Official Thread for KUCINICH supporters and well-wishers ONLY

[Skinner]

This is the official thread for Kucinich supporters and well-wishers to discuss Kuninich's Iowa performance, free of disruption.

If you are not a Kucinich supporter or a well-wisher, please do not post in this thread. The purpose of this thread is for disruption-free discussion among Kucinich supporters. Any negative posts by opponents will be delted by the moderators. We will open up separate threads where supporters of the other candidates can interact without disruption from opponents.

[Valjean]

1. I hope

I really home that Kucinich stays in for a while. He has a lot of winning issues. Foremost, he is 100% against WTO and NAFTA. He wants to withdraw from these job destroyers ASAP. These treaties are a threat to national security.

When another candidate throws in on this subject, Dennis will have done his job.

I think everyone has to remember that most people who run for president will never get there. However, they can put a stamp on the platform and force the front-runners to adopt their stronger positions.

From this perspective we should be grateful to ALL the democratic contenders even though only ONE will get the nomination.

Keep smokin Dennis. Better luck in New Hampshire.

[KoKo]

2. Thanks for doing this Skinner. Kucinich was my 2nd. I'm proud that he

is standing up for us. I won't feel badly about Iowa. We knew he wouldn't come out number one. But, he's made a tremendous difference in giving a voice to those of us who walked the streets with signs against this Invasion of Iraq. I'm proud that he stood up against Bush and proud that he has put together an exit for Iraq, an excellent proposal for Health Care and corporate reform.

I think all of his supporters should be proud that he had the guts and courage to do this. All those debates and all that work will make a difference somewhere down the road.

On Edit: I am Dean/Kuchinich .....and support them both as I couldn't make my mind up. Hope I'm okay posting on this.

[Darranar]

3. He did pretty well, IMO...

I hope he stays in the race, and keeps on advocating change for the better in our country and world!

[Astarho]

4. I had hoped

he would have done better, but he's far from out yet.

[youngred]

5. he did pretty well

I'm beginning to think his idea is to get enough delegates at the convention that he can effect the platform and decisions, not necessarily the Presidency itself.

I'm so happy he's done well tonight

[youngred]

6. he did pretty well

I'm beginning to think his idea is to get enough delegates at the convention that he can effect the platform and decisions, not necessarily the Presidency itself.

I'm so happy he's done well tonight

[goodhue]

7. watch the web cast

http://www.kucinich.us/seabiscuit_webcast.php

bluegrass now
dennis to come

[no name no slogan]

34. Cool webcast-- just saw "Kucinich eats his spinach" and a few MNers

on the webcast! I played on the first public performance of that song in Minneapolis last October. Glad to see it's gotten some playability on the webcast!

IMHO, the fact that Dennis got ANY delegates out of this caucus is cause for celebration. He DEFINATELY had an impact on Edwards' second-place finish, and will continue to have an impact on the race as it goes forward.

Onward!!!

[laruemtt]

8. in a perfect world

his amazing qualities would be appreciated. It's america's loss that we are not there yet. love ya, kuch

[mdmc]

9. go go Dennis

We want Kucinich!

[mdmc]

68. if not him? who! if not now, when!

go go Dennis!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

10. Interesting results from the MSNBC exit poll

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3762614

Dennis did equally well among men and women but best in the under-29 age group, not well with seniors, equally well with people whose incomes are above or below $50,000. slightly better with people who have college degrees, better with independents than with Democrats. His supporters were also proportionately more likely to use the Internet as their prime source of information than supporters of other candidates.

[rucky]

60. The High % of Independent Voters suggests he could do well in NH

:shrug:

[David Zephyr]

11. Kucinich is the Heart of the Party Now.

And I hope he just stays in and won't go away.

His message and presence keeps the rest of them honest and to the Left.

I admire all of you Kucinich supporters.

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

[Wetzelbill]

74. Thanks David, I always value your posts

[Scottie72]

12. Here's to Dennis!

Here is to Dennis! While following his campaign I finally feel like there is some hope in this country. I want him to stay in the race. I want my voice heard.

[Lefty48197]

13. Dennis reminds me of Will Rogers

I love 'em both. Thanks for everything Dennis.

[funky_bug]

14. Your passion is an inspiration

I watched the CSPAN coverage, and I was so inspired by the Kucinich supporter that got some airtime. He refused to give up his vote. I don't know if the IA caucus is a fair indicator of how the people of IA feel, collectively. The fact that other candidates had to court votes by promising delegates seemed very undemocratic.

