Bayh/Obama, unstoppable?

[Senator Lamb]

Bayh: governor and senator can definetely win on these "values", midwestern appeal, makes a solid red state of indiana in play. the gop will definetely have trouble attacking Bayh as they did Kerry. as for obama he fires up the base and minorities. together unstoppable.


for those who hate bayh for being to centrist, we need to work on the "culture" of america before we can once again run liberals. that takes grassroots and people like Dean.

[deadparrot]

1. Obama will be four years into his first Senate term.

Not anymore near experienced enough. If they want a minority for VP, go with Harold Ford Jr., or Bill Richardson.

Let's wait a couple of years, and then see where we are. Who knows, a massive scandal could break within the * administration, and someone who isn't even on the radar yet could emerge.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

29. Obama......

.....hey, the kid hasn't even stepped on the Seante floor yet....give him time.......

[nickinSTL]

48. Kid?

You must have a different definition of kid...

He's over 40, isn't he?

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

51. 42, to be exact

And he's older than me.......I just meant he's a kid in a political sense still.

[JohnKleeb]

2. I dont know

Obama needs more time in the senate I think, like you saw how Edwards was treated for having only one term.

[IndianaGreen]

32. Bayh is an asshole that won't even carry his own state.

Haven't we have enough of candidates that cannot carry their own state?

[JohnKleeb]

34. I dont want Bayh either

[George W. Dunce]

3. Bayh is an asshole

He sides with Bush on just about every issues. He is a younger Joe Liberman.

[kath]

30. Ewwwwww on Bayh. Pug-lite. exactly what we DON'T need

[AntiCoup2K4]

4. I will NEVER vote for Evan Bayh or any other DLC shithead.

Let them join the fucking Republican party, because their 10 year free ride dragging this party down is FUCKING OVER!!

[BluegrassDem]

5. Uhh...Bill Clinton was a member of the DLC

If Bayh were nonimated, he would have to have a liberal VP, preferably a woman or minority to bring in the base of the party. Sure, Bayh may not be the perfect the candidate, but no one here would not vote for a Bayh/Obama ticket!!

[AP]

17. And so was Dean. Being a member doesn't matter so much as what you

stand for.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

6. Why would anyone vote for Bayh when they can have a pure-blooded Repub,

the real thing? :shrug:

[Tweed]

7. Obama will be too green still

[SmokingJacket]

8. You underestimate the bigot vote.

Sorry, I'm feeling cynical.

Obama rocks, imho.

[BlueManDude]

9. Could we let Obama serve in the Senate for a term or two

before the national ticket stuff starts? He has served ZERO days in the US Senate and people want to run for president? This guy can be a force for years in the US Senate if we let him. Something tells me he's too smart to let this kind of talk get to his head.

[newyawker99]

20. Hi BlueManDude!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[BlueManDude]

22. pleasure to be here!

[AP]

10. Bayh would be a great nominee...for the Republican party.

He is not going to energize Democrats.

[JohnKleeb]

11. I have to agree, hes nothing special

[BluegrassDem]

13. What exactly is 'republican' about Bayh?

Someone clue me in...

[AP]

16. In My Life, Clinton praises Bayh's father and wonders what went wrong

with the son. I forget how he puts it, but he characterizes Bayh as abandoning some of the core aspects of what it means to be a Democrat.

I trust Clinton's characterization. And although I've tried to pay attention to Bayh's career, I have to say that the only thing I remember is being underwhelmed. I think that's pretty revealing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. Wasn't His Father Beat By Dan Quayle

cuz Birch Bayh was too liberal for Hoosiers...

He's a blue senator in a red state...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. all Cliinton said was that Evan Bayh Was As A Gifted Politician

but not as liberal as his dad was...

There's plenty of folks on this board who felt Clinton wasn't "liberal" enough...

As I said he's a blue senator is a red state...

[AP]

42. Oops. My mistake. I remembered "not as liberal" as being damning.

Says more about me than about Bayh or Clinton, I guess.

[goobergunch]

24. Clicky

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=1&vote=00179

[JohnKleeb]

27. I didnt say he was but he doesnt excite me

and hes too centrist.

[OneMoreDemocrat]

12. My feeling is that there will not be an African-American..........

President in this country in my lifetime.

