Falwell: NOW= "Nat'l Order of Witches"

[rainbow4321]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FEMINISTS_TOUGH_TIMES?SITE=TXSAE&SECTION=US&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT



NEW YORK (AP) -- America's feminist leaders and their critics agree on at least one current political fact: These are daunting times for the women's movement as it braces for another term of an administration it desperately wanted to topple.

"The next four years are going to be tough, so we must be tougher," National Organization for Women president Kim Gandy recently told supporters. "Our health, our rights, and our democracy are teetering on the brink."

NOW, the Feminist Majority Foundation and numerous like-minded groups campaigned zealously against President Bush, contending that his economic agenda would inflict disproportionate harm on women and that his potential judicial appointments could jeopardize abortion rights

Many of the conservative activists and organizations that cheered the GOP triumph - and now claim expanded influence in Washington - are stridently anti-feminist. The Rev. Jerry Falwell, for example, recently referred to NOW as "The National Order of Witches"

[Darth_Kitten]

1. LOL

Go ahead, Jerry Falwell, show your true colours.

Amateur. :)

[AntiCoup2K4]

2. That's nothing compared to Pat Robertson's definition of feminism

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians."

[Raster]

3. he forgot tthe toaster. when you become lesbian you get a toaster.

[Darth_Kitten]

7. LOL

Damn, free electrical appliances for each one who signs up, eh?

Funny, Raster!! :)

[aeolian]

16. I need a new toaster...

...can I get one as a straight male? That's like being a lesbian in a man's body.

[Raster]

18. no, you get the george forman. the toaster is reserved for REAL lesbians

[aeolian]

20. (whining) Awwwwww!

Wish I was a real lesbian.

*sniff*

Then I'd have a toaster.


Well, since I've got this attractive and manly (in a hetero sort of way) new grill, anyone want a soggy grilled cheese sandwich? If you want something drier, you'll have to go talk to the lesbians over there.

[Raster]

25. you know, you and the lesbians could form an appliance co-op...

[aeolian]

27. Welcome to "Ten Lesbians and a Straight Guy House of Appliances!"

The straight women and gay men are running the fabric store accross the street.

[Contrary1]

29. If I say I swing both ways...

can I get me a new waffle iron?

[aeolian]

32. Incredible!

You actually found the average of a Toaster and the George Forman Grill!

(Toaster + G.F.Grill) / 2 = Waffle Iron

Q.E.D.

I'm speechless!

[LostinVA]

60. A Toaster? I Got a Blender

eom

[KitchenWitch]

103. I am holding out for the big screen tv thank you!

[louis-t]

4. Why the heck does anyone listen to Robertson?

The guy belongs in a circus freak show.

[w4rma]

56. mamon (money) (nt)

[Kurovski]

79. PTL club= Pharisees Taking Lucre.

WE listen to Falwell, Robertson, Phelps--ad nauseum, because it's important to know what patriotic Americans, and those of sincere faith, are up against.

But the real problem is the Bush administration which welcomes the "hypocrites and false profits" into our government only to use them for nefarious and earthly purposes.

In so doing, Bush denigrates both religion and government.

Every message Christ left to us is apparently lost or perverted by all of the above mentioned individuals and entities.

[Coventina]

5. My favorite bumper sticker of all time:

"Sorry I missed church, I've been busy practicing witchcraft and becoming a lesbian"

I wish I had the ovaries to put that on my car, but I'm a coward.

[noonwitch]

65. Mine says "Come The Rapture, Can I Have Your Car?"

I really haven't gotten much of reaction from it.

[musette_sf]

84. I like the one with the pentacle

and the word CLERGY.

[CatholicEdHead]

24. Is that all?

I thought it was more.

:rolleyes:

[potone]

31. So true, and what I find most revealing in that description

is the end of it: "become lesbians." That, of course is what Robertson and his ilk are most afraidd of, and with good reason. What sane, self-respecting woman would want a man who harbors such hatred for women? For men like him, women must be dominated or we will reject men. Deep down, he must know that men with his views do not deserve the love of women.

But this is a relatively new twist, historically. The norm has been to accuse uppity women of promiscuity, not lesbianism. This just goes to show how threatened these men really feel.

Thank God not all men are like this!

[oneold1-4u]

70. Behind the zipper

Is where 99% of male minds are 95% of the time! Sadly there are a lot of them get all mangled in the zipper trying to hide. Far worse than any closet with a swinging door! At least gays can get out with a whole brain left, even if bruised.

