02:57 PM
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6. Good idea ! I will do that! n/t
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:54 PM
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7. The Voice of Big Business, Not Your Smiley Friend
I also think that the lying, obstructionist corporate media cannot be ignored any longer, and it cannot be pretended any more that they were giving all sides a fair hearing. This has become a hugely threatening thing, all unto itself. No longer are they reporters covering stories; now they are mouthpieces for the sponsors, using clinical psychological studies on the effects of duration-of-camera-time, facial expressions with statements, on and on to the most minute detail, to trick because they cannot convince. Since that bastard Reagan killed the Fairness Doctrine (great article in Feb. "Extra!"), no one can even get a public word out about anything; like we are gagged. We can't even tell what the true nature of our society is anymore, so cut off are we from the signs of things by these censors. You can't even feel the "sense" of an era anymore, or how things change or come and go. With no public expression, but only corporate propaganda masking as "trends," "opinions," etc., you feel as if you are living in a vaccuum, and not even in the wide-open outside. Everything is contained, corporate-regulated, owned by them. It is like a neverending infomercial from your boss piped in to your place of work.

Everything we do is jeered, as if by magic, everything they do is cheered or excused, on cue. People, even on this website, have stated things I know were not true but have been repeated by the media so casually, as if an obvious fact, and all real explanations so censored, that it is the only thing that has ever existed to a lot of people. The very sense of reality has been shifted to a corporate structure, as the media has become an overarching influence. So intrusive has it all become, that you don't even judge them as a separate part of the corporate, big-business structure, but instead, as they intended, think "with" or "through" them to a subject, and accept their version of it as if it were "ourselves." This is only now beginning to change, as people's heads explode. Even people you would think would know better, though, like Phil Donahue, never understood the hatred against media that many now feel, and always parodied it. Maybe not anymore, since they then killed Donahue, MSNBC's top-rated program; so much for "profit ruling all."

People have to understand what a vicious attacker the media is, and what is it really a front for: the entire global corporate world. It puts on this happy, smiley, grotesque-close-up face, but only as long as we were nothing but customers; excuse me, official corporate change--consumers. As soon as you try to get air time on your own public airwaves, like a citizen of your own country, watch out. They ultimately can't stop us from thinking what we want, but that was never the threat. What all their lying and censorship does, though, is make it impossible for us the people to connect with each other and organize, and therefore we are thwarted and cannot accomplish anything in our own country anymore. For those of you who think, "Well, we connect on this website," ask yourselves: After all the exposes on the 2004 Presidential election, almost all on the internet, what good did it do?

I think the media has, now, to be referred to as the corporate oppressor that it is, and stop thinking that you can "make peace" with this back-stabber. Don't take on its ways, or its techniques--you won't win, and it will only further their influence, rather than attacking and opposing it. For example, studying their "framing," rather than attacking it as lying and not telling facts. We are all going to lose ourselves completely in this ad campaign Hell.

Anyone who has thought about this must by now be almost panicking at the thought of how to get rid of this. How will this be solved?
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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:45 AM
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8. Hidden Stillness, what a fantastic letter! Welcome to DU!
My solution, and the one I keep posting about is this: CANCEL YOUR CABLE SUBSCRIPTION IMMEDIATELY!!!!!

I have Dish Network on satellite. Costs me less a month than cable tv. Comes with the regular cable "spews" channels, or you can opt out of most of them by going with the 60 channel package which is what I did immediately after the latest "selection" for president.

The dish itself was free. The installation was free. The addition of a second tv was free.

On this satellite I get two very progressive and important channels. One is Free Speech TV. The other is LINK TV. Both are very progressive with REAL news shows like Democracy Now, Mosaic, Journal from the US, Germany and the Middle East.

These two channels are viewer supported. Unlike NPR and PBS, they do not have corporate sponsorship.

Watching these two channels has opened up an entire new world to me.

Here are the websites: freespeechtv.org and linktv.org

I urge everybody to at least visit the websites to get an idea of what sort of progressive programming these channels offer. I swear, once you get a taste of this stuff, you will forget about cable tv altogether.
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pearl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 07:01 AM
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9. Welcome Hidden Stillness to DU
I too am despondent about the corporate media.
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The Minus World Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 07:20 AM
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10. Fairness Doctrine Redux
Not only that, but I believe that the Democrats should launch a strategic campaign to pressure right-wingers into supporting the re-enactment of the Fairness Doctrine.