Again, if this guy is any indication of the dedication and support of all Kucinich supporters, then my hat is off to you all. He not only kept his vote for Kucinich, but he cast a vote for democracy!

[mvd]

15. Kucinich didn't do too badly, really

He did a little better than the polls said in the precinct I saw on TV. I was watching C-SPAN, and there are definitely very committed supporters making me proud. I'm clearly ABB, but until Kucinich drops out, I'll do what I can for him.

[sistersofmercy]

16. I just love Dennis!

:toast:

[terryg11]

17. went to my caucus tonight supporting Kucinich

like I posted in my report thread, there were only 4 of us supporting the K man out of 71 and we tried to get some more but no one took us up. I reaallly believe in what Dennis says and hope he keeps on fighting.

[Nadienne]

78. My precinct had an unbelievable

113 caucus-goers. We needed 17 to be viable. We had 8. Better than the national polls were saying, right? It was the same amount as Edwards' group; I'm not sure how many Gephart had. At least 3. By the time I weaved my way through the crowd to where they were, they were already gone.

We tried to form an Uncommitted group, but by that time Edwards' numbers had shrunk. I feel so bad; I feel as though I let my people down, and Edwards' people down. And everyone was so impatient to just get this over with. In the end, it was a choice between Kerry and Dean.

[goodhue]

18. the first step

dennis on webcast now
http://www.kucinich.us/seabiscuit_webcast.php

[Hoppin_Mad]

19. I love DK and just donated to the campaign ! -nt-

[LWolf]

28. Thank you!

All donations are welcome.

I'm watching the webcast where he gave his supporters a pep talk; his crowd loves him, too.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

20. Hope he stays in there for as long as he can!

This race wouldn't be the same without him, and he's a great man. I truly believe this race has been changed because of him and his progressive ideals.

[brokensymmetry]

21. Dennis Kucinich is a man of vision.

I like and respect him - and, I suspect that in ten years, perhaps less, we'll know just how right he is. Everything I've seen of him makes me think he would be a truly great President.

[LWolf]

22. Love the webcast

I just checked in; I don't even know if he got a single delegate; but he sounds positive, warm, and the love is definitely there.

Anybody want to catch a late-comer up?

[goodhue]

24. yes

webcast was great
sad that even c-span stayed away

[LWolf]

25. Hey!

They don't sound too discouraged in Iowa...

Love the music.

I'm a matriot, clear as can be
Don't you dare name a missile after me

We all have a dream

[Lydia Leftcoast]

27. According to the webscast

he won one to three delegates in scattered precincts.

I wonder how many other precincts there were where he had 5%-10%, a noticeable number, but not quite enough for delegates.

[dweller]

40. 1.2 delegate(s)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=141815

dp

[LWolf]

42. Well, 1.2

is better than none! And the field is already narrowing.

Who will be next?

[Freddie Stubbs]

53. Gephardt will be next

Iowa was a must win for him, and a distance 4th just isn't going to cut it. His campaign is pretty much out of money, this is going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

[0rganism]

23. Kucinich is the real thing, and someday America will be ready for him

I Hope it's long before he goes the way of Paul Wellstone.

[Terwilliger]

41. someday, eh?

so, can I have my skepticism too?

[DemBones DemBones]

26. Dennis WILL stay in the race through the convention.

He has said that the money he has is enough for him to do this. So don't be discouraged.

If he doesn't get the presidential nomination, Dennis will have delegates to barter with at the convention and can use them to affect the platform and help determine the best nominee. I'm not saying he can't win, just reminding everyone that he's always been a long shot and a dark horse, but can still change the party.

Dennis will keep the others from drifting too far right during primary season.

Eventually, the media will find it very difficult, if not impossible to ignore Dennis. And we know how much people like his message when they hear it.

Dennis has the opportunity to pick up the union endorsements that were Dick Gephardt's now that Gep has decided to drop out. That can mean a big boost, and he's smart enough to know that rank and file wants to help choose the candidate their union endorses.

John Edwards referred to Dennis as "a friend" and "a good man" who, like him, has a "message of hope and optimism" in his live appearance on CNN tonight. VERY good publicity for Dennis!

Dennis is running a national campaign, as is Edwards. Both come from poverty, both are strong on unions and believe in helping the poor and the middle class rather than the rich and the corporations. Perhaps they'll end up as running mates.

Anything is still possible. This is the beginning.

(Cue up "Age of Aquarius"!!!) :7 :7 :7

THE DARK HORSE COMETH DENNIS KUCINICH 2004

[LWolf]

29. The Dark Horse Cometh

So he does.