[yardwork]

73. Most men are not like this, in my experience.

That's why Falwell and Robertson are so scared. If most men and most women are left alone to live their lives, people(?) like Falwell and Robertson will be all alone.

Tough luck, hate-mongers of the world. Most of us will continue to lead happy productive lives ignoring your bizarre spew. We're not going to send you any money either.

[iwantmycountryback]

46. And what about forcing women to have abortions against their will?

I thought they did that to.

[Skittles]

53. it amazes me anyone listens to that disgusting gasbag

yet usually when I see him he has an audience of the vacant-eyed

[outrage]

80. practice witchcraft, eh?

If that were true, Kerry would so be president right now. Fundie fidiots. They blame feminism for everything. I suppose feminists are responsible for the tsunami, too.

[ikojo]

102. Interesting that many of the women who

kill their chldren tend to be from very fundamentalist families....

The lady in Texas who drowned all of her kids was extremely fundamentalist.

Susan Smith who sent her car into the river while her helpless children sat strapped in their car seats in the back, her step daddy wsa head of her state's Christian Coalition.

[rainbow4321]

108. Texas mom that cut off baby's arms was, too..

The one that said God told her the night before to kill the baby...she had told this to the father, also, and the father ignored it and went to work the next day...leaving her home alone with the baby.

BTW, he is regaining custody of the other 2 kids..

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D87HKLG80.html

The surviving daughters of a woman accused of killing her 10-month-old baby by cutting off her arms could be returned to the custody of their father.

A tentative agreement was reached Monday to return the girls to their father, John Schlosser, but the agreement requires a judge's approval, The Dallas Morning News reported in its online edition Monday night.


But John Schlosser and his attorney, Howard Shapiro, met with Child Protective Services officials and lawyers Monday morning. They agreed that the girls should be placed in their father's care if his sister, who lives in New York, agrees to move to Texas to help with the transition, said attorneys involved with the case. Shapiro declined to name the sister, but said she plans to fly to Texas by early next week


According to court records, the father began counseling last month and is scheduled to start parenting classes this month. He has attended weekly visitations with his children and undergone a psychological evaluation.

[havocmom]

6. Oh, how I wish his silly superstitions were really true!

He'd have been a toad* decades ago and we wouldn't have to listen to his bigoted blather. Alas, we are just mere mortals who refuse to take orders from the likes of him; and that's the real problem, isn't it Jerry?

Would love to show up at a Falwell event with 50 buddies, all in those tee shirts which boldly proclaim: Eve was framed!

*Or maybe a newt...;)

[rodeodance]

9. the slimball thinks he cute saying that!!

[AntiCoup2K4]

14. Isn't one Repuke "Newt" enough?

[tsuki]

30. Actually, he dumped #2 because she had MS.

[Maria Celeste]

8. So What

I have been disenchanted with NOW and their ilk for some time now. They may have been something once, but seemed to have lost focus. They have hi stoically ignored many of the day in day out issues of working class women and women of color in favor of things that get them on the news. This is not to say that the RW crazies are just and fair to women. Falwell is about as regressive as you get. Its just that NOW, for me at least, lost much of its luster long ago.

[murray hill farm]

11. I so agree with you, but as an exNOW member, i would have to say

well thanks, rev., but that would be "Ms" Witch, if ya dont mind.

[leesa]

26. So, of course you are a member trying to get them to do the right thing

Or are you just a pissant critic of an organization that has done a lot for women.

[Maria Celeste]

37. I chose to put my resources elsewhere

I was a member, but the national leadership was not interested in anything but their agenda. Us rank and file types did not get the big picture (paraphrase from a form letter I got back). Figured that they did not need my time or money after that.

Since then I have focused on local impacts. Mentoring, support groups, schools, neighborhood organizations.

[tx_dem41]

40. Issues concerning working class women and women of color are...

..."pissant" issues? Oy vey!

[BrklynLiberal]

10. One of the 14 points of Fascism

5.) Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

[rainbow4321]

12. His list of "God ordained minorities"

http://www.tylwythteg.com/enemies/falwell.html


"I do not believe the homosexual community deserves minority status. One's misbehavior does not qualify him or her for minority status. Blacks, Hispanics, women, etc. are God-ordained minorities who do indeed deserve minority status." Jerry Falwell, USA Today Chat

[sakabatou]

13. So god chooses who and who isn't in a minority

So if I was the only one who sacrificed goats, I can be called a minority by my behavior.

