Some Republican's Daughter (or, Lynne Cheney Can Bite My Ass)

[Plaid Adder]

Lynne Cheney, apparently, is now out there telling everyone it was mean and low of Kerry to bring up the fact that her daughter is a lesbian. Everyone from the HRC to Andrew Sullivan has responded that she's nuts. First of all, Mary Cheney is out and has been otu for years. Second, Lynne's own husband has been using Mary Cheney's homosexuality in speeches to try to make it look like at least ONE half of the ticket is something other than a rabid Christian fundamentalist. Third, Mary Cheney was brought up during the vice presidential debate...by the moderator, if I'm not mistaken. And fourth, and most obvious to everyone but Lynne...

CALLING SOMEONE A LESBIAN IS NOT AN 'ATTACK.'

Unless, of course, you are some kind of homophobe who believes that being a lesbian is the same thing as being a depraved pervert. Which Kerry is not, but which Lynne apparently is.

I'm really ready for this election to be done with. One of the reasons is that I have just about had it up to here with being a 'wedge issue.' This last piece of calculated manipulation is the last straw for me, and it's partly because it brings the whole thing closer to home than ever.

For you see, though I am not Mary Cheney (thank whatever the gods may be for that), I also have a Republican father. And, for a long time, I also had a mother who was ashamed to admit to anyone she knew that her daughter was a lesbian. After 10 years of being worked on by me, my partner, my siblings, and probably my father, my mother has finally come around. But there was a long period during which I was busy coming out to anyone I could find, but my mother was pretending that my sexuality was still a big secret. That pissed me off, and it pissed me off for a very simple reason: she might have thought, and she probably would have said, that she was keeping this 'secret' to protect me, but in fact she was keeping it to protect herself.

She didn't want to have to deal with what she thought she would have to deal with as the mother of a lesbian. She didn't want her friends talking about her 'misfortune' behind her back or pitying her for her terrible calamity. She didn't want to share the stigma she assumed I was living with.

If, at that point in time, my father had happened to be nominated as someone's vice presidential candidate, and the Democratic challenger had brought up the fact that he had a lesbian daughter during a nationally televised debate, my mother would have reacted exactly the same way Lynne Cheney says she did. And, and this is my point, she would have been wrong. Because at that point in time, the way she was treating me and my partner was doing me MUCH more damage than could ever have been done to me by having a man I didn't know tell everyone that I was just being who I was. I was in fact telling my mother the same exact thing constantly, but she didn't believe me.

My mother is now pleased to bring up my sexuality at any opportunity that presents itself--in large part because once she finally started telling people about me she discovered that in fact her friends didn't think it was a bad thing or that it reflected poorly on her. Since she herself is no longer ashamed of it, she also no longer feels that it's 'inappropriate' to discuss my orientation in public. And I'm sure she feels Kerry was within his rights to bring Mary Cheney up at the debate. In fact I expect to ahve a conversation with her about this very thing in the near future, since nwo that she has become a model of tolerance and open-mindedness, she never misses a chance to discuss sexual politics with me, alas.

My point is that the 'outcry' over the Mary Cheney reference, if in fact there is any real emotion behind it at all, is simply an expression of their own deep discomfort with the whole issue. They don't like having to confront the fact that the policy positions they take for their own political gain are hurting the people close to them. So their solution is to keep us all in the closet so they never have to think about that. All they are doing by manufacturing outrage over this is protecting themselves. It has got nothing to do with protecting Mary Cheney.

As for my Republican father, he fortunately has no political ambitions. Because I love him and I respect his integrity, I might well campaign for him if he ran for something, despite being on the other side of most of the issues. But by the same token, because he loves me and respects my marriage, he would not endorse that fucking amendment, no matter how many handlers told him to do it.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. The religious right, in cooperation with their creature George W. Bush, are the ones who made same-sex marriage a national issue by pushing that amendment. They are the ones who turned all of our private lives into political fodder. I cannot even tell you how destructive this whole thing has been to us psychologically. Until you've done it, you cannot imagine what it's like to have to turn on the news and see people you don't know trying to convince other people you dont' know that you and your partner are a social menace that needs to be curbed, contained, and if possible eliminated. It is unbelievably infuriating to watch a bunch of straight people who are utterly without a clue about what it is really like to be gay debating the validity of the most important relationship in your life as if it were an abstract issue. You go through four years of having the woman you love turn to you and ask, "Why do people hate us so much?" and not being able to answer, and then maybe you'll understand me when I say that I have no fucking time to weep over Lynne Cheney's outraged sensibilities. If Lynne really wants to help her daughter then she should get her husband the puppet master to put the kaibash on that fucking amendment. Till then, well, she can go Cheney herself.

