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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:38 PM
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In your perfect world, who would be President and VP now?
I pick Kucinich as President over Boxer, only because I agree with Kucinich on even more. Though I wonder if Boxer's death penalty stance (weak support) is only to satisfy her constituents and doesn't reflect her values. Boxer would be my choice for VP, becoming President after Kucinich's 2 terms are over. What are your choices?
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:39 PM
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1. Kucinich-Boxer
That's perfect enough for me
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:40 PM
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2. Dean and Obama
Time to Barack the vote again!

:party:
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:33 PM
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38. A 43-year-old who's been in the Senate three weeks?
You're talking about your perfect world circa 2013, right?


(I keep harping on this, but I don't wanna see him pull an Edwards.)
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:40 PM
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3. Boxer---Shelia Jackson Lee
Not Kucinich. I can't see him being a good president. He has lovely ideas, but is too uptopian to govern well. Boxer is tough. He's do a great job.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:44 PM
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14. Big thinking is always good IMO
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 05:45 PM by mvd
It's one reason I chose Kucinich. :-)
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:41 PM
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4. President Al Gore and Vice President Boxer would be starting their...
second term!

:dem:
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katmondoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:43 PM
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13. Yes President Gore
He would have been our finest President
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:23 PM
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34. VP Leiberman left to spend more time with his family....
And VP Boxer has done so well that she's on the short list for the party's presidential nomination. (Although there's lots of talk about Senator Wellstone.)

President Gore's health care initiative is beginning to bear fruit for all. His encouragement of high tech, education & infrastructure repair have infused the economy with new life after the slight dip of 2001; the surplus surely helped.

Saddam is still being watched like a hawk, but the lifting of sanctions has helped the Iraqi people. Two towers still stand at the tip of Manhattan.

W sold the pig farm & went into rehab; Laura has filed for divorce. Republicans bitch & moan--some things will never change.





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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:41 PM
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5. Bartlett/Hoynes
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:41 PM
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6. Kerry/Edwards, the real winners on 11/2/04 n/t
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:43 PM
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9. Agreed.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:42 PM
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7. Any of the Dem field would do
although I agreed with Kucinich on more, I backed Dean because he'd done an end run around the stinking DLC and built his own organization. Lieberman was my least favorite, for obvious reasons.

DLC loyalists in Congress and throughout the whole government would have made it impossible for either Dean or Kucinich to do much, though.

I really think the first order of business must be to diminish their party power. As kingmakers, they suck.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:42 PM
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8. Me and Catherine Zeta-Jones
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daydreamer Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:43 PM
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10. Hillary Clinton with Elizabeth Edwards as VP
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 05:44 PM by daydreamer
But any Democrat is better than that Texas shrub.
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utahgirl Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:49 PM
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17. How about Boxer and Elizabeth Edwards
That would work, too.

utahgirl
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:52 PM
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19. great choice!
I love Elizabeth Edwards. She is incredibly smart and capable.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:43 PM
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11. Dean and Kucinich
Dean believes in regular people, and Kucinich acts like a regular person.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:21 PM
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53. Seconded. OR Dean and Cobb.
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 08:21 PM by Carolab
I've really come to admire Cobb.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:43 PM
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12. President Dean & Vice President Clark
The ticket which should have been nominated in 2004, and the one that would have led to a Diebold-proof victory over Scarecrow & Tinman.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:44 PM
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15. Bill Moyers and Alexis Herman.
Although that cheats the true winners last November -- John Kerry and John Edwards.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:45 PM
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16. I like that Gore/Boxer combo
I go with that. I think Al Gore had the potential to be one of the finest presidents we'd ever known.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:49 PM
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18. Kucinich/Boxer n/t
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:53 PM
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20. Kerry/ Boxer
sorry Edwards...I love you too!
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:54 PM
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21. Gore / Lieberman
Just starting their second term.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:55 PM
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22. Zappa/Vidal
Frank Zappa as Prez with Gore Vidal as VP...hey you said "perfect world".
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:57 PM
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23. Yep.. I did
I wanted to hear our favorites - not the people we like who have the the best chance at winning.

Creative ticket, BTW. :hi:
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:01 PM
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50. Yeah, I'd put a re-animated Zappa and Vidal in the cabinet
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:59 PM
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24. Clark/Kerry
Nothings changed that since last year.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:02 PM
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25. Clark/Boxer, or Clark/Conyers
Let's bust a barrier while we are at it. And Dean for DNC Chair.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:06 PM
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26. President John Kerry and Vice President Joe Biden
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 06:11 PM by ginnyinWI
Atty. General John Edwards, Secretary of State Richard Holbrooke,
National Security Advisor Wes Clark, Sec. of Defense Max Cleland.
DNC Chair Howard Dean, Homeland Security Advisor Dennis Kucinich.

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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:07 PM
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27. Kennedy/Dean
I am feeling very anti-war today
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borg5575 Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:39 PM
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41. Why not Teddy?
Why not Teddy? I know he's old but isn't it time that the last surviving Kennedy brother steps up to the plate and tries to save his country?

