"Dems Ask McAuliffe to Remain Party Chair"--What do you think about this?

[GreenPartyVoter]

"WASHINGTON (AP) - Senior Democrats are trying to persuade national Chairman Terry McAuliffe to continue his service as party chairman, especially if none of the current candidates gains momentum in the race to replace him.

About a half-dozen candidates are in the race and a couple of others are considering a run for the position. It will be filled in February at the Democratic National Committee's winter meetings.

McAuliffe met privately Wednesday with several Democratic senators on Capitol Hill, and was asked again to consider serving for another year or two, Democrats say. McAuliffe's response was not immediately known, but he has been cool to such overtures in the past.

Democratic senators reportedly at the meeting included Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada and Charles Schumer of New York."

http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20050106/D87EG10O7.html

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[trotsky]

1. I promise to leave the Democratic Party if it happens.

The man has presided over 3 straight election-year setbacks. And we're not getting anything from him other than "Stay the course". If anything, he keeps calling for more movement to the right. Fuck him.

[mstrsplinter326]

6. Couldn't have said it better myself. NT

[Kitsune]

35. A-freaking-men. *nt*

[Wabbajack]

50. It's not his fault

the pukes stole elections.

[Crunchy Frog]

59. It's our party's fault for letting them get away with it.

Why not retaliate by stealing a few of our own? Why not at least call the pukes out on it and hold them accountable.

Our party can't control what others do, only what it does, and what it has done is pathetic.

[Goldeneye]

2. .

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :wtf: :eyes: :( :puke: :puke: :puke: :mad: :wtf: :wow: :grr: :argh: :crazy: :think: :wtf: :argh: :shrug: :shrug: :thumbsdown: :scared: :spank: :wow: :grr: :wtf: :crazy: :eyes: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :wtf: :argh: :wtf: :crazy:

[CWebster]

3. Democrats will continue to lose

is what it means.

[still_one]

4. They should choose Howard Dean

We will see what the democrats in congress do, but I believe they will act as they did in the first four years of *s reign

If that is the case the democratic party exists in name only

[mstrsplinter326]

8. I'm not even much of a Dean fan...

And I would vote enthusiastically for him for chair if I had that vote.

[blondeatlast]

11. Agreed, my number one choice as well.

I worked for his defeat in the primes, but DNC is what he's made for.

[mstrsplinter326]

12. who'd you work for?

Just for reference.

[blondeatlast]

26. Kerry; I thought he was a better prez candidate.

I think Dean's an excellent administrator though.

I didn't like the fact that in order to run for prez, Dean reversed his positions on abortion and such. I must say my opinion of him has improved considerably since the primaries ended though.

He was one of the best surrogates we had by far.

[janx]

31. "...in order to run for prez., Dean reversed his positions on

abortion" ?

:shrug:

Can you elaborate? Where did you hear this?

[CWebster]

32. Confused Dean with Kucinich? nt

[BlueEyedSon]

5. That would be a problem. nt

[buddysmellgood]

7. Momentum? Howard has momentum and it will roll right over them.

[Tacos al Carbon]

39. Where, oh where, have I heard this before?

eom

[blondeatlast]

9. No more money and time to the Dems. I'm a 3rd gen Dem, and

will always be a Dem, but in name only.

I will support candidates on a person by person basis.

[enough already]

10. Makes perfect sense

If we want to continue losing national elections.

[fishwax]

21. Exactly

we have so much to show for his tenure thus far :grr:

[Lerkfish]

13. he's the DLC darling? otherwise can't figure it...

why back a habitual loser?
If we'd fought the good fight efficiently, and then lost, ok. But the fact is, the campaigns have been run like the keystone cops at a fire drill. No reason to reward apparent incompetence.

[itzamirakul]

14. I am thoroughly disgusted with

this turn of affairs and I am going to write to Schumer tomorrow (after the flood of emails re: today's voting fraud debacle calms down) to let him know exactly how I feel about McAuliffe. I don't really like Schumer anyway, but no Democrat challenged him this year, so being a good party member, I voted for him - UGH!

IMO, McAuliffe is a rotten POS.

[Q]

15. Who are these 'senior Democrats' and why not publish their names?

What we're seeing is the party bosses arguing behind the scenes about whether to keep the DLC in power or run the risk of having a more progressive Dem end up as chair.

McAuliffe is a 'darling' of Clinton. Need we say more?