It drives me absolutely nuts to see the Republicans getting bent out of shape over this, as if Mary Cheney deserves to be protected from all the ugliness that their own party has unleashed just because she's a Republican's daughter. I'm a Republican's daughter too, Lynne. That hasn't stopped your husband and his cronies from making my life hell to the extent that they can. You and Dick helped build this horrible world. Mary can take her chances in it just like the rest of us.

Faugh,

The Plaid Adder

[Owlet]

1. Great Post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

..and as far as I'm concerned, the last word on the matter.

:yourock:

[sisenor]

47. BUT THINK OF THIS TOO: Gay issue deflects attention from OBL

THE GAY STORY IS WHAT Reps ARE WANTING TO MONOPOLIZE the media with today, so that less time will be spent on Bush's total fuck-up saying that he didn't think much about OSAMA anymore. All day long we heard about this fucking lesbian comment, and what lost out was coverage on Bush's TOTAL FLIP-FLOP ON HIS "STRONGEST" ISSUE: TERRORISM.

Lynn Cheney going hysterical was a smoke screen, but the media got the woolly pulled over their eyes yet again.

[DemBones DemBones]

54. I think the media collaborated in the wool-pulling, probably

sacrificed the sheep themselves.

[VoteJohn04_com]

55. I've been saying that since last night! :)

It is being used as a smoke screen to hide the fact that
the Shrub FLAT OUT LIED TO AMERICA ON NATIONAL TELEVISION...AGAIN!

I'm really annoyed at the media for allowing the republicans
to monopolize the airwaves with this bullsh*t about Cheney's
daughter.

As stated quite well above... IT WASN'T AN ATTACK!

Can you imagine what was going through Cheney's, Rove's,
Rice's, even poor Laura's heads when Bush let that whopper
of a lie go! :)

Like a credit card commercial... PRICELESS!

[kostya]

56. HIT THE CNN Poll on whether Kerry went too far

in mentioning Cheney's daughter. It needs some help: www.cnn.com

[fudge stripe cookays]

2. Very well said, Plaid.

I'm straight, but I do whatever I can to support my gay friends. And I'm sick of this shit as well.

FSC

[Not Me]

Extremely well put...but let me add

Lynne Cheney, apparently, is now out there telling everyone it was mean and low of Kerry to bring up the fact that her daughter is a lesbian. Everyone from the HRC to Andrew Sullivan has responded that she's nuts. First of all, Mary Cheney is out and has been otu for years. Second, Lynne's own husband has been using Mary Cheney's homosexuality in speeches to try to make it look like at least ONE half of the ticket is something other than a rabid Christian fundamentalist. Third, Mary Cheney was brought up during the vice presidential debate...by the moderator, if I'm not mistaken. And fourth, and most obvious to everyone but Lynne...


By virtue of Mary Cheney officially joining the campaign, she is fair game.

[annxburns]

3. Exactly right

The only reason this bothers Lynn Cheney is she either hasn't accepted her daughter or is selling her out to the right wing. Either one is repulsive.

Some reporter should ask her "Why didn't you want Kerry to bring it up? Are you ashamed of the fact that she is gay?"

[displacedtexan]

4. You've done it again, Plaid Adder!

You always manage to grasp my heartstrings with your words and inspire me to take action against those who crave the oppression of others!

[quaoar]

5. God bless you, Plaid Adder

The one flickering spark of humanity in the jet-black soul of Dick Cheney is the way he has (sort of) supported Mary. Alan Keyes, OTOH, is a disgrace as a father.

[Inland]

6. Who are the pubbies angry at? Kerry or their own right wing?

Polite republicans try to keep their families out of politics out of fear of their own right wing. They know that their families have gays, abortion and drug abusers. They know that such is the fodder for hatred in the social movemement conservatives. They are scared to death. But they can't blame their own right wing (or they would be democrats) so they blame those who mention that republcians have families too. Disgusting.