[aeolian]

21. Not if you're gay, apparantly.

[Lenape85]

23. Wait, aren't women actually the majority

[yardwork]

77. You're right. I didn't see your response and posted below.

[FlaGranny]

68. That statement of JF is so

silly I don't know what to say. Blacks and Hispanics are only minorities in the US, not the entire world. I'd have to do some research, but speaking on a world-wide basis (I think God was supposed to have created the whole thing) I believe Caucasians are actually a minority, yes?

[rainbow4321]

87. Remember shrub's "do you have blacks here?" question...

When he was visiting Brazil a few years ago he asked one of the officials there "do you have blacks here, too"...couldn't remember the country off-hand but googling brought this up:


http://www.squall.co.uk/squall.cfm/ses/sq=2002061401/ct=1


He's dropped some real goofies in his short time as US president, but George W Bush came up with the worst so far whilst visiting Brazil in May. In conversation with Fernando Henrique Cardoso, the 71 year old president of Brazil, Bush blurted: "Do you have blacks here too?".

An embarrassing silence was punctuated by Condolezza Rice, the black US National Security Advisor, who hastily chimed in to the rescue by telling Bush that Brazil had a higher black population than any country outside Africa. Spared the necessity of having to give Bush's dumb question an answer, Cardoso later described the US president as "still in training".

[FlaGranny]

89. Who could forget.

:-)

[bunkerbuster1]

92. that's prolly an urban legend

see
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/brazil.htm

[XemaSab]

97. 6.5 billion people on earth

33 million Oceaneans

185 million Central Americans

329 million North Americans

371 million South Americans

729 million Europeans

887 million Africans

3,910 million Asians

From US Census Bureau

[FlaGranny]

101. Thank you -

it looks like there are probably roughly similar numbers of Caucasians and blacks in the world, but anyone who is not Asian is definitely a minorty. :-) Silly Jerry Fallwell.

[seventythree]

107. and hispanics are caucasion

[yardwork]

74. Women are minorities? No we're not.

Females make up more than 50% of the human population. Slightly more females than males survive infancy. Females are tough.

But then, Falwell doesn't know much science.

[aeolian]

15. Boy, does he ever need to get laid. (n/t)

[snippy]

39. I think his mother has passed away. n/t

[yardwork]

76. LOL! Good one.

[Raksha]

98. Yeah, but who'd volunteer?

[proudbluestater]

17. Please pass the burkas and muzzles, lest we try to SPEAK and LIVE FREE

[robbedvoter]

19. Be careful what you wish, Jerry - you may get it

[DemBones DemBones]

22. Why does anyone listen to that blithering idiot?

:shrug:

[snippy]

41. Because he is one of the most powerful republican leaders in the country.

Every person who votes republican for any office empowers and condones Falwell and by their vote becomes a vital Falwell supporter. The democratic party should educate the public to the fact that three of the most powerful republican leaders in the country are Falwell, Dobson, and Robertson and that every vote for a republican is a vote to support these men and their beliefs.

[housewolf]

28. I am really tired of this...

I and many of "us" have been discounting these people for decades when they do this kind of crap. I've poo-poo'ed them, ignored them, waved them asided and discounted them.

Now, I'm tired of it. I am tired of letting them get away with this kind of stuff. This is verbal abuse. This is abuse of power. This is unchristian-like behavior. This is bullying. This is wrong and immoral behavior.

And I, for one, am feeling the need to stand up against this kind of abuse that they chose to heap upon any group that they don't like.

I am not now nor have I ever been a member of NOW. I have never been a strident feminist. Never burned a bra even though I came of age in that era.

But I sure as heck do appreciate the work of those who did - those women and men who were and are committed to full rights, equality and full self-expression for all members of society regardless of gender (or color or religion or physical abilities or country-of-orign or intellectual capapcity or any other characteristic). Many people have gone out on a limb and suffered persecution to secure the rights of others.

And you know what, it's just no longer right or okay for me to disregard and ignore the bullies like Fallwell, Robertson and Dobson. I'm writing Fallwell a letter TODAY reprimanding him for his behavior.

These people are acting like schoolyard bullies. The election has emboldened them and they are becoming more agressive in their bullying. I can't stand for it.

