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NotNInch Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:13 PM
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Prediction : Somethings going to happen
I just have to get this off my chest and find out if anyone else senses a change.

Have you noticed how * is showing a glimmer of artificial humility lately. He has even almost owned up to making an almost mistake. This has been his mode at least since January 6th. It is totally out of character and I hope very painful.

The only issue he seems to arrogantly posture on is Social Security privatization. His message on that seems to be 'support it or I'll make sure you are not re-elected.' He can do that too cuz he counts the votes, and they know it.

So in light of his new-found humility, I predict either a new major catastrophe within the states in order to enact martial law, or some kind of finding or legal action already in the works, that challenges his administration. Maybe Valerie Plame?

Anybody else sense something ominous in the air?
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:17 PM
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1. I do sense something is about to happen.
I could be awful. I could be awful to some and great for others. I don't know it is just a feeling.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:18 PM
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2. I've been sensing a change also.
Almost to the point of wondering if I should worry about what these criminals are up to now.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 02:35 AM
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48. Like another "another Pearl Harbor" to make a case against Iran?
I'm expecting a dirty bomb soon.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:18 PM
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3. well, I have thought for a while if his approval ratings go down too low,
"something" bad will happen, letting them declare martial law and making him dictator. They have to be saving Osama for SOMETHING.

God help us.

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NotNInch Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:23 PM
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4. Right
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 09:33 PM by NotNInch
That's my fear. He's certainly not in a position to go into Iran or Syria yet. I'm afraid it will be gas.

Then we all get to watch them and the media manufacture history again.

I wonder who they'll blame this 2nd catastrophe on?
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:24 PM
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5. I wonder if he's not
suddenly realizing that now that he's "won", the shitstorm he's created is going to swallow him up! There's nobody to blame but himself and his policies are creating a huge mess that people will begin to see eventually...even those who voted for him.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:34 PM
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7. That's what he SHOULD be feeling
But the man has not an ounce of self-awareness. Reflection, sensitivity and humility are simply not in his or his supporters' natures. As far as the original question, I haven't a clue whether "something" is going to happen soon-I just know (through painful experience) that * will not be held accountable.


:cry: :scared:
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NotNInch Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:37 PM
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8. I hope you are right . . .
on every count. That it swallows him up soon and that the people begin to realize they've been duped and duped again. It'll be tough unless some of the media breaks ranks. That would be too cool! Eat him up for the right reasons, like they tried to eat up Clinton for the wrong reasons.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:59 PM
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23. I doubt it
He is not that smart and Evil Dick and Rummy are still feeding him BS.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:33 PM
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6. I've noticed a little bit
even pro-shrub, conservative columnists seem to be taking him - let me rephrase that - his policies, to task. There's a tiny bit of noticeable anti-bush type corporate media, particularly in regard to SS and the war, too. The thing is, you just never know with this administration. Is it ROVED, or is it actual changes-of-heart?

The "humility" is stunning, since it was so closely followed by his idiotic pronouncement that the election proved the people approved of his policies. They just can't let him talk on his own for a second or he screws it up.

He is such a raving maniac.

Yeah I smell something ominous, I just don't know for whom yet.
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NotNInch Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:45 PM
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9. I forgot about that latest pronouncement.
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 09:51 PM by NotNInch
Was that him or was that Rove?

Maybe his throne is in jeopardy and the powers that be are considering replacing him.

Then there's the bit about Germany prosecuting several of them for torture. And Gonzales has been on the hot-seat demonstrating that he can't even think on his seat, let alone his feet.

* sure seems to be on his knees for some reason.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:59 PM
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14. Oh, that was him
Rove would never have let him say that, when he's supposed to be being humble and all.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:34 AM
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41. I think it's pretty ominous
to have a president this stupid!

He says he can't find Osama Bin Laden because he's "hiding?"

