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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:47 AM
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My letter to Senator Durbin re: Alberto Gonzales (long)
Senator Richard Durbin
230 South Dearborn St.
Suite 3892
Chicago, IL 60604

November 13, 2004
Re: Alberto Gonzales

Dear Senator Durbin,

It is with a heavy heart that I write you today. For the past four years, our nation has greatly suffered from the incompetence and unconstitutional actions of Attorney General John Ashcroft. Any honest legal scholar or student of history would conclude that he has been the worst Attorney General in this country’s history. Until now.

For some, it was inconceivable that the President could select someone worse than John Ashcroft as his replacement. Yet, he did precisely that. Alberto Gonzales is an abomination, a danger to our democratic way of life and an even greater threat to our freedoms and constitutional rights than any bomb constructed by Al Qaida.

By way of comparison, please allow me to digress slightly. Despite his many flaws and legal problems, former Illinois Governor George Ryan accomplished one deed that has changed the legal climate not only in Illinois, but throughout the country. Once he learned that the existing political-legal climate had caused the application of Illinois’ Death Penalty to be patently unfair, he did not take the easy, political step of ignoring the issue, or relying on platitudes intended to placate the average voter. Instead, he took the brave step of doing everything possible to understand and define the problem, then, he put into motion the difficult, even unpopular steps necessary to fix it. All citizens owe him a debt of gratitude for his rational and fair-minded approach to that problem. Because of his hard work and insight, 14 innocent individuals no longer sit on Illinois’ Death Row. Other states, with the painful exception of Texas, are following Illinois’ lead.

One of the more feeble compliments paid to Alberto Gonzales are that he was viewed as a “moderate” while serving on the Texas Supreme Court. One of the advantages of our modern society is that West and Lexis permit you to research the decisions rendered by any judge, including those of Justice Gonzales when he served on that Court.