So, what to do??? I've never been a teacher, nor have I raised any children so I don't really know how to deal with them? Does anyone have any ideas?

The only thing I can think of is to use the tool of SHAME - they are shameless in their behavior so all I can think of is to attempt to shame them into behaving better. (Not that I really think my single letter will have much effect... ) I am open to the ideas of others who may have insight as to how to begin to deal with these folks. We have been letting them get away with this stuff for far too long now.

[Stepup2]

34. Well said!!

It is time to stand up and be heard on this issue. As women we are in the majority, and as Dem's comprise 50% +- of the population it is time we raise our voices over their din.

[snippy]

42. The democratic party needs to make people understand that

Falwell, Dobson, Robertson, and others of their evil ilk are among the most powerful republicans in the country and that anyone who votes republican empowers and supports these people. Every republican vote is vital to the power these Reich wing fundamentalist hate mongers wield.

Moderate republican voters have for years thought of these people as somewhat crazy but essentially harmless and have welcomed their support to become the majority party. Now those moderate republicans need to be made to realize that they have made a mistake in tolerating and condoning the Reich wing fundamentalist hate. The moderate republicans also need to be urged to either retake control of their party or leave it.

[atommom]

49. Great post. I'm afraid that they are beyond feeling shame

(at least in response to any of us). They will take pride in our disapproval. But man, I want these people out of power SO badly I can taste it. They seemed like harmless loons at first, but now that they've tasted power, they are dangerous.



Anyone have any suggestions?

[Mr_Scarecrow]

58. perhaps pressure the DNC

to make a formal response.
Go to http://www.democrats.org/ and contact them.

[NightTrain]

33. NightTrain: FALWELL = Fucking Asshole Loser With Excrement-Lined Lips!

[spanone]

35. Don't qoute the asshole. The lowest form of life.

[Bouncy Ball]

36. Like most people give a shit what Fallwell thinks.

I think Falwell is a homosexual-obsessed (remember Tinky Winky?), stupid ass, gluttonous, arrogant, non-Christian bastard HATER.

[CatholicEdHead]

38. Mainstream, no they do not

He is a crucial cog in keeping the "born-agains" together.

[GreenPartyVoter]

43. "Fall-down-a-well" is such a mean-spirited man

[NashVegas]

44. That's It! Someone Hand Me a Broom

I'm there.

[Hobo]

45. That's......

radical cleric Jerry Falwell to you...


Peace

Hobo

[InvisibleBallots]

47. Yes he did! And you all are taking the bait!

SUCKERS!

[yellowcanine]

48. How Christian of him.

[Debs]

50. This man

Needs a humanity transplant....fast

[jonnyblitz]

51. I like witches! the premise that witches are bad...i don't accept.

dumbass falwell. :puke:

[roguevalley]

52. too bad it isn't true. I would turn him into a toad- ... sorry. he already

is one. he must have the tiniest dick in the world.

[Skidmore]

54. What has to happen to bring these

televangelists down? I think the only way to get them is to be able to prove that they are stealing peoples' money, although their cult followers would believe they are being persecuted. Any ideas?

[dbt]

55. Let's TRY a National Order of Witches!

Imagine a government that functions under the Rede: An it harm none, do what you will.

Betcha hunger would be the first thing eliminated.

:freak:
dbt

[brainshrub]

57. Every Witch I have ever known has been a kind person.

I can't say that of Christians.

Back in the 50's "witch" used to conjur up images of a haggard, green wart-covered hag. These days the popular image of a Witch is a young, sexy 20-something. (Charmed, Sabrina the Teenage Witch)

[Mr_Scarecrow]

59. but that's not a real witch

we need to get a Wiccan on a sitcom. Gay people are much more accepted now (yes, yes, still a long way to go, but still) because they are on sitcoms. If we can get a Wiccan on a sitcom, then they will be accepted into the mainstream.

[brainshrub]

64. I know it's not a "real" witch.

But the frame that Fallwell is trying to envoke isn't going to work because the publics perception of witches isn't what it used to be in the 50s.

I'd love to see a real pagan in a mainstream sitcom.