I really enjoyed watching the process they go through at a caucus; never having done it, I was fascinated.

[Name removed]

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[no name no slogan]

32. Um, dude, please see the title of this thread (n/t)

[GreenArrow]

33. He's being true to who he is

if that means he loses, then at least he'll do it with honor and honesty. I'm so sick of the usual phoneys.

[Danieljay]

38. Kucinich stands for Integrity

and high consciousness. Please don't confuse "New Age" with a new consciousness. Additionallly, You obviously don't understand Yoga either. Perhaps if you understood these differences, you'd understand Dennis and those who support him. The country might not be ready for Dennis Kucinich and what he stands for, but the world is, and will be transformed with or without him, its only a matter of time. Take a yoga class, you might like it and expand your own consciousness at the same time! Go Kucinich..you rock!

[Desertrose]

49. cryofan...why must your persist in this ?

I really resent your continual tearing down of his campaign staff...you don't have a clue in more ways than one and if you have a problem with him & his as you call them "new agey" beliefs, why don't you pick another candidate?

You are talking about things you have no knowledge of. ....you should at least get a clue before you judge & condemn...... remember...George Harrison & John Lennon did fine despite (or maybe because of) their connection to a yogi.....
:evilgrin:

What in the world are you talking about when you say he flubbed "his end of the unwritten supporter-candidate contract" I think the issues here are yours, not DK's.

I never had to defend Dennis & staff to a "supposed supporter"...how interesting....


Peace
DR

[goodhue]

31. This Will Go to Convention

Kucinich: This Will Go to Convention

For Immediate Release: Jan. 19, 2004

Democratic Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich had been showing at 3 percent in the polls in Iowa, but topped 15 percent or more in many precincts in order to win 1.2 percent of the total delegates. Had he failed to top a surprising 15 percent, Kucinich would have finished with zero delegates as expected. The polls did little better at predicting the results for the other candidates in the Iowa caucuses, and tonight's results may have raised more questions than they answered about the final outcome of the Democratic nominating process.

"This is the beginning of the campaign," said Kucinich. "We've got 49 states left to go. The media had long ago predicted the winner of the entire process and even the loser of the general election, and tonight's caucuses have the pundits scratching their collective scalps in bewilderment. I moved from ninth place to fifth and won delegates despite the 15 percent threshold.

"The longtime poll leader dropped to third, which some pundits are erroneously crediting to Dr. Dean's status as an anti-war candidate. Dr. Dean did not consistently oppose the initial stages of this war and he has said that he will keep our troops in Iraq for years.

"As I climb higher in New Hampshire and each successive state, and as the situation in Iraq continues to worsen, Democratic support for peace will be reflected in my campaign's success. I predict a brokered convention in July. By the end of this month my campaign will have raised over $10 million, including matching funds, and I'm just getting started.

"As part of my strategy in the Iowa caucuses, I worked out an arrangement with Senator Edwards that may have allowed each of us to pick up a few more delegates. Our supporters, of course, ultimately chose their own courses of action. But none were left with their only strategic choice being leaving their caucus and going home. John and I are friends and I wish him the best. But we have 49 states left to go, and we're each on our own."

[curse10]

35. I'm so glad DK isn't dropping out

His voice is an important one in this primary and the more people hear it the better. I think DK is a great man and a great candidate. And his supporters are the best around! :grouphug:

[corporatewhore]

36. Kucinich WILL take Texas

Ill make sure of it!!!

[Nadienne]

79. How can I help?

Volunteering seems to be in my blood now...

[ByRillYAN]

85. Of coarse he will!

With suporters like he gathers, thers no way that, by the time of the primary here, he isn't at the top of the candidates.
I know that all my voting friends WILL be voting DK in the primary. I'm making sure of that!:evilgrin:

[hlthe2b]

37. I really like Dennis K.

We need his voice and I am thankful for the impact he will have on the process. I think his presence in the race can be extemely beneficial in pulling the Dems away from the center. While I would be less than honest if I said I thought he could win the nomination, I'd gladly be proven wrong. In the meantime, I appreciate what he brings to the race and his continuing efforts in the House. Best wishes, Dennis K supporters. He's a very good man.

[Dover]

39. NYT - Kucinich/Edwards agreement, quotes

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/19/politics/campaigns/18CND-CAUC.html

...Further complicating efforts to predict the outcome, Representative Dennis Kucinich of Ohio said today that he and Mr. Edwards had reached an agreement specifying that if neither reaches the 15 percent viability threshold for delegates in any precinct, the supporters of both in that precinct would unite behind the candidate with greater support.

