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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:54 PM
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I am a little worried about the following. Please set me straight!
Thursday night I was watching BBC news and they had a room filled with undecided or independent voters (I don't know which as I kind of caught the end of it.) They asked everyone who they thought had won the debate and almost the whole room raised their hands. Then they asked them who they now plan to vote for and most of them raised their hands for Bush. It was totally strange and left me a little sick to my stomach. Now this new Zogby poll comes out and says that Bush has shored up his support among Republicans and independents. How on earth does someone win three debates then drop in support? Please show me some other polls that contradict Zogby and please tell me I missed an important part of that BBC broadcast. Sorry to bring this up but I need someone to ease my mind. Thanks
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:56 PM
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1. ABC-Wash Post poll shows 48-48. Debate changed nothing.
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:02 PM
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3. That's because half of the people in this country
are still as dumb as they were before the debates took place.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:59 PM
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2. The US has been killing lots of Iraqis. If you look back over the polls

you will see that his numbers consistently go up when US media reports "aggressive operations."

Massacre Bounce.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:21 PM
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6. 21 u.s. soldiers killed in the last 4 days
too bad the u.s. media isn't reporting that

http://icasualties.org/oif/Details.aspx

not that it compares to the number of iraqis killed in our attacks on 'insurgent strongholds'
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:46 PM
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8. Dead Iraqi Bounce?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:03 PM
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4. Bush Loves To Scare Weaklings
into believing he is the father figure, who like O'Reilly, is out there to "look out for us". They are both snake oil salesmen.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:17 PM
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5. It's because...
...the only message people have taken from the debates is "Kerry 'outs' Cheney's gay daughter!!!"

:-(
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ThePhilosopher04 Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:43 PM
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7. CNN had a focus group that was nearly the opposite...
showing more people breaking for Kerry. I believe the breakdown was 10 Kerry, 7 Bush, and 7 still undecided. The bottom line is, there will be variations from focus group to focus group, especially when we're talking about a divided country, so I wouldn't put much stock in that.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:02 AM
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10. Thank you that was what I was looking for!
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 11:50 PM
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9. Frank Luntz, the Republican spinmeister, "ran" the BBC group.
The outcome on that one was never in doubt. Luntz is a GOP operative that for some reason the "liberal" media uses without mentioning that fact.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:06 AM
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11. Thanks, that explains a lot! The audience was chery picked probably
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