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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:36 PM
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Mark Dayton spoke against today's vote fraud action. That is it for me.
Dayton is a weak and vulnerable Dem Senator up for re-election in 2006. He is obviously running scared. We should drive him out of the party now and find a better candidate for the Dem primary in 2006. Al Franken has expressed some interest in running. Al should run in 2006, not in 2008.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:37 PM
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1. Wasn't he the guy who shut down his DC office before Xmas...
based on some sort of terrorism threat?
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:39 PM
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3. yes
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:51 PM
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11. Yes, and that was another embarrassment. I cringed when I heard it. N/T
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:38 PM
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2. Drive Dayton out of the Party?
ridiculous!

I am disappointed in his conduct today, but look forward to working towards his reelection. Franken is more of a centrist than Dayton.
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:40 PM
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4. NO to Franken
If Franken is ever the DFL candidate I will support him in now way beyond quietly giving him my vote.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:41 PM
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5. He's an awful speaker.....but we know how he bought that seat...
...it's not like he earned it. I have to say, I don't resent people having money in the least, I do however resent the Senate becoming a career feather in the cap of the rich.
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:48 PM
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9. Dayton is the heir to the Dayton clothing store faction and spent $15
million dollars of his own money in one losing and one winning run for the Senate. He is a notoriously poor speaker and does not represent us well, I'm afraid.

I am tired of supporting weak candidates who do not speak for me and make me proud to be a Democrat. I was not proud of John Kerry's campaign and i will not vote for him again. I now say the same about Mark Dayton.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:42 PM
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6. Me too.
I was just infuriated (not to mention horribly disappointed) that Dayton not only refused to challenge the Ohio electoral votes along with Boxer, he actually criticized her. If he had decided to be a wuss, why didn't he just shut up and hide with the other spineless Dem senators, instead of basically siding with the Republicans?? The irony might be that he did what he did because he's known to be a Repub target when he's up for reelection in '06, and he thought he could appease them somewhow. Damn fool, you can't appease them, they just keep beating on you. I think he hurt himself worse by dissing Boxer -- he sure won't get a damn nickel from me now. Franken in '06? Why not?
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:27 AM
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24. Can you imagine
a repuke Senator speaking out against an electoral vote challenge made by a fellow repuke? Would never happen. All of them would be lined up speaking in total support of the challenge, railing against the "fraud" - that's what it would be called - "fraud." They wouldn't mince words and they wouldn't be talking about "inconvenience" either or assuring the Dems that they really did recognize the legitimacy of the election.

The Dems just don't get that they are in a game where there are no rules, the bullies and cheaters are in control, and they are getting their asses whipped.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:45 PM
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7. Dayton's reasoning was disingenuous and transparent.
He actually suggested that to exercise the constitutional procedure for a contested presidential election would threaten the very fabric of our democracy. He was George's bitch. After listening to Dayton's crap, I have to think that the Bushistas have something on him.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:47 PM
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8. That's the only explanation that makes sense to me
Dayton has been strong on many issues, which is what makes his caving in here so disappointing and incomprehensible.
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:49 PM
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10. He is running scared and that is fatal. N/T
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:17 AM
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22. I don't know if they have something on him or threatened him another way
Perhaps visions of small planes were dancing in his head.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:53 PM
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12. let's run everyone out of the party
even fairly liberal Democrats. That's a great idea.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:01 PM
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14. Nobody's talking about running him out of the party.
But maybe we should vote for somebody else next time. What's wrong with criticizing a weak, spineless Senator who pays lip service to liberal values but when push comes to shove, totally caves in?
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:04 PM
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16. this is the quote from the original post
Dayton is a weak and vulnerable Dem Senator up for re-election in 2006. He is obviously running scared. We should drive him out of the party now and find a better candidate for the Dem primary in 2006. Al Franken has expressed some interest in running. Al should run in 2006, not in 2008.


The words drive him out of the party were used.
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:05 PM
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17. Right. On edit, he can stay in the Party, just not as a Senator. N/T
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:04 PM
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15. I don't care if their liberal, conservative, or moderate. I care whether
or not they have principles and courage. Dayton had a lot more courage when he was 6 years away from re-election, than he has today.

Let's not reward "loyalty" over all other traits -- that is Bush's policy, not ours.

This Party needs better candidates. For example, maybe California should have thrown Gray Davis overboard before the electorate did. Maybe New York could have a Democratic Governor if we had some good candidates.

Dayton's main asset was money. We don't need monyed candidates anymore, the grass roots has shown we will fund candidates when we are so motivated. I am not motivated to support Mark Dayton one more day.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:55 PM
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13. And don't forget, he voted YES on the Lacy Peterson's bill
which, for the RWers, was just one more brick removed from the wall protecting women's reproductive rights.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:09 PM
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18. is he the democratic senator who talks like he's retarded?
if so, a fur ball has more brains.

you know, its awful hard to support democrats with guys like dayton leading the charge.
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:40 PM
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19. Yes, that's the one. And I might add, as a life long Minnesota resident,
that Mark Dayton is a far cry from the lions of the Senate we used to send there. Fur ball is about right.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:46 PM
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20. Barbara Boxer is the only Dem
who had brass ones today. The rest chose to not jump into the water to rescue their friend, but to just throw him the styrofoam donut! They're all losers now.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:49 PM
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21. Who is this guy?
I can't believe what I'm seeing on C-SPAN from Sen. Dayton. Why is he even saying this stuff?

I don't think Franken is going to run in 2006, because I believe he just signed a contract at Air America for a couple of years.

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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:05 AM
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23. Right after the election I got a call from Dayton asking for $$$
I'm in NM...He's already out for money.

I'm glad I didn't give him anything. They have my name because I contributed to Wellstone and Mondale, unfortunately.
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