[lojasmo]

16. Fuck McAullife, and Reid too. N/T

[robbedvoter]

17. Daym! I thought it was a Nagourney piece. Seems his style is spreading

Pick some a*hole like say Zell/Koch - call them "senior democrats" - and advance the RW talking point in their name..... (previous attempts: labor Unions love Bush, Democrats happy Gore was not in charge of 911, etc.)

[fishwax]

18. Heavens, no!

Like I told the good phone workers for the dnc who called me asking for donations: "i'm not giving money to mcauliffe's dnc. I'll vote for democrats, I'll work for democrats, I'll send what money I can to local, national, and even out-of-state democrats when it looks like I can be useful, but as long as he's the chair and until he shows me otherwise, he doesn't deserve my hard-earned cash.

[buddhamama]

19. no!

no more McAuliffe.

[GOPBasher]

20. Yes! He's been so successful so far! Let's keep losing! WooHoo!!!

[Danmel]

22. They are hopeless

They do not LEARN. They REFUSE to learn. When will they get angry? When will they stop "playing nice" and being "gentlemen"?

As Fearless Leader says: "Fool me once, shame on me, Fool me twice, won't get fooled again!"

[CWebster]

23. Because

they are complicit?

[GOPBasher]

24. Yeah, there's an old saying in Tennessee...

I mean, I know it's in Texas, PROBABLY in Tennessee! It says, 'Fool me once, uhhh .. shame, shame on a, shame on you. Fool me twice, ummm uhhhh, hmm uhh.... you just can't get fooled again!

[GreenPartyVoter]

25. *siiiiigh* I still cannot fathom how people think this is a GOOD thing in

a world leader.

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[rogue emissary]

27. Why?

Can someone give me an answer on why they would want him? I know the party isn't in debt, and has some great mailing list to contact members. It just seems likes he's at best a good party treasurer, not chair.

[GreenPartyVoter]

28. Beats me.

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[leesa]

29. They want the GOP to remain in power.

[GreenPartyVoter]

30. You would think so...

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[jswordy]

33. THE OLD LINE POLS WILL DO ANYTHING...

to keep the status quo! Change is bad? Well, the status quo is making us IRRELEVANT!

McAuliffe again, or a "go right guy" like Roemer, will mean bye-bye for me to the Dems.

My own hypothesis is, they have a handpicked guy they are holding in the wings who will emerge later and take the prize.

(Geez, that sounds a lot like Kerry in the primaries! Heheheheh!)

[Mountainman]

34. I want the party to turn sharply left. I want a new progressive movement

in this country.

We know we can't win by being Republican light. We learned that in 2002 and now in 2004. I don't want two parties competing for the middle-right vote.

I want a progressive movement put in place like the conservatives did with Reagan. I want us to build it from now until we can win with it.

I will not support a party that is center right.

[IrateCitizen]

45. You're already supporting a party that is center-right

If you voted Democratic in 1992-2004, especially for President, you were supporting a party that is center-right. It only appears that they are anywhere close to left because they are contrasted with the reactionary-right Republicans.

We have no center party in this country anymore, and we NEVER had a left party -- at least not one that succeeded on the national stage.

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

36. Compared to some of the other possibilities...

he's the best of a bad lot.

I'm not talking about Howard Dean, of course, but the Even Bayh's and the Tim Roemer's from the state where Democrats are shot on sight.

As much as I believe Dean deserves to be DNC Chair, I think he can be more effective as an independent, progressive voice through Democracy for America. I wouldn't be terribly disappointed if he didn't get the job.

A huge-huge-HUGE thing to remember is that the Democratic Party used to be about the grassroots, and we've gotten away from that. The person who holds the title of DNC Chair can do little to effect the troops on the ground. That much is up to us and to our local party organizations.

[robbedvoter]

37. reminder: it's the AP reporting, ANONYMOUS democrats

Again, they may be Ed Koch and Zell Miller.

[eSTIV]

38. I tell you what...

Between this story and the fact that only one senator (thanks ms. boxer) would stand up to Karl Rove.......

I guess I need to decide if this party is truly representing my views.

I'm very, very disappointed in my party.

[TOOLZ]

40. Put Him Out To the Pundit Pasture

[WI_DEM]

41. It sucks--what has Terry McA done for the party?

except lead it to one electoral defeat after another.

[Lorien]

42. What do I think about it?

I'm no longer a Democrat if they choose to continue on the losing path.

[David Ippolito]

43. I'm not a Democrat...

..so maybe I shouldn't say.

But, it's always been my feeling that McAuliffe is simply bad at what he does. He reeks of blind partisanship and spin. (As do most political operatives.) But, he's in the foremost position that demands likeablility, straightforwardness and persuasiveness. He doesn't have any of those qualities.