"John and I are friends," said Mr. Kucinich, who has polled well behind the pack of frontrunners. "He and I have complementary constituencies. I'm going to do well in college towns and urban areas. He is going to do well in rural areas. Rather than leave it up to chance, we're letting our supporters know to support the other guy."

Mr. Edwards told CNN: "Both of us believe in a lot of the same things, and we like each other very much. But both of us also recognize at the end of the day, caucus-goers will have to make their own decisions about this."

[Wetzelbill]

73. Any friend of Dk's is ok in my book, Edwards has always been my # 2 choice

Kucinich and Edwards are two top notch people in my book.

[hedgetrimmer]

43. the man... the moment ... absolutely brilliant!

go dennis!

the big KOOOOOOCH!!!!!

[kimchi]

44. Great job, DK!

Glad to see a better showing than most people expected. He IS electable!

[snoochie]

45. Can't say I didn't hope for more

But I'm happy to see anything but a big fat zero!

I think that his support will keep growing, just as he's done from the start. This is only the beginning! :D

[Desertrose]

46. Dennis beat the predictions, didn't he?

I say wahooo!!!


Things are just getting started!

I see only greater gains for Dennis Kucinich!!
This will be interesting!!

:loveya: Dennis :yourock:

Peace & hope

DR

:toast: :party:

[Zomby Woof]

47. You missed the Happy Dance!

But glad you got a real-time report. ;-)

:loveya: :hug:

ZombySon

(You should have seen me rubbing my eyes this morning when I picked up the newspaper from the front step - I thought, "Is that Judy??" LOL)

[Desertrose]

51. takes a good pic, don't she?

So I want to see the "Happy Dance" in person sometime...I feel there will many more opportunities to dance the dance!!!


I'll fill ya in on Farmington sometime.....it was pretty cool!!
Gotta get my film developed.....


:loveya: :hug:
D Mom

[Terwilliger]

48. I can only wish and hope so much

before it becomes sheer self-torture

[bluestateguy]

50. Any coverage of Kucinich tonight?

n/t

[tedzbear]

52. Kucinich represents my political views the best of all...

...but so far I've neglected him because I figure he doesn't have a chance. But now that an establishment man has won the Iowa caucus, I regret my choices up to now: Dean and Clark.
I just read a commentary at The Progressive Magazine where it rips Michael Moore and President Carter to shreds for supporting Clark. I must say the magazine does make a convincing argument, and now at this late hour I regret my $ contributions to Clark. Just because Madonna and Moore think Clark is the man to beat Bush is no reason to compromise my political beliefs.
As Clark and Dean pull to the right to garner more undecided votes, Kucinich stands firm with his platform.
I hope it's not too little too late, but tonight I made a nice contribution to Kucinich.

Kucinich is definitely not a Repug in Democrat clothing like Kerry. I like that in a candidate.

[snoochie]

55. Thanks for your contribution!

Glad to hear you've decided to go with your heart for the duration of the primaries. Thanks so much for your generosity. :)

No need to disparage other candidates, though. At least not on this thread.

No regrets - be positive, and focus on the future and all the possibilities it holds! :D

[genius]

54. Because of the minimum, we'll never know how well he did.

He could have had 14.9% statewide, over three points higher than Gephardt. The deal between Dennis and Edwards was a win-win deal that made all the supporters of both candidates winners.

[cryofan]

56. As you can see from the MSNBC exit poll, DK got 4% statewide

As you can see DK got 4% and his best categories were the independents and the ones who use the internet for news.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3762614


To which age group do you belong? • Back to Top

Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
17-29 17 2 25 20 7 35 7 1 1 3
30-44 15 1 24 27 13 26 4 0 0 4
45-64 41 1 21 30 8 34 4 0 0 2
65 or over 27 1 15 23 17 43 1 0 0 1

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Age 65 & over • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
17-64 73 1 23 27 9 32 5 0 0 3
65 or over 27 1 15 23 17 43 1 0 0 1

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2003 total family income: • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
Under $50,000 53 1 21 24 13 35 4 0 0 2
$50,000 or more 47 1 20 29 8 35 4 0 0 2

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Which best describes your education: • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
No college degree 45 1 16 25 16 38 3 0 0 1
College degree 30 1 23 28 8 31 5 1 0 3
Postgraduate study 25 1 26 24 6 36 4 0 0 2