Without boring you with numerous examples or legal citations, proclaiming Alberto Gonzales to be a “moderate” on the Texas Supreme Court is akin to labeling Martin Bormann a “moderate” member of the Nazi Party. While both statements may be true, when viewed in the greater context, it is patently obvious that Gonzales’ decisions and writings on the court are far from mainstream jurisprudence. They constitute a clear warning of how unacceptable this man is.
Suffice it to say that his actions on the Texas Supreme Court would alone be sufficient cause to prevent Gonzales from ever holding any public office. Not once would he even consider the prosecution to have acted in error. Not once did he ever find grounds to criticize improper convictions. For Gonzales, if a jury finds a person guilty, regardless of the circumstances, be it improper evidence, false confessions, false witnesses or DNA evidence confirming the innocence of the accused, every single time, Gonzales sided with the prosecution. The differences between his approach to fair application of the law and Governor Ryan’s are most striking.
The most disturbing aspect of his legal decisions is his apparent moral certitude. Obviously both Gonzales and President Bush share the identical failing. As Bertrand Russell once stated, “Moral certainty, in the face of all evidence to the contrary, can never construed to be an asset.”
When Alberto Gonzales served under the Governor Bush, it was his duty to inform the governor of the details on all death penalty cases. Whereas George Ryan had the insight and bravery to put a stop to a patently unfair system, Texas death penalties were imposed unabated and without any concern for fairness or honesty. Evidence of mental incapacity of the accused, incompetent counsel, falsified evidence, and mistaken identities were routinely ignored and covered up by Gonzales. If anything, he appeared eager to have people be killed as soon as possible rather than seek the admittedly more time-consuming and difficult task of insuring that only the truly guilty were to be put to death. As stated in the Atlantic Monthly, "Gonzales repeatedly failed to apprise the governor of crucial issues in the cases at hand: ineffective counsel, conflict of interest, mitigating evidence, even actual evidence of innocence."
The most recent and disturbing example of Gonzales’ unsuitability for office occurred in 2002. Gonzales authored an August 1, 2002 Memo entitled, “Re: Standards of Conduct for Interrogation under 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2340-2340A”. This document makes for chilling reading. Its impact is not limited to merely scaring most law-abiding citizens. It led directly to the violation of the Geneva Convention by US military and intelligence personnel in Guantanimo, Abu Ghraib and other Iraqi prisons. The repercussions of our failures there have yet to come home to roost. For the first time since My Lai, the United States is guilty of war crimes. It is nothing to be proud of. Almost as bad was his analysis of the War Crimes statute (18 USC §2441).
Solely because of Gonzales’ misguided and illegal decisions, America’s reputation across the globe has been seriously harmed, perhaps, irreparably damaged. For many decades, we were the beacon of law, order and freedom. Our moral reputation, sense of fair play, and love of democracy, not our military might, was our greatest strength, for it caused all bystanders to understand why we acted in certain ways. It caused the oppressed to have hope, and to seize their own opportunities when they became available. It made them want to emulate our own legal and constitutional systems because they were fair, equitable and rational.
Sadly, that is no longer the case. Under Gonzales’ guiding principles, we have become the torturers, the murderers, the liars. All of our goodwill has been erased. All of our moral authority has been eradicated. All future problems with American prisoners of war (for, it is certain that we will suffer POWs again, no matter how strong our military is) will be directly connected with Gonzales’ convenient, illegal and horrifying August 1, 2002 declaration and its progeny. What makes it all even worse is the repeated statement by CIA and other intel experts, that torture almost never provides decent, useful information. While it is more time-consuming, better intelligence is gained through other means. So, not only were US policies based on Gonzales’ memo unjustified and illegal, the actions based on his memos were counter-productive.
In summary, Alberto Gonzales is far more dangerous than John Ashcroft, despite Ashcroft’s best efforts. Gonzales cares little about our Bill of Rights, the Geneva Convention, and long-settled aspects of criminal and constitutional law. His appointment is not just a travesty, it is a disaster in the making. Any one of the three points I raise would be sufficient to bar any person from federal office. Together, they paint a picture so dire and dangerous, that we cannot afford to gamble on a supposed change of heart. His nomination must be stopped.
Let us ignore his work on behalf of Enron, or the fact that he will lead Justice in its investigation of the Valerie Plame situation. Let us ignore that voter fraud and machine voting problems will receive neither the notice nor the independent, professional review necessary for a thriving democracy to survive. Most importantly, let us ignore the fact that Gonzales is Hispanic.
Being Hispanic does not give any person the right to violate the Constitution, ignore fairness and equity, and violate international standards of civilized behavior. In January 30, 1933, Hitler was appointed as chancellor of Germany. Does anyone dare think that refusing to appoint Hitler might have upset the Austrian vote? Suggesting that the Senate Democrats must approve Gonzales simply because he is Hispanic is both racist and anti-intellectual. It is also self-defeating. Failing to stand up against this horrific appointment will mean that the Democrats will never be able to stand up for what is right and to defeat what is wrong.

Senator, I know that it is highly unlikely that you will personally read this letter. Given your promotion and your senatorial duties, it is most likely that an aide is tasked with identifying and categorizing your mail. He or she will then send an approved form letter in response. This is not a criticism, merely an understanding of your duties and responsibilities and the time constraints that come with your office.

To the person who will actually read this letter, I beseech you to hear this Clarion Call. I am active in a number of internet –related sites, and have worked hard on behalf of the Democratic Party for the past several years.

The recent performance of the US Senate Democrats has been found to be lacking in spine and rational behavior. There are serious movements afoot to create a new third party. This movement is growing in strength, mainly because they see a Democratic Party that is afraid of its own shadow. It is afraid to take a stance against the most outrageous decisions of this administration. This administration’s timing has been impeccable before; with this appointment, the president is at it again. If the Senate Democrats do not prevent this appointment, a new third party may be our only hope, for the Democratic Party will again prove to be incapable of fulfilling the responsibility it claims to have earned. Waiting ‘to pick the right battle” is result in four wasted years of waiting. The most important battle is facing us right now.

In his first administration, he claimed to be a uniter, not a divider. With every step, he proved those words to be a lie. Now, on the eve of his second administration, he claims that all people are welcome – so long as we blindly follow his decisions and positions on critical issues. Despite his pleasant-sounding words, his actions belie his words yet again. By appointing Alberto Gonzales, he is declaring virtual war on our Constitution and our civil rights.