[Sparkly]

61. Consider joining NOW!!

They're an excellent, activist organization, and you can let them and Falwell know that he's inspired you to become a member.

http://www.now.org/

[thehim]

62. Break out the Burkas (not quite)

We've been converted

This is a tremendous avenue for using framing to demonstrate the fact that Muslims (who fear women's rights more than we do) are slowly winning the "battle of cultures" that many on the right feel that we're in. The point of this battle is to have their culture begin to resemble ours in terms of tolerance and freedom, not the other way around.

It's all about winning the arguments. And turning the tables on idiots like Falwell by using arguments like this is highly effective. They don't hear this stuff, and unfortunately, people who use these arguments are kept far from cable news studios...

[bejammin075]

63. Liberals to NeoCons = Jews to Nazis?

This should be a verbal question on the SAT.

I've recently become much more aware of this country's trend towards embracing fascism, thanks to the neo-cons. They need a scapegoat to blame all of America's woes. Are liberals going to serve that purpose? They already blame liberals for everything now. So after 2012, after Jeb Bush wins his second cheated election on secret republican software, are liberals going to be the ones rounded up for "re-education" camps?

[classof56]

66. Welcome to DU.

Glad to have you with us. IMHO, it's our job to make sure liberals aren't rounded up for "re-education camps" or otherwise disenfranchised, because it won't take until 2012 for that to start happening. We have to keep informed and keep getting the message out to the masses. DU is a good place to do both!

Class of 56

[donsu]

67. abra cadabra, a curse on thee Falwell!

as my cauldron bubbles and steams.

[no name no slogan]

69. Fallwell's just jealous -- he wants to be a commie-lezzo-witch himself

(n/t)

[yardwork]

71. Calling someone a Witch is a compliment, but Jerry doesn't know that

He's so clueless. It's kind of sad, really.

[txaslftist]

72. Wow, talk about conservative...

He wants to take us back to Salem.

[NAO]

75. Are Wiccans entitled to "faith based funds"

If their local covens start up community and social service programs, based on Wiccan teachings, practicing the "old religion", would they then qualify for Bush's "faith based funds"?

Or is the "faith based" think only for SOME faiths? I mean, is the Federal Government making judgment calls that some religions are legitimate and others are not? That would seem to run contrary to the 1st Amendment, no?

[derzocrat]

78. Y'know...

...Falwell is one of those types where I honestly can't wait to hear his next completely off the wall remark. It's always a highlight of the day when some new dumb ass comment is able to take a detour past his brain and straight to the vocal chords. I feel the same way about Rummy's ridiculous statements as well. Keep Rummy as Sec of Def, I want to hear more about the "uknown unknowns."

[NAO]

82. Falwell quote: "blow them all away in the name of the Lord."

That has to be my favorite one. Found a nice Jesus/Falwell contrast on this site:

http://www.whtt.org/whtt.shtml?articles/Mongr.htm

Jesus said (Matthew 5)

Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Falwell said (speaking of Muslims):

I'd rather be killing them over there than fighting them over here.

Jesus said in Matthew 5:

Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.

Jerry Falwell said:

But you've got to kill the terrorists before the killing stops. And I'm for the President to chase them all over the world. If it takes 10 years, blow them all away in the name of the Lord.

The Lord Jesus said:

Ye have heard that it hath been said, An EYE FOR AN EYE, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, do not resist evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Jerry Falwell said:

Well, when they kill my family and blow those towers down...

Jesus Said:

I say unto you, inasmuch as ye have done it (either good or evil) unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. (Our paraphrase of the last half of Matthew, Chapter 25.)

[kimchi]

85. Not yet; but we are working on it.

:evilgrin: My neck of the woods has a food and clothing bank, a fund to help people get back on their feet, a free ordination program requiring community service, and volunteer days for service projects. Our clergy are unpaid and donations and fund raisers rarely cover the cost of the newsletter; much less supplies.

So far the UU church we are under hasn't recieved any faith based money; but several people are working on grants.

We can't even afford to be hopeful until the Bush fascism ends.

[rainbow4321]

88. Repukes are not fond of us UU'ers

At all...our repuke TX treasurer Strayhorn tried to deny one local UU church tax exempt status a few yrs ago--because, in her words, the congregration didn't have "one single belief". She was forced to back down after it made the news and attorneys stepped in.
So I can just imagine the repukes reaction to handing out faith based $$ to UU's and Wiccans.

[NAO]

99. I was married by a UU minister - he agreed to preside over a secular

wedding ceremony. He was totally cool - he agreed to conduct the ceremony with no reference to god or gods.