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College Education • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
No college degree 45 1 16 25 16 38 3 0 0 1
College graduate 55 1 24 26 7 33 4 0 0 3

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Do you or does someone else in your household belong to a labor union? • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
Yes 23 1 19 22 22 29 4 0 0 3
No 77 1 21 27 8 37 4 0 0 2

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No matter who you are supporting today, do you usually think of yourself as a: • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
Strong Democrat 64 1 22 24 14 35 3 0 0 2
Not strong Democrat 15 1 14 33 5 41 3 1 0 3
Independent 19 1 21 25 6 34 8 1 0 3
Republican 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

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No matter who you are supporting today, do you usually think of yourself as a: • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
Democrat 79 1 20 26 12 36 3 0 0 2
Independent 19 1 21 25 6 34 8 1 0 3
Republican 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

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On most political matters, do you consider yourself: • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
Very liberal 17 2 32 19 6 28 11 0 0 2
Somewhat liberal 39 1 21 28 10 35 3 0 0 2
Moderate 37 1 17 27 14 37 1 1 0 2
Conservative 6 1 10 25 14 43 2 3 0 3

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On most political matters, do you consider yourself: • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
Liberal 57 1 24 25 9 33 6 0 0 2
Moderate 37 1 17 27 14 37 1 1 0 2
Conservative 6 1 10 25 14 43 2 3 0 3

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Before tonight, had you ever attended an Iowa Democratic presidential caucus? • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
Yes 45 1 19 28 11 35 3 0 0 2
No 55 1 22 24 11 36 4 0 0 3

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How much did you use the Internet to get news and information about tonight's candidates? • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
A great deal 17 3 25 18 9 31 10 1 0 3
Somewhat 23 0 24 24 10 35 4 0 0 2
Not much 18 1 23 28 6 36 3 0 0 3
Not at all 41 0 16 29 15 36 1 0 0 2

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How much did you use the Internet to get news and information about tonight's candidates • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
A great deal/somewhat 40 2 24 22 10 33 7 0 0 2
Not much/Not at all 60 1 18 28 12 36 2 0 0 2

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When did you finally decide for whom to vote in tonight's caucus? • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
In the last three days 21 1 18 32 6 37 3 1 0 2
In the last week 21 1 11 38 6 41 3 0 0 0
In the last month 27 1 18 28 10 39 3 0 0 1
Before that 30 1 32 12 20 28 6 0 0 1

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When did you finally decide whom to support in tonight's caucus? • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
Last 3 days/Last week 41 1 14 35 6 39 3 0 0 1
Last month/Before that 56 1 26 19 15 33 5 0 0 1

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Do you approve or disapprove of the United States' decision to go to war with Iraq last year? • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
Strongly approve 7 3 8 21 24 40 0 1 0 2
Somewhat approve 17 1 10 33 14 39 1 1 0 2
Somewhat disapprove 25 1 14 33 14 34 1 0 0 4
Strongly disapprove 50 1 29 20 7 34 7 0 0 2

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How do you feel about the U.S. decision to go to war with Iraq last year? • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
Approve 24 1 10 30 17 39 1 1 0 2
Disapprove 75 1 24 24 9 34 5 0 0 2

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Which ONE issue mattered most in deciding whom you are supporting today? (Check only one) • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
Farm issues 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Education 14 0 21 30 4 38 1 1 0 4
Health care/Medicare 28 0 22 25 14 38 1 0 0 1
U.S. trade policy 4 2 3 17 49 16 9 0 0 4
The war in Iraq 14 2 37 9 3 29 17 0 0 3
Economy/Jobs 29 1 16 33 12 34 1 1 0 2
National security 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

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Which ONE candidate quality mattered most in deciding whom you are supporting today? (Check only one) • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
Cares about people like me 22 0 15 41 17 23 2 0 0 1
Takes strong stands on the issues 29 0 31 23 7 26 10 0 0 2
Has the right experience 15 2 5 2 18 71 0 0 0 1
Can beat George W. Bush 26 2 21 30 6 37 1 0 0 3
Endorsements 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

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Geo Stratum Code • Back to Top
Category % Total Clark Dean Edwards Gephardt Kerry Kucinich Lieberman Sharpton Uncommitted
Central 36 1 18 31 12 32 3 1 0 2
East 47 1 22 22 10 37 5 0 0 2
West 18 1 23 23 12 38 1 0 0

[deek]

57. If only DK was more well-known.........check out yahoo article

only 6 people had rated it.........no media exposure--hope diminishing...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=ap/kucinich

If DK were more well-known, he'd be greeted as the salvation to our society that he is!!!

