Yea, right Mr. Schwarzenegger

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Ads to Back Schwarzenegger for President

Nov 13, 7:40 PM (ET)

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SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - Californians will soon see advertisements urging them to help give Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and other foreign-born citizens the chance to run for president.

The cable television ads, set to being running Monday, are from a Silicon Valley-based group that wants to amend the U.S. Constitution, which limits the presidency to people born in the United States. Schwarzenegger was born in Austria but became a U.S. citizen in 1983.

"You cannot choose the land of your birth. You can choose the land you love," Lissa Morgenthaler-Jones says in the ads.

She is a San Francisco Bay area mutual fund manager and major Schwarzenegger campaign donor who is helping pay for the ads and created a companion Web site.

Schwarzenegger, 57, has said he would consider running for president if the Constitution allowed but hasn't pushed for a constitutional change.

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[StopTheMorans]

19. that would be the ultimate validation of H.L. Mencken, read on:

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

[Andromeda]

39. The White House already has a moron..

:)

[iamjoy]

2. Change The Constitution?

Of course, if we were to do so, Jennifer Granholm (the really cool, really cute Democratic Governor of Michigan) could run too.

I heard one commentator on NPR saying that if we do amend the Constitution to allow foreign born citizens to run, it should not be done with a specific person in mind. Rather, if we do it, there should be a clause that it doesn't take affect for 20 years.

Now, forget about Arnold. Pretend he doesn't exist. Forget about Governor Granholm as well. Should we allow some one who is an American by choice, not birth be president? Read another way, should we allow a person who will always have some small allegiance to a foreign power hold the highest office in the land?

[ibegurpard]

3. There ya go

"I heard one commentator on NPR saying that if we do amend the Constitution to allow foreign born citizens to run, it should not be done with a specific person in mind. Rather, if we do it, there should be a clause that it doesn't take affect for 20 years."

No way would I support it unless there was such a provision.

[tsuki]

21. I think it would take 20 years to go through the process.

[Andromeda]

41. By that time Gropenboober ...

will be 77 years old.

Not likely to benefit him.

[Joylaughter]

4. Governator will be Pres some day for sure

I just thought Kerry would be Pres first.

[Skink]

5. Why not

Since we are living in Nazi Germany anyway. why not have an actual Nazi. We've already got Rove.

[Joylaughter]

7. I do not believe that Arnold is a Nazi.

Why must the sins of the father be visited upon the son? He is a socially liberal, fiscally conservative governor. He is okay with Gay Marriage and has said so. He is okay with Stem Cell Research. He said so. I live in CA and so far, I like him. Even though I have voted Dem my whole life and hated the way he got in and what they did to Gray Davis.

[intheozone]

14. He has also said that he

admired Hitler and the power that Hitler was able to have over the people. We don't need a Hitler wanna-be as President, what we have right now is close enough to that and you see how well that is working out for us! NOT!!

[Nimble_Idea]

8. lol

there ya go

[Andromeda]

38. Ah'nold just tries to disguise it...

but he was raised a Nazi and had Nazi principles drummed into his head as he was growing up.

This kind of brainwashing DOESN'T completely disappear in your collective psyche.

He doesn't have any respect for women and won't accept any responsibility for his groping episodes. He just calls it "play."

[Pushed To The Left]

6. This could actually GOOD news for progressives

if it happens. If Arnold Schwarzenegger got the Republican nomination, the radical religious right would be SHUT OUT of the Presidential election, with nobody to vote for! I would vote for the Democrat, but I'd be happy knowing that the far right had already been taken out of the equation.

[Julien Sorel]

13. It don't think it would necessarily work like that.

The religious people could easily be persuaded to vote for Arnold, especially if they thought he was guaranteed to win. No point in antagonizing the president, when he isn't downright hostile to your principles in the first place. And Arnold has no real principles of his own, so he's perfect. He's all about Arnold first, money second. He would throw principles overboard faster than a sinking ship would jettison ballast, if he thought it would help him. He would PR blitz the religious people, sell his soul to the Republican power brokers to make deals with them -- whatever it takes.