Certainly, a majority of right-wingers are paranoid enough to believe that the mainstream news-media is tilted to the left; that the right-wing is under constant persecution by the spectre of failed, Communist thinking. Why, then, with such talk of conspiracy, would they not support a law demanding that both sides are equally represented? The average layman does not understand that the Fairness Doctrine was repealed in order to allow a more right-wing, corporatist element to control and frame the political debate in this country.

Of course, we comprehend the truth of the matter: seldom are true progressive political views discussed in the majority of corporate-owned public forums, yet a majority of Americans would identify much more closely with progressive values than to false, hypocritical conservative ones.

My suggestion: whenever a liberal or progressive appears on a show such as O'Reilly's or Hannity's, and the host makes mention of a liberal slant in the media (O'Reilly almost compulsively mentions Media Matters, and their supposed influence on America's newspaper industry), the interviewee should immediately ask for a categorical answer to the question, "If you truly believe there is a far-left bias in the media, would you support bringing back the Fairness Doctrine?"

Checkmate.

We need to streamline our public discussion, and exploit the holes in their faulty logic - repeatedly, and rapidly.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 07:29 AM
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11. Dean should go on Fox and then call them an "extension of the WH"
And do the same on the other big networks.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:56 AM
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13. I am the person who created The Dean Times in IA and NH
I am talking to Dean and his top staff now about a national Newspaper, I guess now through the DNC.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:16 AM
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14. I agree that confrontation is better than avoidance.
I believe it would be a mistake to ignore or avoid or even "turn off" CM rather than aggressively confront it. To do so would result in an even greater right-wing swing towards fascism.

In my view, it is unrealistic to believe or imagine that the American people are going to "turn off" CM or that we can possibly reach the American people by avoiding the CM.

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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 08:55 AM
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12. I would like to see Dean get with Soros and other rich Dems
about starting a cable news channel, and show these corporate media people how to report news. It doesn't even have to be a liberal version of Fox, just real news, with very little entertainment stuff.
We get very little international news.

Also we need more Air America type radio stations, and help the independent shows like Guy James.
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:45 AM
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16. Not the "Dems." WE need to declare war on the MSM!!!
eom
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NeoTraitors Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:11 AM
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17. During the Democratic
Convention Dean told viewers to watch 'Outfoxed' while on FoxNews! He could do some really good things as chair.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:19 AM
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18. I'm not worried about Howard - but as the poster said above...
...we need to back him up at every opportunity. And if you ARE worried about Howard, there's nowhere you can have a bigger impact on him at this point than from inside your county Dem Party.

NGU.


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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:21 AM
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19. He Should Out-Russert Russert
When he gets the interview, Dean should pull out a list of REAL liberal columnists that Russert has interviewed on his CNBC show that he's never brought on MTP: Krugman ... Conason ... Ivins ... Franken ... and ask why he has never brought these guys on but instead trot out long-ago-irrelevant geezers like Broder or Repunk loons like Safire and our favorite Douchebag of Liberty. Challenge him. See what Buffalo's best G.E. lapdog will do.

I mean, what can he do - ban Dean from MTP?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:26 AM
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20. Good point:
"I mean, what can he do - ban Dean from MTP?"

NGU.


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Ell09 Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:00 PM
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21. I despise Faux Newz, but CNN is just as bad now
I don't watch much cable news any more, haven't been able to stomach much of it after the election. I totally agree with a complete boycott of Faux though and have mentioned it in posts before. There's simply no benefit to anyone who's not Right Wing showing up on that channel.

Have you seen CNN in the last year? Bill Hemer in the morning would be right at home on the set of Faux and Friends. Judy Woodruff and Bill Schneider have prominent roles in the afternoon. The reports during the election were an absolute joke, John King would fawn over Dubya, while Candy Crowley always was turning up her nose at the Kerry campaign.
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meppie-meppie not Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:22 PM
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22. I couldn't agree with you more!! CNN is just as bad if not worse
than Faux and so much harder to stomach because their methods are so "under the radar" but just as f'ing detrimentally lethal, to us.:mad: :grr:
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