[snoochie]

59. Thanks for the link

8 now. :)

Take heart, the Kooch knew how it would go: slow and steady!

As more people hear about him, more people will take him seriously. Especially after the next free trade fiasco starts making the news!

[dsc]

58. I loved your guy at Dubuque

First I thought he was cute but he also stayed until the last dog died. I have no idea how long he will stay in the race but he did OK in Iowa.

[Bhaisahab]

61. I dont have any say....

.... since i am not american. but i'm a diehard idealist, and i am grateful that americans like kucinich still have the courage to run for president, despite the jeers and laughs his worldview gets from "pragmatists" and "realists".
america needs idealists if it wants to change the world.

[dsc]

63. I actually meant his supporter

he was very tenatious. It was on Cspan

[flaminbats]

62. I'm still undecided...

but watching those caucuses demonstrated something to me that I would not have picked up otherwise...the Kucinich backers probably had the greater impact on the outcome of these caucuses than did the Gephardt or Dean backers. If it had not been for them, Edwards would have done as badly as Dean or Gephardt. I don't think Edwards has much in common with Kucinich, but he needs to think about this if he hopes to remain competitive!

Although their candidate did not do well, Kucinich backers have demonstrated that they are a major factor to be considered in the upcoming primaries. These people seemed to be the most realistic, they already knew their guy was the long shot, but had taken more time to consider other viable candidates..unlike the Gephardt and Dean people. Any of those candidates who ignore this Kucinich factor can suffer the consequences.

[Egnever]

64. My hats off to the kucinich supporters

I was impressed with thier comitment tonight and have nothing but respect for thier willingness to stick to thier guns despite facing incredible odds.

Congrats on the great showing in Iowa you guys worked hard and it paid off.

[tobys]

65. Yay Kucinich

Slowly but steadily, that's how we will win this.

[sweetheart]

66. Iowa is a win for kucinich!!

No matter what the numbers say... because he's out there, and the only real platform that will cure america's ills is being put in to the public mind.

It is also a win, as i think kerry is more likely to become a unity administration with kucinich than mr. dean is.

Perhaps i'm wrong on that, and i'd like to be corrected, as to who is most likely, on winning (if Dennis does not win the nomination) to take on board Dennis as a cabinet position and engage his supporters in the new administration. It seems that Mr dean, on being so divisive is definitely NOT that... and a kerry win indicates a potential for democratic unity, and a win against the evil scourge.

Great good tidings.!!!

[Iverson]

67. good to have gotten delegates

Of course I wish that he had gotten more, but something is better than nothing. His voice will remain indispensible to this campaign, with an especial emphasis on actual opposition to this administration's radical right-wing policies.

Since it has been demonstrated that the major news media is hostile to his campaign, his delegates may all need to be the result of grassroots work. There's a strength in that, for those who enjoy democracy.

[AP]

69. How about the Kucinich supporter on CSPAN!

Did you see how close he was to getting K a delegate? Had he had ten more minutes, he would have taken all those Gep supporters, and he would have gotten back the supporters who went to other rooms, and he could have exercised the option on the Edwards supporters, and K would have had an Iowa delegat. So close! But that's exactly the spirit.

I think K supporters all over the country need to grasp that guy's energy and take it forward.

[AP]

70. I would love to see this guy again. K's campaign should find him.

They should edit down the caucus footage to make a little movie of what this guy did and put it on the website.

If anyone sees anyplace on the web where they have this footage (at CSPAN or K's site) post a thread about it at DU!

[LWolf]

71. I was surprised that the cameras

seened so interested in what he was doing. It started with the Gephardt girl giving a big, rousing plea, and him in the background going, uh...Kucinich? And ended by following him everywhere, lol!

[AP]

72. Whoever was directing knew where the story and the drama was.

If TV weren't afraid to cover politics, they could turn the caucuses (and the whole election) into the best reality show ever, and that Kucinich guy would be a star.

That was amazing how it started with him whispering in the ear of the Lieberman woman (?) with the Gep woman persuading her. Of course that middle age woman went with the clean, pretty girl with the campaign T-shirt (albeit momentarily). But she ended up losing her entire crew. And it was that passion of the Kucinich guy which was on the VERGE of matching Dean with one delegate.

The K campaign need to watch that video and see how unbelievably close they were, and to figure out where they went wrong. It's not ideas. It's ORGANIZATION.

