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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:52 PM
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Are you nervous yet? Gertz to "break" news Russians moved the explosives!
LMAO!!!!!!!!


http://news.ft.com/cms/s/a4bc50c6-2870-11d9-9308-00000e2511c8.html

in a further development, John Shaw, a deputy under-secretary of defence, suggested that “Russian units” had transported the explosives out of the country.


According to Gertz:

John A. Shaw, the deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said in an interview that he believes the Russian troops, working with Iraqi intelligence, “almost certainly” removed the high-explosive material that went missing from the Al-Qaqaa facility, south of Baghdad.


LMAO!!!!
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:53 PM
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1. And then the Chechens stole it from the Russians......
....and drove to Mexico in their magic terra bus?
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:54 PM
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2. They're flailing man.
It's like watching an administration crumble right before your eyes.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:04 PM
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14. Kinda like 30 years ago in ..
1974 when nixon resigned?
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:54 PM
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3. How dare he assail on of *'s best friends country?
Why does he hate America!?
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:57 PM
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It says the pentagon is distancing itself from that..no proof at all for
the guys claims.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:57 PM
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4. If it comes from RevMoon's number one "son" Gertz, it is PROPAGANDA
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 09:58 PM by blm
to cover up for Bush, as usual.
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exliontamer Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:58 PM
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5. It's true!
They're keeping it all in a shed out behind Kamchatka.

There's also a riding lawn mower in there that used to belong to Pol Pot.
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Scoopie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:16 PM
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18. Oooohhhhh
is that the same tool shed that also houses Hitler's weed whacker and Mussolini's Lil Devil?
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:58 PM
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6. Of course, we'd never notice...
...the movement of Russian troops and equipment in the country we were invading/occupying, and if we did notice, we wouldn't say anything for more than a year, until after the Russian PM endorsed Bush. Yeah, whatever guys. REACHING. Hey, remember when all of Iraqs WMDs were trucked off to Syria? Yeah, we believe ya.
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exliontamer Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:13 PM
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17. No kidding.
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 10:14 PM by exliontamer
Every time over the past three years that an Iraqi goat has farted, we've scrambled jets.

But somehow the Russians secretly moved in a convoy of trucks and took 380 tons of TAGGED explosives.

Makes perfect sense, really.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:58 PM
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7. This problem must be very serious if they are making up shit like this
This is probably the worse mistake and blunder they could have made after starting this war. It has now come back to bite them.
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:58 PM
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8. I wonder if the Naked Emperor saw that comin'
you know, when he looked deep into Pooty-Poot's eyes a few years ago? If he knew Pooty-Poot was gonna swoop in and steal them dad-blamed explosives just to make him look bad?

He saw Pooty-Poot's soul, you know.
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Texas_Dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:59 PM
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9. No, wait. The mole people came up at night and took it to their cavern
underground. Good grief!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:44 PM
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24. Damn!! How could I have forgotten that!
It was the Morlocks!!
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:59 PM
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10. i'm willing to believe that russians took the explosives
though if they did, i have no doubt that said russians were not acting in accordance with official policy and that they are selling the explosives to the highest bidder.

in short, the product is in the open. why should it comfort us to know is distributing it? unless someone can FIND and ACCOUNT for ALL of it, then it remains a MAJOR shrub f*ckup.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:00 PM
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11. And Rummy stood by and said " things like this happen in a
democracy. That's just the same truck load of explosives you see over and over again on the satellite. There really was only one truck of explosives in all Iraq."
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:00 PM
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12. Ha ha ha ha. An administration disintegrating right before our eyes!
Spin, Bush, spin!
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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:02 PM
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13. Just like Saddam 'almost certainly' had WMD
We know the Russians have them. We know where they are.
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exliontamer Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:20 PM
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20. Well that fucking settles it!
Call the Coalition Of The Willing!
Tell the Eritrian Air Force to fire up their biplane!

It's all about Shock & Awe for Moscow baby!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:04 PM
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15. This is such a JOKE, folks! The RUSSIANS did this?????
COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:09 PM
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16. An arms race, a guerrilla war and a Cold W....er, Chilly War
What year is it again? If it were TRUE, it would be DISASTROUS foreign policy to announce it like this before exploring all the options. These ham handed Neanderthals are ALWAYS playing POLITICS with our security!!!!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:19 PM
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19. It was Bugs Bunny who stole them..
Think about it.. All it took was an underground tunnel, a bag of carrots and one wrong turn at Albuquerque. Bingo!
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:21 PM
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21. Looking forward to reading this first thing...
I love the smell of desperation in the morning. Smells like...victory.
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Steelangel Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:23 PM
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22. Little Red Riding Hood STOLE IT!!!!!!
Lurking freepers, for damn sake, GET REAL.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:24 PM
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23. How does * gain from this?
Or how was bush supposed to gain from this?

I don't see it, but this isn't a mistake, it was said to get play for a reason.

Or is the whole bush thing just falling apart?
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:46 PM
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25. FORGET ABOUT THE GOP'S SPIN..READ THE FACTS: link
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ciaobox Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:51 PM
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26. ROFLMAO
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/28/international/middleeast/28bomb.html?oref=login&oref=login
NYT just interviewed WITNESSES in Iraq that SAW the looting and notified our troops. Apparantly the brass thought the Oil Ministry was more important.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:02 PM
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27. Can you say, "Knife in the heart!"????
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 11:03 PM by Roland99
Looters stormed the weapons site at Al Qaqaa in the days after American troops swept through the area in early April 2003 on their way to Baghdad, gutting office buildings, carrying off munitions and even dismantling heavy machinery, three Iraqi witnesses and a regional security chief said Wednesday...

...Two witnesses were employees of Al Qaqaa - one a chemical engineer and the other a mechanic - and the third was a former employee, a chemist, who had come back to retrieve his records, determined to keep them out of American hands. The mechanic, Ahmed Saleh Mezher, said employees asked the Americans to protect the site but were told this was not the soldiers' responsibility.

The accounts do not directly address the question of when 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives vanished from the site sometime after early March, the last time international inspectors checked the seals on the bunkers where the material was stored. It is possible that Iraqi forces removed some explosives before the invasion.

But the accounts make clear that what set off much if not all of the looting was the arrival and swift departure of American troops, who did not secure the site after inducing the Iraqi forces to abandon it.
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