No shit, Deputy Dawg! Lawdy help us all...:scared:
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:39 AM
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42. LOL
thanks for the laugh! I mean, it's not really funny because it's so true, it's just the way you wrote it...

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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 02:27 AM
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47. We need all the laughs we can get lately
and it's better than crying! Humor has got me through other
dark days. I think it'll help these days too, especially since
* gives us SO MUCH to laugh at! I can just hear his handlers
after he ad libs some line like that one! LOLOLOL!
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:46 PM
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10. Well, a friend of mine told me this the other day
She said that for a whole week prior to 9/11 she felt great anxiety, etc., and that Monday and Tuesday, it was so horrific she couldn't even go to work. Once Tuesday morning "happened," the anxiety lifted. But up until tht point she couldn't tell whether she was picking up real threat and whether it was to her personal home or being, or to the nation or city or what.

NOW she has a sense that while we should all go right ahead and be involved in whatever activism, etc., that we feel drawn to, that "something" is going to happen to or in the U.S. that will make all of this just not that important. "It will change everything." It will apparently be awful and I don't think she was explicity about this but it sounded like we'd all be fairly involved in basic survival issues. She couldn't be specific and once again couldn't really tell if her concerns were PERSONAL or national or what. Nor could she say when.

I pass it along FWIW.

And then, of course, there's this, for anyone who's even passingly familiar with astrology:

Aug. 13, 2010
http://www.gaiamind.org/aug13-2010.html
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NotNInch Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:03 PM
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15. Since I know nothing about what I know nothing about . . .
(that's rummy-speak)

. . . I'll not leave any stone unturned.

Please let us know if she gets an inkling of where in the states the event will happen . . . or what type of event.

Now how do I sleep tonight?

I do not recall anticipating 9/11 but I do recall doubting the explanations and solutions almost immediately. It was all just too pat and coincidental from the get-go.

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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:53 PM
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21. Wasn't anticipating 911 However I certainly was anxious about the
.......Media Consortium Report!!!!.......
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NotNInch Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 03:47 PM
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33. What is the Media Consortium Report
How did I miss that one or are you being facetious ?
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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:46 PM
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36. I cannot spell facetious much less be it....
...I am referring to the Media analysis post 2000 election report.....It was "spread" far and wide (buried)and I'm certain that you have picked up on it.....Possibly the title is misleading....
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NotNInch Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:22 AM
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40. Wow, did I go off a wild chase . . .
Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 12:26 AM by NotNInch
. . . even googled Media Consortium Report. Hey, there was one in . . . . Canada. Thought I missed something juicy. Thanks for the trip. (not meant as sarcasm!)

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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:39 AM
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43. None Of The Above!!!........No Spin
......Canada eh?.....btw is Diebold still there?....Ask around re: Newspaper sponsored recount post 9-11.....in any case w/o straying too far, I was expecting a media report re:2000.....911 delayed the release of the report....Best Wishes
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:56 PM
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22. Could it be Peak Oil? Economic-Related?
Edited on Sun Jan-16-05 11:17 PM by NEOBuckeye
Declining global Oil reserves, should we hit a "cliff" in production, could fairly quickly create the sort of "struggle for survival" environment that your friend describes. If it's very sudden, however, it might be more the result of a major cutoff in the supply line, like a "super-tanker" getting bombed, or a sudden and successful coup d'etat against the Saudi Royal Family, in which case the new rulers suddenly cut off all Oil supply to the US, or decide to start charging extreme prices. Either way, gas prices could spike dramatically, with major reprocussions that would shatter the economy and rock the very foundation of American society.

Consider the strong possibility that you will be paying at least $5.00 per gallon at some point within the next 6 to 24 months, and maybe as much as $10.00 per gallon. Maybe even $15.00 per gallon of gas! Also, consider what you would do if that event were to occur. Many people who travel significant distances to work by car will likely have to consider carpooling with co-workers, telecommuniting if possible, or even quitting their jobs altogether because they won't be able to afford to pay for gas. This is where the "American Dream" to live in the suburbs and ex-urbs could indeed become a nightmare for millions of people. (Google "End of Suburbia" sometime.)