[fishface]

7. Hey Lynn..she's your daughter, she's lesbian, get used to it.

Maybe you can use her as inspiration for your next tawdy lesbian novel.

[Jacobin]

8. May I say, that

you are one HELL of a writer!!

Extremely well written, convincing, TRUE, eloquent, logical....all the things the RWers freak out about.

Thanks for putting this whole thing COMPLETELY in perspective.

:toast:

[crispini]

9. clap clap clap clap clap clap clap n/t

[David__77]

10. My GOP co-worker just said that...

...it lacked "class." I'm certain this is a talking point. She disagreed that her being a lesbian is a "deep, dark secret," but just thought that it was inapproriate to bring a specific person up. I happen to think there's nothing wrong with this. The "second family" includes a lesbian, and enlightened people see nothing wrong in talking about it in a positive way.

[Catfight]

17. Respond: Bush's Hate of the Union Speech called gays sinners.

In reality, he called Dick Cheney and Lynn Cheney's daughter, Mary, a sinner in front of the entire world. Bush supports intolerance and hate, he can run but he cannot hide!

[sisenor]

41. CAN WE GET A LINK TO THIS SPEECH?

Gracias.

[Ducks In A Row]

29. ask your co-worker why it was ok for Alan Keyes to attack Mary

the cheneys didn't do anything to defend or protect their daughter from gay-bashing, but saying something NICE is horrible?

[AspenRose]

35. For real

I mean honestly: Being upset because Kerry said "We're all God's children?!?" Keyes has said much worse.

How warped is THAT?

[Norquist Nemesis]

11. Nominated!

Everyone needs to read this. *standing ovation*

[henslee]

12. Glad he used the word lesbian and not gay. It just puts the issue out

there in all its honesty, no bones about it. And this issue is so much bigger than the Cheney's. Though Lynn probably doesn't think so.

[quaoar]

16. I really think that's why the RW is going ballistic

Because Kerry said "lesbian." If he had said "gay," they wouldn't be reacting. Republicans have gotten more comfortable with using "gay" but they can't bring themselves to say "lesbian."

[Catfight]

13. BRAVO! I'm sending this to my father! Hugs Adder!

[Cha]

14. Thanks for your interesting story, Plaid.

WE need to expose these hypocrites for what they are.

I'll tell you what a "bad man" is..It's someone who would send our sons and daughters to die in a "war" for profit based on Lies coming from dick and bush's mouth.

[readmylips]

15. Lesbian at the White House, not the same as...

bush hooches at the White House. Maybe Kerry should have mentioned the hooches instead. Kerry was very nice to the hooches, almost compared them to his own daughters.

The bottom line is that Lynn Cheney is in denial. She wants her daughter to be a lesbian at home, behind closed doors. That's their problem and not Kerry's. Kerry mentioned Mary the same way he mentions the Edwards kids.

[Hello_Kitty]

18. Thanks for your great post and I'm glad your mom came around. n/t

[oly]

19. Must have been (and is) hell for Mary -- not being accepted

by Dick and Lynne.

[MISSDem]

20. I agree with you totally but, as I said in another post,

some people think it is an insult. A person wrote a letter to the editor of the paper that I read saying that when he mentioned that Mary was gay, John Edwards was a "slimeball" for "embarrassing" the Cheneys. These are the folks who are homophobic and need to get a life.

[MockSwede]

21. Level headed

Thanks for taking time to write the above so well. One human being communicating so thoughtfully to many. I felt like I was sitting down at kitchen table listening to a friend. Hope that my 13 and 16 year old kids can grow up to be like you are. One hell of a daughter.

[hippiegranny]

22. Testify, sister!

Kerry didn't bring it up like it was a BAD thing, he was matter of fact. The Cheneys are the ones who are making Mary sound like she needs to be protected. Which is rather ironic as we are the one remaining minority who is completely unprotected when it comes to jobs, housing, civil rights, etc etc.

[noonriser]

23. Brought tears to my eyes

Fabulous post, very eloquent. Thanks so much!

[archineas]

24. thank you

as a gay american with a mother who is just like this as well, thank you for those words.

j

[Droopy]

25. Nicely done, Plaid Adder

From a straight person who's got a clue.

