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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:17 PM
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Fuck this shit...it's time for civil disobedience of the highest order
I believe Kerry won Florida and Ohio. The fix was in with BBV. No, this is not a conspiracy theory. We all know how easy it was to tamper with those machines. We all know the exit polls showed Kerry winning Florida and Ohio.

I AM PISSED AS HELL!!! I am more pissed that there isn't a bigger stink about this. If Kerry really wanted to win, he would be investigating this!!!!

Okay, we need some ideas as to how to cause trouble if this isn't investigated. We need to organize a mass protest or something.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:22 PM
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1. Which will accomplish what?
Demonstrations have their place, but we could do with a few less demonsrators and a lot more "salesmen".

Well need that to take back the states, which is what we need to take back the country.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:23 PM
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2. we won't be able to take anything back if the votes aren't counted
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SoCalDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:23 PM
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3. Focus your anger

Write the media.

Write to activist groups.

Explain your concerns and ask them to take action and investigate.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:25 PM
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4. I think you need to start thinking of sit-ins
in Congress, around the capitol mall, the White House. Anywhere they can't ignore you. Remember the Hoovervilles of Hoover's administration. You just have to start making life unpleasant for the assholes without doing anything violent or that can be construed as vandalism.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:36 PM
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5. I'm in. as soon as my semester of school ends, I'm going to Washington
to personally speak with the assholes down there. FUUUUUUCK!!!!! I AM PISSED AS HELL!!!!
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:34 PM
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6. How many times ...
will you TOLERATE the murder of a homosexual? How many times will you TOLERATE the murder of abortion providers? How many times will you TOLERATE the assassination of our political leaders? How many people like Wellstone must be murdered before it is understood that we are in a shooting war and THEY are doing all the shooting?

The great weakness of liberalism is that it often fails to recognize the potential for evil, even among itself. Freedom of speech does NOT mean you must tolerate agitprop for your extinction. NO quarter, for you will receive none.
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HR_Pufnstuf Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:43 PM
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7. let bush clean his mess up..
...there is a very good chance that impeachment will be part of this second term...

and he CANT blame anything that is wrong on clinton anymore..
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DianeK Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:48 PM
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9. there is not a whisper of a chance for impeachment
impeachment starts with the house...the house is republican..will not happen..does anyone ever remember a time when the house, senate and whitehouse were all exclusively republican or democrat? i am 50, i do not remember that time but i may be mistaken, educate me...checks and balances are over
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DianeK Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:44 PM
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8. I am with you....
direct me as to how i can help with this effort....i want this country back
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:14 AM
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12. Boycott...
Find out the politics of shops and businesses you use. Change to others if you can.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:47 AM
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10. Demonstrations and civil disobedience are pointlessly punitive
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 12:49 AM by End of all Hope
and will only make us look like fringe radicals with an ax to grind. We need to forcefully normalize our point of view; it's not the facts but how they are presented. Goddamn it, they are the radicals, not us.

Not just the people that represent us in Washington, but every single one of us needs to integrate this fight into our daily lives, proudly expressing our affiliation verbally, visually, fiscally, in every possible way. We do need to educate the public and remind them that we exist, we are normal people like everyone else, there are many of us, and we are not afraid.

Furthermore, we need to target the people who supported Bush and hit them where it hurts. it is easy to search on the internet for which specific areas put this bastard back in office, and to find his major corporate and private contributors. We could organize a list of these for a DU/progressive boycott, or some other form of action against them. Refusing to participate in the American economy at all as previously suggested is extremely difficult, but doing so selectively may send a very specific message, negatively reinforcing everyone who chose these bastards.

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MaraJade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:13 AM
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11. If there's a hell below. . .
we're gonna see it in this country. Just wait. Before the end of
2005, I'm predicting sit-ins, riots and demonstrations all over this
country...there'll be plenty of em, enough for all to join.

Stand by.
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