Also consider that virtually all shipping today depends upon petroleum-powered vehicles. That means mail, retail, groceries, etc., which all travel by car, truck or plane at some point in their journey to your home. No, food isn't likely to suddenly stop showing up on the shelves, but there might not be nearly as much of it available as we've been used to, and stores may be more frequently "out of stock" when it comes to particular items. However, everything that they do carry, since it may cost more to ship those items, may come with significantly higher prices. There could be dramatically increased difficulties for people who already struggle to put food on their tables, and many more who until that point would have been living fairly comfortable lives, could suddenly join them. People losing their jobs for one or more of any number of economic-related reasons will put many into desperate, survival situations.

I'm no astrologer, but I have read some articles on Pluto moving into Capricorn in 2008 & 2009, which seems about the time when most of this energy and economic stuff will really be hitting home for most people, if it hasn't already done so before then. Capricorn represents structure, including the "established order" of governments and corporations, while Pluto causes destruction and rebirth. You do the math.

Even if you don't believe in astrology, you cannot deny the intrinsic vulnerability of a structural system that depends upon tenuous relations with foreign nations for 90% of its' energy supply. Add to the mix that the structure seeks to use the same energy supply as fuel for its military, which serves as a conquering force for corporations, which in turn now largely depend upon foreign labor for the production of their goods and services, which also in turn has fostered the accumulation of massive amounts of debt by and within the US, and you have a genuine recipe for chaos when one more parts of this structure breaks down.

I can't forsee the fate of George W. Bush, his vile snake of a father, George H. W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Rove, or any of their associates. But I do believe that they will be in for some sobering and unanticipated surprises (even for them) before the end of the Bush II term. Right now, the joint Neo-Conservative/Bush Cabal, with the US government seemingly firm in its hands, appears almost invincible to the untrained and unaware. But the truth is, they are acting almost exactly like drug addicts in the terminal stages of their disease. Their drug isn't crack or acid, however, but oil, and it is becoming increasingly more difficult to obtain. Crack is a high for an addict, just as Oil is power for the Bushes and their associates. You know what happens to an addict who can't get his fix. He suffers devestating and even fatal withdrawal.

Imagine what would become of the Bushes, Big Oil and the Neo-Cons without their beloved Oil? That may be oversimplifying, but you can use your imagination to picture the good news. But there is also bad news for us, in that we, too, are extremely dependent upon oil in more and less obvious ways that will become devestatingly, painfully apparent to everone in the coming months and years. North American society in general is going to suffer through a withdrawal for its' addiction to oil.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:31 PM
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27. This nation is not prepared for that
This nation is not prepared for those circumstances and those things will happen and will happen soon. To prepare yourself I say you should do two things. Buy a fuel efficient car and move out of Surburbia and into a walkable mixed-used neighborhood. It wouldn't hurt to start riding a bicycle.

Check out this article for more information.
http://www.kunstler.com/mags_Sleep.html
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:21 PM
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38. And learn to garden --
organically !!
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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:09 AM
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49. Yes, I felt similar. I felt it before the Tsunami and have felt it buildin
g this week. I hope that people are paying attention to their instincts and being protective of themselves and each other.

There is a new constructive, cooperative energy evolving, and at the same time an old, destructive energy that is bent on harm...and people, the animals and the planet are in the middle.

The new template is challenging, as we are in the midst of creating it. I know that eventually we will become a more gentle, compassionate and inclusive humanity...and until that happens broadly...we need to take extra good care of ourselves, people who need support, the animals, and the environment.