[blondi]

26. Please consider this a standing ovation.

I'm straight, not that there's anything wrong with that, and I live in a rural part of our nation's heartland. One of the negatives of living in a part of the country that has some great positives is that my school friends who are gay were very in the closet during school and, apparently, felt they had to leave the state to live their lives. These were good people, and their departure takes color out of my life. If only people weren't so afraid, distrustful, unaware, or whatever it is about homosexuality. Why can't people just live and let live?

I agree Kerry's statement was made in a positive way, and I am sorry for Cheney's daughter that her mother's reaction to the statement was to declare Kerry was not a good man. Would she also have been "an indignant mother" if Kerry had said her daughter was blonde, or a woman, or short?

[Hard Attack]

27. Cheney Family Made $$$ off of Lesbian Sex Book

Cheney Family Made $$$ off of Lesbian Sex Book, called Sisters, written about 25 years ago.

The book that they have successfully kept hush hush, lets open it up gang... Here are some details...

http://www.hardnewsnow.com/sisters.html

Family Values,,,, Hmmm.

[mcg]

28. Lynn Cheney wrote a lesbian noval called 'Sisters'

Lynn Cheney wrote a lesbian noval called 'Sisters'.

<http://groups.msn.com/LesbianLinks/sisterscheneysleznovel.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=118>

<http://www.livejournal.com/~lynnecheney/>

<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0451112040/qid=1097784605/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-9696092-4437630?v=glance&s=books&n=507846>

I wonder if Bill O'Reilly has a copy.

<http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/entnews/ap/20040402/108095982000.html>

'A publisher has canceled plans to reissue a racy novel by Lynne Cheney, wife of Vice President Dick Cheney, after she said the book did not represent "her best work."

New American Library, an imprint of Penguin Group (USA), was going to reprint "Sisters," a historical romance published in 1981 that includes brothels, attempted rapes and a lesbian love affair.

"We felt interest was growing because it was an election year and we decided it could be a timely book," Liz Perl, executive director of publicity at New American Library, told The Associated Press on Friday. '

[SoCalDemocrat]

30. Sisters - A Book By Lynne Cheney

Sisters - A Book By Lynne Cheney

If you look around hard enough on the Web you find some humorous stuff. Everyone knows that our Vice President, Dick Cheney, has a lesbian daughter, Mary, about whom he rarely speaks openly even though the poor girl has to work for his re-election committee. But did you know that Dick’s wife Lynne, wrote a sizzling western novel called “Sisters” which is filled with hot, steamy stuff like lesbian love, prostitution and rape, and supports a sweeping pro-feminist agenda?

The protagonist, Sophie Dymond, is obviously bisexual as she makes love to her deceased sister’s former boyfriend (outside of marriage I might add), and doesn’t shy away from sex with women either.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4615911/site/newsweek/

Written in 1981, it probably had an effect on the Cheney daughter, and helps explain some things for me at least.. So Dick Cheney's wife is a freak!

April 5 issue - In 1981, long before her husband was elected vice president, Lynne Cheney wrote "Sisters," a steamy bodice-ripper set in the 19th-century American West, featuring vivid tales of whorehouses, attempted rapes, a suspicious murder and several lesbian love affairs, of which Cheney writes approvingly. The paperback, published in Canada, has been out of print for nearly two decades.

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But on April 6 the book is scheduled to be released for the first time in the United States. Many of the novel's most lurid details have already been unearthed on the Internet and by gay-rights activists, who believe Cheney's treatment of lesbian relationships in the book is at odds with the Bush administration's stance against gay marriage. (Cheney's been silent about gay marriage, although her daughter Mary is openly gay.) For example, in the book a woman says of her female lover: "How well her words describe our love—or the way it would be if we could remove all impediments, leave this place and join together. Then our union would be complete. Our lives would flow together, twin streams merging into a single river."

[DinahMoeHum]

32. Randi Rhodes reads excerpts from the book on occasion.

It's a real pisser.

:evilgrin:

[nyhuskyfan]

31. I was disappointed to read this...

As a straight male who has recently discovered your writing, it's a bit of a bummer to find out that you are both lesbian AND taken. One or the other would have been tough, but both is truly a knockout punch.

Oh well. The search goes on :-).

P.S. Great job -- as usual.