Gonzales pleads for a chance to prove himself. Yet, at every opportunity, his decisions and approach have been contrary to settled law, to fair application of legal authority and to the ideas of fairness and due process. He has had many opportunities to earn the trust, the moral and ethical reputation necessary to sit as the highest legal officer in the country. He has squandered each and every opportunity. We cannot gamble, hoping for a sudden conversion of a person so steeped in unethical and unacceptable actions.

Each time that we have met, I have been impressed by your candor, your honesty and your ability as a US Senator. It is my sincerest plea that you and your partners stand up to this horrible choice and prevent the appointment of Alberto Gonzales from becoming a fact. With sincerest admiration, I remain,
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Solitaire Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:10 AM
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1. great letter! Bravo :)
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:12 AM
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2. Thank you.
I plan to send it to the chicago papers, as well.

given both the trib's and suntimes' disdain for Ashcroft, they may print this as well.

or not. But we must try.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 05:43 PM
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21. Durbin as min leader is our only hope against Gonzales. Reid will rubber
stamp him.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:13 AM
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3. Mantra 1: "It's NOT the Ethnicity----It's the FASCISM!"
Mantra 2: "It's NOT the Ethnicity---It's the Fascist SOCKPUPPETRY!"

He ain't a "thinker". He's a pawn. It was the John YOO guy who did the heavy lifting on the anti-Geneva Convention memo. GONZALEZ just rubber stamps for his string-pullers (mixing puppet media here).
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:15 AM
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4. will his puppetry stop if confirmed? I doubt it.
Plus, he wouldn't have signed off on the memos unless he believed in them.

Let's not forget the entire picture. His history in Texass is so bad, we have to mobilize on keeping him out.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:31 AM
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6. I Totally Agree with Everything You Say about Him
But the wingnuts pursue their soundbyte strategy of boiling everything down to one thing---his ethnicity, that he's the "first Hispanic" blah blah. Orrin HATCH was shameless during the ESTRADA hearings, going all over the media with the FAKE argument that Dems were being racist or hypocritical in opposing "this well qualified Hispanic". The point needs to be hammered that we are COLOR BLIND in assessing who is best QUALIFIED, that it's his EXTREMISM in IDEOLOGY that is the issue, constantly hammering that IT'S NOT THE ETHNICITY that is the issue. The point needs to be made that almost all of the Hispanic organizations opposed ESTRADA and more than likely will oppose GONZALEZ, too.

I DO submit that his beliefs are SHALLOW, if not IRRELEVANT, since he's NOT a thinker. My focus on his signing of the memos is his RUBBER STAMPness.
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:26 AM
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5. Very Good.
I hope it does make the papers and if not, that it winds its way through Durbin's office and in the hands of somebody on his Judiciary staff - maybe you'll be watching a hearing on C-Span and you'll see some of your words come out of your Senator's mouth...
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:34 AM
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7. It is critically important the we write to all DEM senators
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 11:38 AM by lil-petunia
Most view e-mail letters as a bother, too easy to send, too easy to ignore.
Written, sent and received paper still adds something to the message. They usually earn a written response. And they do get read with greater impact and weight than e-mail.

So, everyone, PLEASE WRITE YOUR SENATORS!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:34 AM
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8. Resist Gonzales!!!!
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 11:42 AM by BrklynLiberal
Great letter!!! Kudos!!!!!!
I hope the Democrats get some C-O-U-R-A-G-E..They are starting to remind me of the lion in The Wizard of Oz. I cannot believe that I am hearing that they are thinking of not even putting up a fight in the confirmation of that torture/capital punishment supporter Gonzales as the new Attorney General!!!!
Just because he is not as weird as Asscroft does not mean he will not be as dangerous...in fact, based on his history, he may be more dangerous!!!! They are trying to slip him thru because he MAY not be pro-life....but he obviously has no more respect for that life after it is born that the so-called pro-lifers. He has been the right arm of Bush in his career of terminating the lives of those on death row in Texas and torturing those in AbuGharib. His appointment and approval as the AG would be a worse signal than that of Asscroft, since Gonzales' history is known, and it is much worse when it comes to human rights and justice!!!!
I am writing to my Senators..(Schumer and Clinton) and letting them know that I will not vote for them ever again if they vote to approve Gonzales for AG. (Altho I would never vote for Schumer again anyway!!)
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 01:11 PM
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13. Hi BrklynLiberal!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:35 AM
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9. WOW. Congrats.
great letter