I know I would support Teddy in a heartbeat if he runs for the nomination. I'd like Boxer for VP.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:44 PM
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63. too many skeletons in his closet. n/t
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:08 PM
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28. Thomas Jefferson and Samuel Adams
Hey...you said a perfect world, right?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:08 PM
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29. Clark/Boxer nt
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:10 PM
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30. Kerry/Mfume
Kwame Mfume outgoing President of the NAACP is really impressive to me.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:13 PM
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32. he is an impressive man n/t
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:15 PM
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33. After Boxer's terms are over..
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 06:15 PM by mvd
I would choose an African American for President. We'll see how Obama does. Really like Sheila Jackson-Lee.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:13 PM
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31. Clark and it doesn't matter
If I had Wes Clark for president, I wouldn't care who the vp was. I'd even take Edwards!

:D
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First48H Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:49 PM
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45. me too
Wesley Clark and anybody he wants!!
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:30 PM
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35. Alda/Kucinich
...or the other way around, I guess.

;)
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:31 PM
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36. Kucinich - Boxer
I had not put those two together until I saw this thread and I am liking it.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:33 PM
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37. Kerry/Boxer
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TOOLZ Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:34 PM
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39. Nader & Arianna Huffington
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:35 PM
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40. President Gore will have just started his 2nd term...
Lieberman will have stepped down for personal reasons, and new Vice President John Kerry will be just settling in. :)
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:07 PM
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69. The "personal reason" Lieberman stepped down:
He lost his "Joe-mentum."
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:09 PM
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73. There's a pill for that...
...and he can do commercials for it like Bob Dole.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:41 PM
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42. Alby Gore and John Edwards.
:(
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:41 PM
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43. Kerry/Edwards
duh
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:48 PM
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44. Dean and Clark, McCain, Cobb, Boxer, or Mfume
But I'd settle for just about any independent thinker over an establishment tool any day
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:36 PM
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58. establishment tool
IMHO_I will not be putting McCain on any independent thinker lists.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:38 PM
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59. He's been a disappointment lately
but he was a kick ass maverick until the 2004 election. Denny Hastert and Tom DeLay hate his guts. he hates Bush's guts
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:49 PM
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McCain talks the talk
but NEVER walks the walk. He puts party over principle every time.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:51 PM
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46. President Wes Clark Vice President Howard Dean or Conyers or Rangel or
Boxer or Maxine Waters or Sheila Jackson Lee. I REALLY want to see an AA and a woman as Prez or VP in MY lifetime.
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:54 PM
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47. Robert Redford/Paul Newman
really, I mean it.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:00 PM
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48. Noam Chomsky and a re-animated Thomas Jefferson
Lew Rockwell -- Secretary of State
Ron Paul -- Secretary of Defense

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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:01 PM
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49. Kerry/Edwards
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:42 PM
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51. Gore/Edwards.
Gore would have been reelected by a huge margin, with Lieberman retiring.

Edwards, who **almost** was Gore's VP pick in 2000, would be just coming on board, bringing in a new wave of energy, and aligning himself as the man to beat in 2008.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:18 PM
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52. Robin Williams Pres. Bill Gates V.P
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:23 PM
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54. Robert Redford and Gary Hart . . . or vice versa . . . n/t
.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:26 PM
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55. Gore/Dean followed by Dean/Boxer.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:32 PM
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56. Wes Clark and Julian Bond.....
or Clark/Feingold

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trillian Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:32 PM
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57. Wes Clark/whoever! n/t
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:37 PM
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60. Steve Jobs/Cliff Stoll
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 09:38 PM by zulchzulu
Since we need Steve Jobs, a very good person who knows tech and gives a positive message about American technology as well as manages virtual worlds that Pixar produces, AND we need someone who is really up on security issues, UNIX, multiple spoken languages as well is a very swell fellow, Cliff Stoll would round off the ticket perfectly.

Now THAT'S a ticket.


Steve Jobs


Cliff Stoll

Steve is at Apple. Cliff has a page: http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~stoll/
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:41 PM
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61. John/John with Clark as SoS and
Dean as Health and Human Services

Sharpton as press secretary. :-D

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mikita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:43 PM
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62. Derrick Jensen and Bill Blum
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 09:45 PM by mikita
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:46 PM
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64. Clark/Boxer!
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 09:48 PM by Dinger
I drool when I think of the debates. Still, I am sorry I missed Clark vs. the giggling murderer - that would have been one for the ages!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:49 PM
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65. Gore/Kerry... If Only Gore Had Picked Kerry
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:59 PM
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66. Robert Kennedy Sr.
Didn't it all end in '68? I'm afraid his death was the end of any hope of any real change. I've thought that many times before..and the more I learn about our great secret goverment, the more I'm convinced we don't stand a chance. But you never know.
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marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:05 PM
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68. Good one. I'd settle for Teddy
maybe with Conyers as VP.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:03 PM
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67. Gore/Dean .............. and in 2008
Dean/Boxer or some other liberal and/or populist female candidate.
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marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:12 PM
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70. yesterday's men, sorry n/t
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mithnanthy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:22 PM
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71. President Gore and V.P. Kucinich
Two men I trust completely to represent and stand-up for ALL the people, especially concerning the most important issues.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:30 PM
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72. Ben and Jerry
Ice Cream Heaven!
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:10 PM
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74. Frank Zappa and Kurt Vonnegut
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