[deadparrot]

33. Nice to hear from someone who's been there. Thanks.

[Political_Junkie]

34. Thank you, Plaid.

You brought tears to my eyes, but I'll forgive you. :)

[arewenotdemo]

36. beautifully put

nt

[sangh0]

37. bush* said "I don't think about OBL much"

so why are we talking about lesbians?

Whenever someone mentions something about a lesbian to you, start talking about how bush* forgot about how he forgot about OBL. Don't talk about Mary Cheney. There's no votes in that. Talk about how bush* denied that he said he didn't think about OBL very much.

[huskerlaw]

38. Thank you!!

I've been debating this issue with one of my republican friends all day, and was running out of ways to say, "But calling someone a lesbian isn't attacking them." I sent your article to her and she has conceded the point.

I enjoy all of your articles, and as usual, you hit the nail on the head. I consider myself fairly adept at arguing against Bush & Co, but your ability to articulate the numerous reasons why the Bushies are inept idiots never ceases to amaze me. Thank you!

[zoeb]

39. Lesbian Smesbian....

Well, I think we can all agree that the Cheney's outrage may be a bit selective.

How dare a democrat, presidential candidate use their daughter to answer a sensitive question about homosexuality in a presidential debate. How dare they bring up a daughter they are so, "proud of," in a public arena. How dare they.... How dare they...

According to Mary Matlin, "This is a cheap, political attack."

I agree with them. This is a cheap, political attack but not by democrats but by Mary Cheney's family!

My question is to the Cheneys, where in the hell was the outrage when your President supported a constitutional amendment limiting your daughter's rights as a citizen? Please tell us, where was your outrage then?

If nothing else, last night's debates tells me never to ask straight people about gay people and never, ever let straight people defend gay folk even if they are family.

[evilqueen]

40. *applause*

Well said!

[sisenor]

42. I agree with everyone here.

The twisted logic behind this "holier that thou" outrage by Lynn Cheney and the Republican spinners is ridiculous.

If it is ok to have a frank question over homosexuality, why is it not ok to actually speak of someone who is gay?

As Ted Devine said today (in a good switch from playing defense to playing offense, I might add) The republicans are simply focusing on this because the debates gave them nothing to promote their guy.

[Raster]

43. It's RAD to be PLAID!!!

Well said, my lesbian friend.

It's only a problem with Mrs. Darth Cheney when she wants to make a problem out of it. She's just pissed because pickles gets to live in the big house and she has to make do with the undisclosed bunker. It's not our fault Darth wanted to be the "Shadow President." It's not our fault he's too evil to be front man. And it's not our fault your daughter is a lesbian. Look on the bright side honey, you could have had the bush twins for daughters. They're drunken nymphomaniacs that would fuck anything for a beer.
Lighten up!

[goodboy]

44. Didn't Lynne write a steamy, homo-erotic story? just askin' (nt)

[goodboy]

48. self delete....

[LittleClarkie]

45. Hey, Plaid, love your sig picture

But you missed a spot.

(gets out blue marker) There, that's better.

Hope springs eternal.

[cal04]

46. Counterspin Central

WHERE WAS LYNNE CHENEY: When Alan Keyes said Mary Cheney was practicing "selfish hedonism?"

She had a chance to directly respond to what Keyes said, but let her other daughter do the talking instead.

BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Lynne Cheney my guest now here in New York, along with her daughter, Liz.
HEMMER: I want to talk to Liz a second here and talk about your family.

Almost every interview you've done lately, this issue comes up. You have an openly gay sister. Her name is Mary. The reason I'm bringing it up, today, is because there was news on this issue last night.

Alan Keyes, who is here in New York as well, running for the Senate in Illinois, referred to Mary based on his definition, about how he sees gays in America as a selfish hedonist.

When you hear those words, how do you react?

LIZ CHENEY, DAUGHTER OF DICK CHENEY: I guess I'm surprised, frankly, that you would even repeat the quote, and I'm not going to dignify it with a comment?

HEMMER: Not even want to touch it, today?

L. CHENEY: It doesn't deserve a comment.

HEMMER: I know as a family you have always said, and you've said publicly, that you're OK with it, and you talk about it freely and openly. But this is something you don't want to address? Is that what you're...

L. CHENEY: No, I think that, you know, my father addressed the issue very plainly and very clearly. And, you know, what I like, though, my dad said frankly was how proud he is of both Mary and me, how much my parents, you know, take pride in both of our accomplishments.