[TankLV]

16. Does that mean we could have a full frontal nude of a president hanging in

the White House?

Now, should it be erect or not erect?

I've got some good ones of him - just in case!

[mtnsnake]

18. Don't get your hopes up. By that time, Arnold will become born again.

He'll start collecting guns, too, and become a big game hunter just to cover all bases.

[Avalux]

26. My thought exactly!

He will "find Jesus" and denounce his past actions. I keep saying this and I HOPE people are listening - Karl Rove is salivating at the thought of molding Ahnuld into the next Prez. I tend to believe the wheels are already in motion. Rove is genius when it comes to the big picture and planning ahead.

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[intheozone]

15. I'm in Sacto too

my office window looks down Capitol Mall to Arnie's office. And I hate having him there! He is an embarrassment. I sure hope he is not elected. And doesn't the fact that people are talking about running him for President disprove the whole "moral values voters are responsible for * being re-elected. WTF, if Kerry wasn't "moral" enough, how the helll is Arnie good enough to be elected???

[MisterP]

20. think Angelides would be a good bet?

he could hit Gov. Roid Rage on his corporatist budget schemes.
Have you seen any large-chested aides around in "Sakreemento"? I can speak German and I don't know what he's saying.

[Cha]

23. Welcome to DU, Craig!

Good Luck on ousting arnie in 2006!

Surely there is someone in the great state of California that would be a much better Governor than the swartzshit?

[Andromeda]

40. I don't believe Arnold will be re-elected in 2006.

And I'm going to work to see that he doesn't!

Democrats are going to have to learn NOT to be so damn easy to get along with like panting, slurping obedient puppy dogs.

I call this subservience the "Stockholm Syndrome." Democrats are being held captive and they are unaware that their "obedience" is going to get them nowhere.

Ah'nold bullied his way into the governorship with the help of Darryl Issa, using an obscure recall statute that has never before been used in California.

This was tramatic for California and I feel that our Democracy has suffered because of the actions of the Gropenegger, Uncurious George and Dickless Cheney.

[Julien Sorel]

10. He's getting on in years.

They are going to have to ram this through in a hurry if they plan on using him, and who knows what the political landscape will look like in 2008, or 2012? In 2016, he would be 70, and the glow from his silly ass movies would have long since faded away.

I expect to see a huge push for this in the near future. I
am a little surprised to see them running commercials, as I thought they'd use the talking head circuit first, but it makes sense now, as it follows the right wing pattern of media manipulation: get a buzz going, have the cable whores whip it up, then it reaches the more serious media after that, and you've got a movement going.

[NV Whino]

11. Can't we just send him back to Austria? n/t

[St. Jarvitude]

27. Die Österreicher wünschen den Governator nicht!

They don't want him. At least, every one in Vienna, Salzburg, and Kitzbühel didn't want him back, and in fact had a patent dislike for the fellow because he's created a horrible stereotype of Austrians in America.

[Dem2theMax]

44. Can he take * with him? PLEASE!

I REALLY need to get out of this country for a while.

Come on Lotto numbers! California lotto numbers to be exact.
How in the stinking world did I get so lucky?
* for a pResident (read 'village idiot') and the gropenator for a Governor. :puke:

[LWolf]

12. No, thank you.

My so-called governor is a humiliation to my state the way the so-called "president" is a humiliation to our nation.

[Democat]

17. Then Osama Bin Laden could run for president of the United States!

Don't let the terrorists win! :)

[smiley_glad_hands]

22. The constitution will never get changed to allow him.

Redstaters are xenophobic--let him waste his time and money trying. Personally, I think you should be a natural born citizen in order to be president.

[fujiyama]

28. Yeah this isn't going anywhere

The amendment has absolutely no legs. It's less likely to go anywhere than the FMA, which I think may have more of a chance now (I did hear they will bring it up again).

The idea itself isn't too bad - there are many people here that have become citizens having not been born here that would make a decent president, but I don't think it's a pressing concern in any way. I'm not a big fan of amending the constitution for unecessary measures and this is one of them.

Plus, I don't want Arnold as president.