Eric Francis is also a wonderful astrologer
http://www.planetwaves.info
:grouphug:
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:52 PM
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11. There has been something ominous in the air ever since the
Supremes appointed * in December of 2000. How much worse can things get? Stay tuned. I don't think what the moron-in-chief says has anything to do with it, he is clueless, maybe that thing on his back that tells him what to say was broken and one of his few undamaged brain cells was working. Anyway, he promised to try to watch what he said, and then just a day or two later comes up with that stupid "accountability moment" line.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:55 PM
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12. He lost
the battle in UN. There is just too many countries against him. He is stuck in Iraq. His lies are all unravelling. The only thing US has is its military strength. But it counts for nothing when pitch again the world. US cant afford to get out of UN. US cant afford to have ruling make against US hence they need to stay in. He has doom US leadership in the world. The EU will be taking over this role in the future.

He failed as a leader in this world. He fail as a leader for US
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:57 PM
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13. January 20 is bad enough an event for me. But I note the lack of "terra"
alerts after the "erection" and that the holiday season was allowed to run its course without the gov't scaring the crap out of people. (Didn't want to take the risk of decreasing sales I imagine.)

But as our fearful leader forges ahead to new challenges he may require some more reminders of how vulnerable the masses are and how much we "need" Bush and Cheney to keep us safe from all sorts of things, including our own retirement funds. They're gonna terrarize the populace in another fashion, that much is for sure. x(

What else, who knows?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:06 PM
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16. Yeah, and why is gas so cheap? n/t
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NotNInch Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:14 PM
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17. Kick n/t
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:21 PM
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18. I've had the "something's not right/something's going to happen" vibe
for over a month now. The Mosul attack happened, and that didn't shake the feeling. The tsunami wasn't it. The weird weather in the western US isn't it...I don't know what the heck it is--maybe major attacks before the Iraq elections? With Bush in office, I feel like "something awful's going to happen" is just a normal mindset.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:44 PM
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19. Bush is not on
the offendsive he is on the defendsive. That is one sign. No doubt it appear all calm at the surface. However his answer to everyone need to be accepted. Especially to those who are attacking. Some battles are not fought in the open but I believe they been fought.
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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:51 PM
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20. Do not pre occupy with speculative fear.......
.....Simply be heard!!!.....Momentum to effect the truth.... Big Wheel Keeps On Turning!!!!
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:51 AM
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44. The Wheel
The wheel is turning and you can't slow down,
You can't let go and you can't hold on,
You can't go back and you can't stand still,
If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will.

Won't you try just a little bit harder,
Couldn't you try just a little bit more?
Won't you try just a little bit harder,
Couldn't you try just a little bit more?

Round, round robin run round, got to get back to where you belong,
Little bit harder, just a little bit more,
A little bit further than you gone before.

The wheel is turning and you can't slow down,
You can't let go and you can't hold on,
You can't go back and you can't stand still,
If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will.

Small wheel turn by the fire and rod,
Big wheel turn by the grace of God,
Every time that wheel turn 'round,
Bound to cover just a little more ground.

The wheel is turning and you can't slow down,
You can't let go and you can't hold on,
You can't go back and you can't stand still,
If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will.

Won't you try just a little bit harder,
Couldn't you try just a little bit more?
Won't you try just a little bit harder,
Couldn't you try just a little bit more?

Garcia/Hunter
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:06 PM
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24. You are not alone! I was talking to my husband about this yesterday!
I think something is DEFINITELY up! He is setting us up for something...your guess is as good as mine! It frightens me to even think about it!
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:08 PM
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25. He has a Prozac kind of calmness
The humility might be just playing to the Christian base to inflate popularity, increase ease of using "mandate" power. Could it be cover for some event, I would say yes.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 01:15 AM
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46. Maybe they changed his meds. n/t
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sympa Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:12 PM
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26. interesting observation
please correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't bush almost admit to a mistake in the barbara walters interview? if that's the case, i wonder if he just let his guard down a little bit since he isn't campaigning for his job (in a very sketchy election). combine this near confession to his bit about "the time for accountability has past...i was re-elected and that proves that the people approve of what i'm doing and how i'm doing it' and i think it may be a matter of him getting off message a little bit.
then again, i may be looking at it like this because since post-9/11 when i realized that he was going to sink the ship he was supposed to be navigating, i've had an awful feeling that something HUGE would have to happen in order for the world to wake the f--k up!! and i'm so tired of feeling afraid of what bush may do to not only our country and our democratic experiment, but the entire world that i try to remind myself that sometimes my premonitions of awful things to come (i had that feeling right before a semi-truck plowed into my 1991 nissan sentra on the highway) are just premonitions and don't amount to anything. besides that, i can only control my portion of the universe (myself) and i am trying to find peace in that.