It's funny because earlier in the day, after the Edwards announcement, K getting his supporters to understand the strategy was like herding cats. Nobody wanted to follow him. Lots just wanted to complain. And look at this guy in the caucus. What did he need to get ONE delegate?: people not to act like cats. He needed organization. He needed ten more minutes. Had he known how the caucuses worked when he walked in the door, he would have been running around from the minute he walked in. He would have gotten that delegate. He just needed to go to Edwards's group to get what he needed there, and he needed to get back the people he lost, and he needed those Gep people. So close.

[Nadienne]

81. Is there a clip of this

somewhere so I can see it?

[AP]

83. If there is, someone please PM me.

I don't even know which CSPAN channel or which city it was.

Anyone who knows, let me know please.

[Tinoire]

75. DK Supporters! Our DU article is on DK's home page today!

It's at the bottom right in the section "Dennis in the News"

Dennis Kucinich Walks the Talk
DemocraticUnderground.com, 1/19/04

Now if we can just find a way to get that typo fixed (affects to effects)! :)

Woohoooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DemBones DemBones]

77. GREAT!!! You guys did so well, but I knew you would!

I did keep trying to get to that site to help but never could get anything but a completely blank page. :shrug:

I'm so glad you're on the Kucinich site!

:yourock:

[Tinoire]

82. Darn!

I'll PM you tonight re Genetically Modified Foods and see what the problem was :(

Regards :hi:

[Lostnote03]

76. Stay On Message DK...!!!

......Thank You for being the "Voice" of the practical Progressive American citizen.....Your David vs Goliath message will eventually prevail....You have a voice!!!....BTW, neat move endorsing Edwards.....Best Wishes

[leftbend]

80. Dennis is changing politics

in the U.S. The very least he will do is bring about change and open peoples eyes to see there are other ways, we are together on this planet and can live together in Peace. His is an important message and must continue. If he were President he could effect real change for good in the world. Keep up the support and work and dollars for Dennis Kucinich. It's for our country, our children, our planet.
Peace

[AP]

84. Kucinich People, take this advice:

Fax the Daily Show at 212-468-1890 and tell them to get that Kucinich supporter from CSPAN on the show.

Turn this kid into a celebrity.

I'm totally serious.

[DjTj]

86. YES!!

That kid needs to be one TV more.

The Iowa Caucuses were the best reality show ever.

[goodhue]

87. That's great advice AP!

Does the bearded guy have a name?

[goodhue]

88. last night's speech for those who haven't seen it . . .

http://www.kucinich.us/kirkwood.php

Dennis Kucinich addresses his Iowa delegates and supporters after the Iowa Caucus
1/20/04
Kirkwood Hotel Ballroom
Des Moines, Iowa

"Some would think it's unwise to suggest that when you have 1% of the delegates that somehow you can take that as a springboard to the nomination, but I will say that kind of daring and fearlessness is what this country is actually looking for at this time, because if we have learned anything over the past few weeks, it is that the political condition in this state and for that matter in this country is very volatile, that somebody's up one day and down the next. So this campaign is always going to be committed to consistent principles which I believe at some point the American people will wholeheartedly embrace and I'm going to begin with this: and that is the principle that we must work for a peaceful resolution of the situation in Iraq which means bringing in UN peacekeepers and bringing our troops home. Let me tell you that while this becomes urgent that some of the election results already are being interspersed as being a rejection of the message about getting out of Iraq.

I will make a prediction that the American people, as this campaign season continues to advance, will begin to focus very sharply on this question of Iraq and the connection between the positions of the various candidates and what those postions will mean with respect to that prospective nominee and whether or not we're going to continue to be in Iraq. This campaign, and we are at the beginning of this campaign, will offer the American people a sharp contrast with all the other candidates.

Now there's one candidate, Al Sharpton, who has also agreed that we should get out of Iraq, I want to make that clear. And we ought to be grateful for him taking that position. And we should credit when someone takes that position. But in this race here in Iowa we began the debate, I stood alone in putting that message out to people.

But this is just the beginning and we need to recognize that. And being at the beginning of a debate is an important moment, because we start to lay the basis for a continuing discussion nationally about the wisdom or lack of wisdom about this country's position on continuing the war against Iraq and continuing the occupation. I want to review this tonight, because this is really going to be the basis for so much of our campaign down the road. All of the other democrats in this Iowa debate just kind of swept this position aside, and said we're going to have to stay the course, we're going to be there for a long time, and there's nothing we can do about it. We've got to clean up the President's mess.