[Justitia]

62. thank you for an honest and polite opinion. -eom

[IrateCitizen]

44. Actually, I don't find it all that surprising

I've given up on the national Democratic Party. They've proven beyond a shred of doubt that they are interested primarily in being a big-business party, a status-quo party -- just one that operates a tad less ruthlessly toward the "common folk" as the Republicans do.

The DNC has the opportunity to really shake things up and change course by embracing someone like Howard Dean as party chair. But they won't do that, precisely because the LAST thing they really want is to shake things up or change course.

I've given up on nearly the whole lot of them. Of course, there are still several Democratic elected officials who still recognize the importance of standing up for what they believe and representing people over big business, but they're all resigned to permanent backbencher status. The people calling the shots have no interest in change or reform -- they only care about entrenching their own position for personal power and fame.

Getting Terry "I never met a corporate contributor I didn't bow before" McAuliffe to stay on would be a clear signal of their intention to remain on this course.

[NashVegas]

46. I Think Someones Are Scared Shitless of the Coming Schism

That's going to happen if they dare appoint a DLCer or Roemer. Or Dean.

[sarahlee]

47. 50 ways to leave your lover?

They must be trying every way possible to kill the party.

[The Gigmeister]

48. NO NO NO NO NO!!! WHAT HAS THIS GUY EVER WON???

I couldn't care less about idealogy...As a matter of fact, I don't even know where Terry stands on the issues (Unlike other current candidates)...I CARE ABOUT WINNING!!!

FUCK THIS LOSER!

[CWebster]

51. He is supposed to excel at raising Corporate cash

Does that tell you anything about where the party Democrats see their bread buttered? Dean proved that corporate cash wasn't necessary - if the voters felt they had something worth donating $ to. And there is the catch--you can't serve two masters if their interests collide--thus it was necessary to insure the Dean option wasn't a choice.

What Democrat with Republican-lit policies is going to inspire a populous campaign?

[IndianaGreen]

58. Perhaps Terry should become RNC Chair

after all, they all grovel to the same corporations.

[Geek_Girl]

49. I will not contribute to the DNC unless

a competent chair is chosen. Terry Mcaulife is not going to do it. I hope Dean runs, we would be a perfect DNC chair.

[NoPasaran]

52. Snowball's chance in Hell of it happening

I won't let it raise my blood pressure any.

[ernstbass]

53. It sucks

[Yupster]

54. This is like the corporations

that lose $ 200 million dollars and then award the CEO with a $ 50 million bonus.

[MadHound]

55. Sounds to me like I'd better print up some more forms to register people

As Greens. Seriously, is the Democratic party that stupid? Every move they've made since before the election seems calculated to drive people out of the party.

[Lost4words]

56. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! n/t

[Crunchy Frog]

57. What I think of it.

If it happens, I'll be joining you as a Green party voter. I will see it as an absolute committment on the part of the Democratic party to avoid any change in strategy or approach, and therefore to continue losing.

[faithfulcitizen]

60. ...

:puke:

[librechik]

61. who cares? I think I'm about done with these professional politicians

after watching their smug, undemocratic performance today.

[w4rma]

63. Repugs think Dean is crazy but they HATE McAuliffe. Which is better to

pick? The guy that they HATE? Or the guy they think is quirky and crazy and that they mearly dislike.

[jswordy]

66. Why would they hate Terry?

After all, in his 2 terms, he has handed them seats on the national and state levels to an unprecedented degree. Hell, they ought to give him a medal!

I mean, it takes real talent to outraise your opposition and then squander those funds on a losing effort that ultimately removes your party from national power in both branches. And that on top of having lost seats nationally and in the states in every single previous election of your terms. Guess he wanted to go out with a bang.

Hmmm...think McAuliffe could be a MOLE?

[napi21]

64. I thought he should have been fired after 2000.

Surely they don't want him again! I heard several pundits say that nobody wants the job. That was supposed to be the reason Terry continued after the 2000 election. Maybe it's still the case.

[msgadget]

65. Oh, this decision is too hard! Terry, why don't you just stay?

Put the names in a friggin' hat already!

[Catfight]

67. Carol Mosely Brown is the right person to lead Democrats. She has

class, she has spirit and she has a true conviction. Unlike another white a$$hole male that thinks he knows what Americans want. McAuliffe is a putz, he needs to go.

[sea dee]

68. McAuliffe is better than Dean in my book

I perfer McAuliffe to Dean