Has the state of Minnesota moved off this planet or just the

[clydefrand]

editor of the St. Paul Pioneer Press?



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041031/ap_on_el_pr/newspaper_endorsements&cid=694&ncid=2043



St. Paul Pioneer Press, St. Paul, Minn., endorsed Bush on Oct. 31:


"This is the George Bush (news - web sites) that we would like again to endorse, the president who will govern from the middle, who pursues policies that unite, rather than divide. The president who understands that tax cuts are not a gift from a generous government, but rather the results of a frugal government living within its means and taking less from its citizens as a result. The president who holds close to his heart the notions of smaller government, individual liberty and unfettered opportunity for all Americans."

WTF--DOES HE MEAN? FRUGAL GOVERNMENT...LIVING WITHIN ITS MEANS...SMALLER GOVERNMENT...POLICIES THAT UNITE NOT DIVIDE?

Are we even in the same country?

[Lindacooks]

1. St. Paul is a very liberal city

and this is going to hurt that paper BADLY.

I don't know what's wrong with those idiots, but I'm never buying a Pioneer Press again.

And I'm letting them know it.

[still_one]

2. drugs from the 60s

[cubsfan forever]

3. Hear, Hear! GOTV! n/t

Professor 2

[high density]

4. LOL..

I don't think this is the first "We're endorsing the Bush that we thought we were getting in 2000" sort of endorsement that Bush has gotten this year. They're admitting that they hate the guy and his policies, but for some reason they think he'll smarten up his act during second term and suddenly start governing like he promised to in 2000. Yeah, right!

[freetobegay]

5. They eat to much cheese.

[Mr_Spock]

6. Wow, just like them to EMPHASIZE their weaknesses - amazing!!

They think we're insanely stupid - a good punch in the nose would straighten his sorry ass out I bet.

[Longhorn]

7. I had to cancel a 30-year subscription to the Austin American-Statesman

for the same reason. I'm getting my first copy of the Sunday New York Times tomorrow. I guess the rest of my news is coming from television and one of the internets! ;)

[indigo32]

8. Oh now

the Strib has been VERY anti-Bush for months now.
The Pioneer Press is nuts.

[lakeguy]

9. our dem mayor in st. paul decided to endorse shrub too...

but now there is a recall effort under way. can we recall the pioneer press too?

[Raster]

10. just layin' the groundwork for going the coleman route...

[TransitJohn]

11. That's nothing.

Check this out, from the Casper Star-Tribune, Wyoming's only statewide paper. Surprisingly, it is very left.

Bush shows decisive leadership

In happier times, Americans have the luxury of letting many issues shape our presidential campaigns. Taxes. Domestic spending. Trade. Spotted owls.

But this year, with war abroad and the threat of terrorism at home, national security trumps all other subjects. For that reason, the Casper Star-Tribune gives its endorsement to George W. Bush. His vigorous, decisive approach is the right formula for the perilous times we inhabit.

*snip*

Granted, Kerry is attractive for his deliberative style. He seems more likely than Bush to build coalitions and take counsel from diverse viewpoints.

Yet Kerry's biggest strength may also be a weakness. Kerry's wavering position on the Iraq war, and his reluctance to employ military strength, create questions about his decisiveness in crisis.

Decisiveness is clearly Bush's advantage. He vigorously rallied the nation after 9-11, providing much-needed clarity of leadership. The invasion of Afghanistan, though risky, was clearly the right decision, and its result is a dawning of democracy in that long-troubled land.


http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2004/10/30/editorial/editorial/10abd7937a66837c87256f3b00719c7e.txt


:puke:

[clydefrand]

13. Oh, sure he was decisive. He only spent 7 f**ing minutes

waiting in a classroom while our people were getting blown to bits. Decisive hell! Impulsive, yes. They are not the same!!!

[DuaneBidoux]

22. Yea' he walked off a cliff, but it was a decisive walk!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. LOL! I knew they were gonna do it!

I predicted it in a post I made just a few minutes ago. What numbnuts! Here's what they said when they endorsed him in 2000:

"He has led his party smartly toward the political center on key issues....It is unlikely that in four years he could dislodge the Supreme Court majority supporting women's fundamental right to choose. We hope Bush will live up to his pledge that he will apply no abortion litmus test to court appointments....On national security and foreign policy, Gore has both the better grasp of future challenges and a more frank assessment of the price tag to taxpayers. Bush lacks direct experience. But his instincts seem serious and sane. His advisers in this area, beginning with vice presidential candidate Dick Cheney, are superb!"