:thumbsup:
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progressivedancer Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:49 AM
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10. great letter
I think this is a great letter, I will write one to Durbin too and now that we have a new senator by the name of Barack Obama (yay, happiness) I will write him a letter too. We are so lucky here in Illinois.
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:51 AM
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11. you need to write Fitzgerald, since he stays while they vote on Gonzales
Not until Obama is sworn in can he help, except morally and with public talks.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 12:38 PM
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12. Letter I wrote to Sens Clinton and Schumer
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 12:38 PM by BrklynLiberal
I urge you as strongly as I can, NOT to vote for the approval of Alberto Gonzales for Attorny General of the United States. His history of total disregard for justice and human rights should eliminate him from consideration for a position that is meant to safeguard these very things for the American people. What would it say to the world if a person who has not only encouraged, but justified torture and executions, were installed in the highest position for safeguarding human rights in the United States of America?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 02:01 PM
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14. A Great Link Summarizing All the Memos in Sequence
*******QUOTE*******

http://lawofwar.org/Torture_Memos_analysis.htm (Home Page: http://lawofwar.org/ )

On January 18, 2002, President George Bush (the decision is referenced1 in the Gonzales Memo of 25 January, 2002) made a presidential decision that captured members of Al Quaeda and the Taliban were unprotected by the Geneva POW Convention. That decision was preceded by a Memorandum dated January 9, 2002, submitted to William J Haynes II, General Counsel to the Department of Defense, by the Department of Justice's Office of Legal Counsel (which provides legal counsel to the White House and other executive branch agencies) and written by Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Yoo and Special Counsel Robert J. Delahunty.

The Yoo Delahunty Memorandum of January 9, 2002

The Yoo/Delahunty Memorandum provided the analytical basis for all which followed regarding blanket rejection of applicability of the Third Geneva Convention to captured members of al Qaeda and the Taliban. Its validity is, accordingly, analyzed in some detail at the end of this discussion.

The Rumsfeld Order January 19, 2002

In a Memorandum dated 19 January, 2002, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld ordered the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to inform combat commanders that "Al Quaeda and Taliban individuals...are not entitled to prisoner of war status for purposes of the Geneva Conventions of 1949." He ordered that "commanders should "...treat them humanely, and to the extent appropriate and consistent with military necessity, consistent with the Geneva Conventions of 1949." That order thus gives commanders permission to depart, where they deem it appropriate and a military necessity, from the provisions of the Geneva Conventions.

The Bybee Memorandum of 22 January, 2002

The Bybee Memo, Memorandum of 22 January, 2002 from Jay Bybee, Office of Legal Counsel for Alberto R. Gonzales, Counsel to the President and William J. Haynes II, General Counsel of the Department of Defense, Re: Application of Treaties and Laws to al Qaeda and Taliban Detainees , follows the same structural pattern as the Yoo/Delahunty Memo, but with additional analysis of certain international law/ law of war issues. Parts of it are also discussed below in some detail.

The Alberto Gonzales Memo January 25, 2002

On January 25, 2002, White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales sent a Memorandum to President Bush regarding a presidential decision on January 18, 2002, (the White House has issued an Order to that effect, dated February 7, 2002, see below) that captured members of the Taliban were not protected under the Geneva POW Convention ("GPW"), to which the legal advisor to the Secretary of State had objected. He advised that "there are reasonable grounds for you to conclude that GPW does not apply ...to the conflict with the Taliban." Mr. Gonzales argued that grounds for the determination might include:

1) a determination that Afghanistan was a failed state "...because the Taliban did not exercise full control over the territory and people, was not recognized by the international community, and was not capable of fulfilling its international obligations" (see definition of statehood in Cpt. 1.3 and discussion in Kadic v. Karadzic, 70 F.3d 232, 244 to 245 (2nd Cir, 1995) ) and/or

2) a "determination that the Taliban and its forces were, in fact, not a government but a militant, terrorist-like group."