[StElsewhere]

49. File Lynne Cheney's Remarks

Under the heading: Fake Outrage.

[kokomo]

50. K/E should have left that topic lay. Pubes getting mileage big time

I have seen Lynne Cheney call Kerry "not a good man" "cheap tawdry political trick" every HALF HOUR ALL DAY LONG today on cablenews, especially CNN and I don't even watch Fox! For the millions watching baseball last night, they only hear the Cheneys today.

Did these remarks really do the Democrats any good? Edwards already got blasted last week, so why did Kerry need to repeat it? The Cheneys already told us Mary was a gay and we know they are hypocritical, using Mary to court the gay vote, then shuffling her back into the closet. I think the Democrats should let the Republicans have to deal with Ms. Cheney. We can accept her...they can't.

[feistydem]

51. Excellently put. Thanks for writing it with such sincerity.

[Zero Division]

52. Most Republicans see it as "politicking". Why? Because to them...

there is no human dimension to GLBT rights. They can't imagine that anyone would actually see the fight for GLBT rights as a sincere struggle for the justice and happiness of fellow human beings. Because of their bigotry and/or blind adherence to religious dogma they can only see what Kerry did and what all non-GLBT people do for GLBT rights as a cynical ploy for political gain.

[madrchsod]

53. well said as usual..

that you for sharing....

[muchacho]

57. I agree

I had this discussion with friends and made the case that the Reps made an issue of using homosexuality as a wedge issue. The Dems have every right to take on that issue and prove that they are for tolerance.

[tkmorris]

58. Nominated for front page

It was obvious to me that the Cheney's reaction to Kerry's mention of their daughter said more about them than it did about Kerry but I have been unable to put into words WHY, at least to my own satisfaction.

Perhaps it is because I am not the lesbian daughter of a parent that struggled to accept that, and struggled to understand how such a revelation would be treated by her friends. In any case PA you summed it up. You usually do; whatever you write about you have a talent for getting right to the heart of the matter and explaining it in ways many of us but wish we had thought of.

Thank you Ms. Adder. Tell your partner she's one lucky lady IMHO.

[Danger Duck]

59. How can everyone here be so blind

and not understand why this is upsetting to people? It's not that being a lesbian is a bad thing, it's just that Kerry is referencing someone's child for his own gain. It would be no different if he started talking about the crippled child of some other senator in reference to stem cell research. Frankly, I'd be pissed if someone mentioned my children in any capacity in this sort of situation. As a parent, you don't want someone else speaking for your children, especially someone who is your opponent. Especially in regards to their sexuality. Call a spade a spade boys and girls. It was a foolish move on Kerry's part, and it's time to move on.

Oh, and hey, this whole amendment nonsense will never happen. Never. It's called pandering. Relax.

[grumpy old fart]

61. Relax? Never in the face of bigotry

Cheny himself has used his daughter to attmept to portray himself as less than the Darth Cheney we all know and loathe. And as for "relaxing" over Bush's attmept to amend bigotry into our Constitution, we should never give a pass to those who hate. It just encourages them.
http://oldfartravings.blogspot.com/

[sonias]

60. Thank you Plaid Adder!

As usual great writing and good insight. I didn't want to feel bad for our side if we were playing dirty, not at the expense of our gay and lesbian community. I think you're absolutely right about Lynne. I remember during the 2000 election that she didn't even want to admit she had a lesbian daughter during some interview. Lynne is still in denial about Mary. I feel so sorry for Mary because of her family situation. On the other hand, I don't consider her a weakling. She did work for Coors in outreach efforts to the gay community for the company. She should be very experienced in dealing with this kind of behavior. She can do a lot to stop this "phony outrage" by calling on her parents to stop calling attention to it. They are after all using their own daughter as a campaign prop. She should stand up, speak up and defend herself. If she really wants John Kerry to apologize, I'm sure he would do it. end of story, end of outrage.


Sonia

[cubsfan forever]

62. Thank you for telling the truth about

corporate media and the wing-nuts of the far right. Cheney's daughter put herself out in the public arena, and the QUESTION from the moderator was about whether or not homosexuality is a choice.

Besides, John Edwards complimented Cheney in the same way and was given the only sincere smile by Cheney of the whole evening's debate.

Professor 2