i hope you're very wrong.
:eyes:
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:43 PM
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28. something far more mundane: EUROPE
he's trying to ingratiate himself into the halls of europe, exactly what he promised he wouldn't do, as he bashed kerry for supposedly planning on doing.

his advisors have realized that they need europe not only to bail him out of iraq and/or permit any further military aggression on our part, but also to head off any potentially nasty boycotts or tarriff disputes.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 07:49 AM
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31. I suspect
the current administration will actually use a lot of Kerry's ideas. I think Shrub knows his first term, historically, was probably the worst in presidential history. He's about legacy this second term. I think we will see a "kinder, gentler" president this next time around so history has something to balance the bad with. He and his administrations' egos are much too large to go down as the biggest f*ck up in history.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 07:20 AM
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29. nah -- the worst already happened
the election.
your nerves are just waking up is all.

the disasters that follow are just reminders that bush's boot really is up our collective asses.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 07:46 AM
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30. Yes, I am puzzled by the uncharacteristic posturing
of the good guy who has switched from military jackets to wearing a be bop costume with shades, a scarf, boots and a white hat.

I am puzzled by this change in his "image" No doubt it has been assigned to him by his handlers. He is so bereft of any feeling that this simply cannot be a sincere and honest representation of a "great" president.

Could be he has sewn the whole thing up now and there is no need for displays of manly courage, bring em on, get em dead or alive and all of that. There is no election forthcoming, and he has complete control over everything that affects our lives and our children's lives, and we know his ambitions are evil.
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NotNInch Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:22 AM
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32. kick n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 04:11 PM
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34. Accordingly, Nostradamus sez the shit has already hit the fan
it just takes a while for the big machine to come to a screeching halt!

I don't know if I trust Nostradamus, I've been studying his astrological signs and accordingly he is full of it also!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 04:26 PM
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35. I dreamed last night...
....that I was in the same room with George. He was a wreck, tortured by his conscience or by fear of something. He was sweating and crying and in absolute torment, as if he had lost his mind almost. I tried to think of what I could say that would calm him down. I thought I should pray for him -- it was the only thing I could think to do.

I woke up.
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:13 PM
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37. His Approval Rantings have dropped
So he's showing his compassionate conservative side in order to garner enough support for his evil plans like privatizing social security and maybe even attacking another country.

I don't think there's anything weird about it. This is pretty much standard operating procedure for him. What boggles my mind is the American public falls for it. I wonder wow much his approval rating went up after that Barbra Walters interview.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:38 PM
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39. There is nothing unusual happening
He is rushing to the "center". It is the only place he can salvage his presidency. Look at his sudden lack of interest in the constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. He needed the homophobes to carry states like West Virginia and Missouri and it worked quite nicely. His speech Thursday will be designed to get his approval ratings into the low 60's and do not be surprised if he temporarily succeeds.
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:57 AM
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45. I rarely watch TV news anymore but tonight
I turned it on and Dan Rather was going to interview him and Peter Jennings had a reporter who ask him questions. Suddenly he is accessible??? I don't know but something is up. It feels like we are in the center of the vortex of water going down the drain so I'm not sure if the feelings you are having are about what is, what has been or what will be but I know I am very nervous about the future of this country whether georgie is playing nice or not.
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