Our campaign is the vehicle by which our soldiers are going to have their security protected. We have to. We have to recognize that we're at a dangerous moment with respect to Iraq. Where the Iraqi people, 100,000 Iraqis, marched through the streets of Baghdad in a nonviolent protest demanding that this American government stop this effort to basically rig the elections in Iraq. That our government must take a whole new direction. We must take a Boston where we go to the UN and say look, we're giving up the ambitions to oil
We're giving up the ambitions to contract
We're giving up the ambitions for privatization
We're giving up the ambitions to contract
We're giving up the ambitions to control the government of Iraq
That we want a new approach and working with the new world community
We want to bring in UN peaceekeepers
We want to bring our troops home
We want to help rebuild Iraq
We want to provide help to people who lost their lives, the innocent people
We want to help provide for UN peacekeepers
Because that's the right thing to do
We're going to keep this campaign going
We're not going to let this go
We're going to keep this campaign going
We're going to go on to New Hampshire
We're going to go on to South Carolina
We're going to go to New Mexico and Arizona
We're on our way to the west, the north, the south,
We're carrying this campaign all the way to the convention
And we will win at the convention
And we will win
because we stand for social and economic justice
unifying the world
bringing peace and stability to Iraq
and the only way we're going to do that is to
Bring in UN peacekeepers and bring our troops home.

Our President said "Bring 'em on" and I say "Bring 'em home". Bring our troops home. And so you know the polls talked about us having 3% support. Every delegate here raise your hand, I want to explain what these delegates represent. This means in these precincts that we got 15% of the vote. All around this state we had people who were able to demonstrate that by rallying together we were able to get 15% of the vote, that's how we get delegates. That's how we have delegates in this room right now, and there are many more outside the city of Des Moines that are celebrating tonight that they're going to be delegates. But we have to recognize something. This election we started off one of 9 candidates considered to be in 9th place, because we came to Iowa, because we campaigned in Iowa, over the period of the last 11 months, we moved up from 9th to 5th. So what we need you to do now is to join with us in continuing to organize as we go state to state.

So we need your help in continuing to raise money at our website at kucinich.us, we need your help in continuing to assist us in organizing in other states. The ones that are near Iowa, for those of you who are able to drive, you can help us. We need your help in continuing to build this grassroots effort. We recognize that we've taken the first step today. But the first step is the most important when you are taking a journey of a thousand miles. But this step that we took today is a step that demonstrates the courage of this campaign, the commitment of this campaign, the heart of this campaign, the spirit of this campaign, and the spirit of all the people who are in this room and all of the people who all over America are counting on this campaign to really bring the light of peace to this nation and the world.

Now Chet Quinn talked about Dr. Martin Luther King, and he gave a speech at Riverside Church in New York, and I believe it was in 1967, where he talked about the war in Vietnam, as destroying the hopes of peoples of two nations. Of Vietnam and of the United States. This war is already costing the American people, the treasure of so many of our young people, 500 casualties, as well as great financial losses. Now I am letting you know that I am going to be there for you every step of the way. And that we will either bring these other Democratic candidates into an identical position or we are going to sweep them aside as we go to the nomination.

Now tomorrow, at 3:00 this morning, I'll be on my way to New Hampshire to show you that I'm not going to miss a beat, waste any time or get any sleep. And what I will be talking about as I arrive in New Hampshire is an issue that is greatly affecting the people in New England, and that is trade. And how people there are losing so many industries because of these trade agreements that have basically enabled giant corporations to just move jobs out of this country in quest of lower wages. Every working person in this country realizes that corporations are trying to drive down wages. So what we need to do is to raise this issue. I talked about here it in this state and I"m going to talk about it in New Hampshire as well. How urgent it is that the United States totally change the direction it is going on trade. And that it is urgent that we repeal NAFTA and the WTO and go back to bilateral trade conditioned on workers rights, human rights, and environmental quality principles. And I will continue our campaign for universal single payer not for profit health care.

So once again let's talk about you, let's talk about what you've done to help us win delegates. I cannot thank you enough. I'm ever so grateful for the demonstration that you have made of your commitment. Remember that it was 15% that enabled you to be able to stand here as a delegate or to recognize the work to gain a delegate in your precinct. That's an enormous statement of the work that was done in a campaign that most people said there wouldn't be any chance we could get numbers like that.

You accomplished something. Now think of what that means, as we keep that spirit going, as we communicate that courage and that love. I am so grateful for your support, I am so grateful for the contributions that you've made, and I will carry this goodwill and these wishes and this energy with me to New Hampshire to begin our campaign to take the message to New Hampshire and to get some more delegates! Thank you very much!"