At this late date why are so many"undecideds" still saying * is "brave?"

[senseandsensibility]

We should have knocked this one out of the ballpark by now. We have SOOOO much ammunition. There is literally no evidence that * was ever brave at any time or in any situation, either before or after he was selected. And yet... you still get these swing voters or undecideds (yes! some polls put them at 10% even at this late date!), saying that * is "steadfast" or "has shown bravery" in the war on terror! Where is this coming from?

In my discussions with this type of voter during my canvassing, it seems to boil down to one thing: that ridiculous photo-op with the bullhorn right after 9-11. I always thought that was pathetic, and I clearly remember that it did not impress people immediately. Mark Shields thought it was unimpressive, and said so on Crossfire at the time. Novak didn't put up much of an argument at the time. But since then, my God, it's been turned into the bravest thing a President has ever done by our corporate media! AND THERE WAS NOTHING BRAVE ABOUT IT!! It was zero, nada, nothing.

Add this to his AWOL military career, and his fear of horses, and his fear of press conferences, and his fear of John Kerry, and what do you have? You have the chimp in chief: a total loser who let 9-11 happen on his watch and will not keep us safe. I'd really like to hear someone saying this. If Kerry loses (I don't think he will!) by one or two percentage points, it could be because of this myth, and we still have time to debunk it!

[DAGDA56]

1. You're right.,..the two things I keep hearing from otherwise resonable...

...people is the "bullhorn on the rubble" scene and the "first ball at Yankee Stadium" scene. That's it...when the disaster of the first debate was resonating thru his brain, my Freeper brother was clinging to those two images.

[senseandsensibility]

3. Yes

and I just don't get it. It literally makes no sense to me when people feel this way. Is that why our side is powerless to fight back against this feeling--because we don't understand what it is based on? Personally, I think the whole image of * as a brave leader is fake and spun into peoples' mind by the media. Naturally * voters, especially males, don't want to admit they've been fooled.

[lancdem]

2. If anyone thinks * is brave

they're not undecided, no matter what they claim.