He let my wife and I pick the passages, and his pick list included writings of Plato and Bertrand Russell.

Anyway, that UU minister went on to do Bruce Springsteen's wedding about a year after he conducted our wedding. It was surreal to show people our wedding photos and then show them the pictures from People Magazine and see the same guy presiding over the ceremonies. It felt like a brush with celebrity...

[kimchi]

100. I can imagine too, and it WILL be sweet to see them freak! n/t

[spooky3]

81. Can you imagine the outrage if he'd called blacks, Jewish people, or

other groups who don't sit back quietly and take it, by a similarly insulting epithet?

[FizzFuzz]

105. Bingo!! n/t

[Albert Cirrus]

83. How about

F.U.C.K?

Falwell's Union of Conservative Kooks

[UCLA Dem]

86. yeah, real mature.

what a Jesus freak. you can sure tell this guy follows the teachings of Jesus Christ to the "T". Wow, I sure wish I could be like him!!

Calling women who advocate for the social, bodily and legal rights of women "witches" is real original. At least if he was going to say something that derogatory, he could have been a little more creative about it. But, what do you expect from a completely psychotic fucktard who goes around worrying about "gay" teletubbies???

Okay--my rant is done now.

[Borgnine]

90. I've been wondering...

...if these right-wing nutjobs hate women and homosexuals so much, just who (or what) do they have sex with?

[Endangered Specie]

95. *OINK!* *MOOO!* *BAAAAH*! *BACOCK!*

get my drift?

[sparky_in_ma]

91. National Order of Witches?

Cat-herding would be easier. One of the nice things about Wicca is the diversity, and acceptance,of differing beliefs.

[donheld]

93. It's statements like this that make Falwell as much a nut

as Fred Phelps.


BTW us males need to start our own NOW. National Organization of Warlocks.

[Megahurtz]

94. This is appalling!

Falwell isn't referring to present age Wiccans here, but he's referring to the scenario of the Middle Ages when witches were burned at the stake.

That's a pretty violent statement coming from a "Christian" who is supposed to be showing a good example. What a fuckup.:freak:

Back in those times some women were called witches because they used herbs for various ailments and administered herbs for abortion. The "church" didn't like this and burned these women at the stake. A lot of the abortion was due to rape, even the fundies of that age believed incest was acceptable because women and children were considered chattel.

Falwell is reminiscent of the church of old when Martin Luther (NOT Martin Luther King Jr.) started the reformation of the church. Martin Luther was against the priests taking money from believers, because the priests made it a requirement in order be able to go to heaven so the church raked in all the money from these desperate unknowing people.

Sounds like the lying Falwell following suit of the old church, money is his God.

And sounds like there needs to be another reformation because the fundies are getting really kooky and outspoken since the new "faith based" movement of the GOP.:crazy:

I think Falwell is also referring to abortion with his statement. He needs to keep his nose out of other people's business. Women are not chattel, and you cannot control another person.

This is why we need to preserve the separation of Church and State because of freaks like him and Robertson, and we need to get the GOP out of office.

:nuke:

[Langley85]

104. "Christian" Falwell

Jerry Falwell can just go on calling himself a Christian as much as he wants to, but his actions and behavior speak louder than what he likes to call himself.

[seventythree]

109. I think he used the term witches because

it rhymes with bitches. Remember that infamous caricature on the cover of one of those neo-con magazines which had Hillary in a witches' outfit? I saved that for a long time -- I think she was riding a missile, rather than a broom. I agree with you -- the statement wasn't about Wiccans.

[earth mom]

96. I am a woman

and am really ticked off over this! Lawyers out there-is there a legal way to kick some ass over this bullshit?!

At this point, I can't even say who in the hell is worse: F-in Falwell, Robertson or Dubya! :mad:

[FizzFuzz]

106. I have an idea--Anyone want to collaborate on a letter to the NYT?

Hell, send it around to LA Times, Wash Post, and any other good ones you can suggest.

Make it a big deal. I saw some superb points made by people here. And maybe one person telling the truth about Fallwell would get ignored, but I wonder what would happen if a LARGE NUMBER of people signed their names, or mailed separately, to the Times??

Who knows, It might get as much attention as the March for Women's Lives, over a million people that barely got any media attention.

Sorry for that moment of cynicism--but seriously, if anyone would be interested in collaborating on a letter/editorial peice to NYT, respond here or PM me.