Mr. Gonzales then identified what he believed were the ramifications of Mr. Bush's determination. On a positive note he felt they preserved flexibility stating that: ....

********UNQUOTE*******

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 02:23 PM
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15. Uh-oh, NCLR "Welcomes" the Nomination
Am starting to look up all the Hispanic organizations. I forget which one or two supported the ESTRADA nom. Notice that the NCLR press release zeroes in SOLELY on his ethnicity. Will be dropping them a line.

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http://www.nclr.org/content/news/detail/28109/

Contact:
Lisa Navarrete
Alexandra Jost
(202) 785-1670FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Nov 10, 2004

NCLR WELCOMES NOMINATION OF GONZALES TO SERVE AS ATTORNEY GENERAL

Washington, DC – The National Council of La Raza (NCLR), the largest national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the U.S., today welcomed President Bush’s nomination of White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales to succeed John Ashcroft as Attorney General. If confirmed, Gonzales would be the first Hispanic ever to serve as Attorney General.

“We are very encouraged by the Gonzales nomination. We previously criticized the Bush Administration for not having an Hispanic in the cabinet since the departure of former HUD Secretary, now Senator-elect, Mel Martinez. We are pleased that one of the first acts since the President’s reelection both rectifies that situation and marks an historic milestone for the Latino community. Never before has an Hispanic served as head of one of the four major cabinet posts – Secretary of State, Treasury, Defense, and Attorney General,” stated Janet Murguia, NCLR Executive Director and COO.

Murguia also noted Gonzales’ ties to the Hispanic community throughout his career. “Alberto Gonzales served with distinction on the board of directors of one of NCLR’s oldest and most respected affiliates, the Association for the Advancement of Mexican Americans (AAMA) in Houston, Texas. Moreover, during his tenure as White House Counsel, he has been one of the most accessible members of the White House staff to NCLR and other Hispanic organizations,” added Murguia.

Murguia concluded, “We acknowledge that this is the first step of a long confirmation process that requires that his record be fully examined. That being said, Gonzales is a thoughtful, reasonable public servant, a man of his word, and we have every expectation that his nomination will be very well received in the Latino community.”

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 02:30 PM
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16. MALDEF Is Reviewing His WHOLE Record Before Saying
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http://www.maldef.org/news/press.cfm?ID=242&FromIndex=yes

'If confirmed as Attorney General, the Honorable Alberto R. Gonzales would be the first Latino to hold this important Cabinet position. MALDEF is encouraged by President Bush's interest in making this historic appointment, however, MALDEF believes it is important to evaluate each candidate in their totality, regardless of race or ethnicity.

'We are currently proceeding with a comprehensive evaluation of Judge Gonzales' record. More information will be made available during the confirmation process that will further inform the public about his views and positions on key civil liberties and civil rights issues.

'MALDEF's core mission is to protect and promote the civil rights for the over 40 million Latinos living in the United States. We are profoundly concerned about all aspects of the Attorney General's responsibilities, not only its enforcement and prosecutorial duties but also important due process questions, including right to counsel.

'It has yet to be seen whether or not Judge Gonzales would be the best fit for our community but we are encouraged by this development,' saidTallman.

# # #
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 05:16 PM
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17. Thanks. could you grab other hispanic sites and post them here?
We should also warn them of the dangers posed by this man.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 05:19 PM
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18. Double Uh-oh, LULAC "unanimously ... endorse"
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 05:21 PM by UTUSN
Am quagmiring through this link of organizations to see how they come down. http://www.hispaniconline.com/res&res/org_ix.html UFW and some key legal ones haven't been updated on this.

LULAC's orientation is Uncle Tomish to start with.
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http://www.lulac.org/Issues/Releases/Gonzales.html

LULAC Board Unanimously Endorses
Alberto Gonzales's Nomination for U.S. Attorney General
Counsel’s strong experience, sound legal judgment, accessibility & community commitment
are cited as key factors in winning the organization’s support

Washington, DC – The National Executive Committee of the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) unanimously voted to endorse President Bush’s nomination of Alberto Gonzales to serve as Attorney General and is calling upon the Senate to quickly confirm him as the nation’s first Latino to head the U.S. Department of Justice.