[Q]

24. What are Arnold's QUALIFICATIONS for president?

- Has our nation been dumbed-down so much that we don't really care if a candidate is actually qualified to be president? Is it that after George*, anything goes?

- Bush* would have never made it into office if the SC hadn't installed him and the media had done their job of informing citizens about his TRUE record and history.

- Republicans seem to want to change the Constitution to fit their agenda. They have dozens of 'amendments' waiting in the wings...from flag burning to marriage to making the Gropernater president. What frivilous bullshit.

- This amendment will NEVER happen. Count on it.

[Clarkie1]

30. Arnold's a very bright guy and has been doing some good things

here in California. Not all I agree with, of course. He's about as good as a Republican can get, though.

[Andromeda]

42. Hope you're right.

"This amendment will NEVER happen. Count on it."

[mitchum]

25. Roll on, Teutonic douchebag

[Kipepeo]

29. Look at that giant picture of him in the background

Tell me that's not scary:

[Presidentcokedupfratboy]

31. Arnold is a shitty governor

And he would be equally bad as President.

[Clarkie1]

32. Do you live in California? I wouldn't call his performance "shitty"

I actually think Arnolds done an fairly good job here. He's enacted some good environmental policies. Also pushed things I don't agree with like 3 strikes law that can put someone away for stealing a pizza.

He's very popular here, though. He's also actually gotten Sacramento to work in a bipartisan way on the problems facing the state, which was something Gray Davis was not able to accomplish.

[demothinker]

33. From a fellow Californian - I agree

He's been much better than I thought he would be. And I voted for Arianna. I won't say he's been great, but he does have bipartisan approval so far, and he has angered the GOP here almost as much as the Dems, so it could be far worse.

[laheina]

34. from a fellow Californian

He has a habit of following ONLY the laws he sees fit to follow. Like those regarding gifts from corporations and lobbyists and the disclosure of campaign funds!

He is a master of PR, but I'm going with shitty too!

[Andromeda]

37. I don't agree...

Arnold is a disaster and I don't trust him as far as I could throw him.

He's an opportunist -- in a bad sense -- he has no moral compass and I don't mean that in a religious sense either. He is insulting to Democrats, eg. "girlie men."

He bullied his way into the governorship with the help of an obscure CA law and all of a sudden we are supposed to welcome him with open arms.

[VOX]

46. RW GOPers overturned the results of a legit election to put Arnold in...

Those who bankrolled the CA recall knew from the beginning that a bonafide right winger wouldn't fly in blue California, and that Arnold was the better match.

The guy is an out-and-out fraud who's in power only by the sake of a right-wing power grab. His **only** appeal is the idiot-public's blending of his persona with his action-figure movie characters.

Arnold has campaigned heavily for Orin Hatch, and Orin is returning th favor with pushing the amendment to allow naturalized citizens be eligible to run for president.

Watch out for Arnold -- he is a rampant careerist, and he has his eyes on the presidency. He'll do/say anything to get there.

[demwing]

49. His **only** appeal ..

His **only** appeal is the idiot-public's blending of his persona with his action-figure movie characters.

I think that you may be vastly underestimating the power of that sole appeal.

[laheina]

35. Can his ego BE any bigger?

[littleleaguemom]

36. Arnold is incredibly popular here

If he wants another term, he will get it. He does have a big head, can't imagine him being President. Amendments take forever, anyway.

[Andromeda]

43. You must live in Southern CA...

just a guess because most of Northern CA around the Bay area voted for Bustamente and against the recall.

Arnold isn't very popular here.

[laheina]

48. Yep! NoCal rocks!

[JDPriestly]

45. Foreign born

Schwarzenegger's problem isn't where he was born. It's that he does not understand the American form of government. He doesn't understand the concept of separation of powers. As a result, he belittles and ridicules the California state legislature. He would be a horrible president.

[laheina]

47. Thank You!

He's being investigated for letting his staffers take corporate favors, and he says that he doesn't see anything wrong with it. Nobody is going to sell him out.

Well, boobengrabber, it's illegal. That's the problem with it.

And besides, he said, in his campaign, that he wouldn't take money from special interests -- and he has. The gifts are just an extension of that.