Fuckwits. Don't they even read their own archives? But that rag is worthy only to line bird cages, they even have only one or two decent comic strips.

[Brucey]

15. Maybe they are trying to please their advertisers.

The St. Paul Pioneer Press is a conservative paper. They have been for a long time. Also, I don't agree that St. Paul is an especially liberal city. It tends toward moderate dems. Minneapolis, on the other hand, is liberal; there are no Repugs on the city council, all Dems, Indeps, or Greens. St. Paul is politically about moderate for a medium sized city in the northern USA. It used to be more liberal when labor unions had more members and clout, and when Catholics were more liberal (St. Paul has lots of Catholics). It is not at all surprising that the mayor of St. Paul (took over from Norm Coleman, a truly frightening, major, excessive, sleazy asshole) and the newspaper would endorse the shrub. The city itself should go slightly for Kerry. Minneapolis will go excessively for Kerry. The Iron Range, and a few pockets nortwest and southwest Minnesota will go for Kerry. The suburbs (very large) and the rural areas will go strong for shrub. It will be close in MN, but lets hope.

[jeffgad]

18. Well said, Brucey. Although you were far too polite to Norm.

[uppityperson]

14. He speaks the truth, he did unite us

against him. And the rest of the world against the USA. He speaks the truth and it is excused as a "bushism". That person is truly evil.

[jeffgad]

16. It's the gentrification of the state. It ain't like the old days.

Trust me, I've lived in Minneapolis most of my life. There are now a lot of Fortune 500 companies, etc., and there's been a huge influx of upper middle class families from all over. Like many other areas of the country, the Twin Cities are now filled with suburban-living, Republican-voting transferees more interested in their property taxes than social isssues.

[Deja Q]

17. I'm bookmarking this and waiting for pioneer press to call back.

I'll explain it to them that I want the fuckers never to call again. Again.

'Unfettered opportunity'?! What a crock of cattle cack, but I'm too tired to gnash into that atrocity of an endorsement.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

19. Here's the LTTE I just sent them:

They won't publish it -- it's too long -- but at least they can count me among the truly pissed off.

Dear Pioneer Press,

I wish I subscribed to your paper so I could have the satisfaction of canceling my subscription.

In 2000, when you endorsed George Bush, you said:

"He has led his party smartly toward the political center on key issues....It is unlikely that in four years he could dislodge the Supreme Court majority supporting women's fundamental right to choose. We hope Bush will live up to his pledge that he will apply no abortion litmus test to court appointments....On national security and foreign policy… his instincts seem serious and sane. His advisers in this area, beginning with vice presidential candidate Dick Cheney, are superb!"

Bush has done exactly the opposite of all those things, but, in an act of stunning irrationality, you endorsed him yet again. Insanity is sometimes defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Your endorsement proves this adage. Apparently you either don’t read your own archives, or you don’t read other news. Now you tell us:

"This is the George Bush that we would like again to endorse, the president who will govern from the middle, who pursues policies that unite, rather than divide. The president who understands that tax cuts are not a gift from a generous government, but rather the results of a frugal government living within its means and taking less from its citizens as a result. The president who holds close to his heart the notions of smaller government, individual liberty and unfettered opportunity for all Americans."

Hello? Govern from the middle? Bush follows a hard-right line dictated to him by neoconservative ideologues and fanatical Christian fundamentalists. Uniting rather than dividing? This country is as divided and angry as it was during the antiwar and civil rights movements of the ‘60s. Frugal government? What about that monstrous deficit – the most enormous deficit this country has ever seen, a deficit that is likely to cast a pall on the financial futures of our children and grandchildren? Individual liberty? Ever heard of the Patriot Act, which gives John Ashcroft the right to find out what books people read, to lock them up indefinitely without counsel, to enter their homes without their knowledge or a warrant? And unfettered opportunity! I suppose that would be opportunity to choose between unemployment and Wal-Mart because our jobs have been sent overseas?

I’m just gobsmacked. There are only two explanations for your endorsement of Bush – either you are living in an alternate universe or you have all gone stark, staring, barking mad.

[clydefrand]

21. Wonderful letter. Let us know if they publish it.

Our newspaper in Roanoke, VA endorsed Kerry!!!!!!!!!!!! And this is repug country.

[bushwakker]

20. when did fuckface do or believe any of those things?