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 05:20 PM
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19. Oh, wonderful
We support him because he's Hispanic. Great reasoning. Ask the African-American community what a friend Clarence Thomas has been to them.
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 05:32 PM
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20. but he's OUR Hispanic. Trust us. we can control him.
Just how many of the 47 death penalty cases he handled for Bush involved hispanics?
And how many of his cases he handled as judge, involved innocent hispanics who never got a fair day in court?

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:08 PM
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22. The Supposed "Liberals" on Capital Gang Just Sounded Retreat
Mark SHIELDS said that GONZALEZ has "a great personal story, the only one of eight siblings to go to college, and he MAINTAINS CONTACT with them..." Wow, didn't know one was supposed to stop contact with family when moving uptown.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:16 AM
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23. Another One Bites the Dust: NALEO "Commends" the Nomination
http://www.naleo.org/press_releases/PR_AlGonzales_111004.pdf

Well, I have just sent a letter summarizing our take on GONZALEZ to about 30 Hispanic organizations from the link given above plus to my regular mailing list.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 04:08 AM
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24. Bookmarked.
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 04:09 AM by JDPriestly
This thread is a great resource. Thanks.
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:55 AM
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25. good idea. some nice links here.
I will be busy writing today.

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:31 AM
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26. Just Did an Extreme Blast from the DU Media Links
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 11:47 AM by UTUSN
Probably over 60 outgoings. At first kept getting error messages about "server rejected - space not allowed." I took to typing out the e-addys and never got another one.

I need to be adopted by some blue state senators. Both of mine are hopelessly wingnut. Years ago I wrote to Senator KENNEDY. I got a note from staff saying they were forwarding my letter to my own senator, that EVERYBODY writes to Senator KENNEDY. Need a link for senate e-addys--------oh, here's one: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Who's on the Judiciary committee?--------oh, here it is, from the same link http://judiciary.senate.gov/members.cfm . It's back to Senator KENNEDY again.
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:44 AM
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27. nice link. I will be busy cutting and pasting today.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 12:24 PM
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29. The Senate E-addys Using Web Forms Instead of E-mail Addys
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 01:04 PM by UTUSN
have to be sent individually: Kennedy, Kohl, Feinstein, Schumer, Durbin, Edwards. The ones with e-mail addys can go collectively: Leahy, Biden, Feingold. For good measure, sent to SNOWE and SPECTER.

On Edit: Whups, the FEINSTEIN & FEINGOLD ones bounced. The former said she could only handle California mail; latter just said "Undeliverable".
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:53 AM
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28. wonderful letter; we all have to write to our Dem congresspeople.
They have to start standing up and screaming about what is going on. They have to stop appeasing Bush. They have to start taking strong positions on justice, equality....
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:13 PM
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30. Patrick Leahy
I would add Patrick Leahy to your letter as well. I was astounded to hear Senator Patrick Leahy essentially support the Gonzalez nomination. I heard a soundbite from him on the radio the other day, and he said "The President could have chosen to send us a devisive nominee, but he did not."

Alberto Gonzalez is not devisive? That's news to me. If the Democrats give him a pass on things like the torture memo, I am threw with them.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 06:29 PM
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31. Is Dick Durbin supporting the nomination?
I'd be suprised. He has been one of the few Senators that has been consistantly opposing Bush.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:14 PM
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32. There Are Great Dems Out There---
Waxman, Rangel, Durbin--------why can't we run THOSE?
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Deathadder Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:21 PM
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33. Great idea with the letter
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 10:21 PM by Deathadder
Just put onE in the mail box.

Will be maikng phone calls tomorrow...ALL DAY, ALL WEEK.

Please forward this to contacts far and wide...and as fast as possible!

Please help us petition the nomination of Alberto Gonzales for U.S. Attorney General.
He will most likely be confirmed, but let's give him a harder time than our "representatives" will!
If you thought Ashcroft was bad, fasten your seatbelts...