If Blacks aren't even allowed to vote for President in many parts of our wonderful country, how will one ever be President?

[Jackson4Gore]

14. Please, enough with the Obama for VP and Pres threads

He is way too inexperienced. I would even question him being up for the job. As we saw with Edwards, it takes more than looking pretty to win. We need someone who is weathered and experienced and is trusted by Americans.

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

15. My dem sister in Indiana thinks Bayh would be a great choice

She is tapped in to the mood there, and thinks Bayh could even when Indiana...

[goclark]

18. Voting Machines Can Stop Them

That is why we need to work like hell on this issue.

If we let it slide now, forget 08

[TheWebHead]

19. Bayh / Biden '08

If you think Bayh is too far right, we have to do what we have to do to get back in power. Between Bayh and Warner, I'd rather have Bayh. And I'd like to see plain spoken and foreign policy guru Biden balance the ticket for those worried about Bayh's moderate record, despite his plagiarism past, I don't see that as a major issue.

[IndianaGreen]

41. Why not nominate Zell Miller? He is an older version of Bayh

As to Joe Biden, I will vote against him no matter what office this neolib puke happens to be running for.

Then there is the homophobe Sam Nunn...

[MeanAndGreen]

21. No freshman Senator or repub lite is valid for 2008

We are going to need a valid far left candidate to counter the sharp right turn this country has taken. No surrender.

[left is right]

23. Lord, no

I held my nose to vote for Bayh, because I would not vote for his opposition. I always hope for a strong Dem during the primaries

[Metatron]

53. It's true that compared to Marvin Scott

Bayh did seem like a liberal!

[JI7]

26. Evan Bayh probably can't get past the Primary

since he has voted for restrictions on abortion whoever else is running would just use it against him. and abortion is one of the issues that is important to the democratic party voters, especially since those in the primary tend to be more liberal.

[Thrill]

31. Any ticket with a Senator at the top is bad ticket

in my opinion. Their long Senate voting records are too easy to use to mislead people.

Must Run a Governor

Mike Easley or Phil Breseden.

If not a Governor someone like Wes Clark

[Perky]

33. better yet

Bayh-Graham (puts FLorida in play
Bayh=Richardson (Hispanic vote will be huge in 4 year plus the Gravitas factor)

Love Obama but too Green...Harold Ford would be interesting choice though.

[MuleChewingBriars]

35. Why Is Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL) Always Overlooked?

If he had been running with Al Gore instead of Lieberman in 2000....

If he had been running with Kerry instead of Edwards....

He's always been popular and respected here in Florida, a good vote-getter with moderate Republicans.

[tritsofme]

36. He'll be 72 in 2008

[zulchzulu]

50. With all due respect to Bob Graham....

..he's seen his day. During the primaries (which he dropped out first), he appeared to be senile.

Let him retire with some respect.

[Must_B_Free]

37. How old is Obama?

I thought you had to be 45 minimum to be President...

[TheWebHead]

40. 35 years old is the limit

but Obama is restricted really by experience at the national level in office, he's a better bet for '12 if we win in '08 or '16 if we lose...

[dogman]

38. Improbable.

[zulchzulu]

39. A marketing nightmare

If you wanted to give Rove a great, free gift, this ticket would work wonders.

[hippiechick]

43. I'll say it again: BAYH IS A F^&(@#% LOSER !

Ok?

:hippie:

[Capn Sunshine]

44. I don't hate Bayh for being a "centrist"

Howard Dean is a centrist. Bayh is a DINO right wing wacko.

You guys have to stop characterizing right wingers as centrist.
By this definition the only difference between a neocon and a centrist is one has a "D" after his name.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

45. Bayh?

You mean the guy who votes more often with the GOP than with the Dems?

Ick. :puke:

Talk to me about Obama after I have seen him in action for a few years. I want to see if his walk is as good as his talk.

[auburngrad82]

46. I have high hopes for Obama in the future but we have to give him time n/t

[Eurobabe]

47. sorry, no bayh -- yawn

[leesa]

49. I wouldn't vote for the DINO Bayh for any amount of money.

Obama is a rookie. Both very poor choices.

[Politicub]

52. No one is unstopable

Plus, we need someone like Obama to stay in the senate for a while.