Just click, read, and sign!
http://www.petitiononline.com/xxx2004/petition.html
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Deathadder Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:32 PM
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34. The Email Glitch is fixed, your email stays private
You can now sign the petition without giving out your email address. Please read below!!! Please help!!!

Please forward this to contacts far and wide...and as fast as possible!

Please help us petition the nomination of Alberto Gonzales for U.S. Attorney General.
He will most likely be confirmed, but let's give him a harder time than our "representatives" will!
If you thought Ashcroft was bad, fasten your seatbelts...

Just click, read, and sign!
http://www.petitiononline.com/xxx2004/petition.html
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 10:18 AM
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35. Kick for Petition n/t
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Deathadder Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:09 PM
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36. Promote The link
We were able to get over two hundred signatures in about 36 hours, but we got over ten thousand for the recount petition, and this is just as important as a recount petition. One reason is if you feel they listen to you about a recount, they'll really listen to you about Gonzales, and the election is behind us, but Gonzales is just heading our way. We need people to email the link, post the link, and get groups and organizations knowing about the link. This is a must do, we have to work together, we have to make this happen, some how and some why, so Please take the link and do some damage with it.

http://www.petitiononline.com/xxx2004/petition.html
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 04:28 PM
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37. Reply from BIDEN to My E-ltr
Of the, what, 200, recipients, this is the first (or only) reply:

Thank you for your e-mail message. I appreciate having the benefit of
your views.

This response is an acknowledgement that we received your message and
will make note of your comments. Delawareans seeking a further
response who have included a postal address in their message will
receive a reply via U.S. mail as soon as possible. NOTE: Because we
have occasional problems with our e-mail system, Delawareans seeking
immediate assistance are urged to call my office in Wilmington (302)
573-6345.

For more information about the work I do as a Senator for Delaware,
please visit my web site at http://biden.senate.gov.

Sincerely,

Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
United States Senator
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:14 PM
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38. Kick for BIDEN n/t
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:35 PM
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39. Here's the One I DU-Media-Blasted
The supposed Liberal half of the pundits on CNN’s The Capital Gang have already sounded the retreat regarding the nomination of Alberto Gonzalez for Attorney General with the words, “He’s got a great personal story, only one of eight siblings to go to college, and he maintains contact with them!”

While the Republican majority makes it unlikely that the nomination can be blocked, Gonzalez’s record, ideology, and role as Bush waterboy need thorough exposure and opposition. But the Democrats have to stay focused on those things and not allow the process to be framed on the basis of “ethnicity,” as in, “the first Hispanic, blah blah…”

During the ESTRADA hearings the beleaguered Democratic leaders actually stood firm and eventually won a rare victory, perhaps surprising even themselves, although the deciding factor might have been Estrada’s possible personal baggage instead of ideology. And almost all of the Hispanic organizations joined in opposing him based on his ideology.

With Gonzalez, the Republicans are springing yet again their “ethnic“ or “racial” trap that started with George I’s use of Clarence Thomas: Nominating a member of a minority group, perhaps not too bright or accomplished, but who toes the Conservative line, and, most of all, stymies the Democrats by their having to oppose somebody from one of their traditional constituencies. The payload of the “ethnic” gambit is to derail the vetting process, keeping attention away from the nominee’s record and ideological fanaticism.

During the Estrada hearings, Orrin Hatch was all over the media with a Shirley Temple pout, saying innocently, “How can the Democrats oppose this well qualified Hispanic?”

The answer then should have been, as now, “It is NOT about the ethnicity. That would be racism and quotas. It’s about the ideology and his record.”

This link covers his whole career: http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=246536

This link covers his role in the torture policy: http://lawofwar.org/Torture_Memos_analysis.htm (Home Page: http://lawofwar.org / )
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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:41 PM
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40. Not to burst your bubble
Very well written letter, but Gonzales is going to be the next AG. If Asscroft can be approved by the judiciary committee (thanks Sen Feingold) and confirmed by the senate, Alberto will be confirmed by a 80-20 margin.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:51 PM
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41. Not Bursting Any Bubbles. We're Just Speaking Out While We Stll Can n/t
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