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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:03 PM
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CNN was just now showing the latest
ad about Kerry's saying the terrorists are nuiasances.
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:04 PM
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1. Pointless
What is the point of showcasing that comment? They are a global nuisance.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:07 PM
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5. Nuisance!!! Just a nuisance!!!
Pull yourself together!!! They are the greatest threat ever in the history of mankind. A greater threat than the USSR, Nazi Germany and the Mongol Horde combined! Don't you see that we all have to live in fear of them for our own safety, or else they might achieve their goals!

We can't stop them because they hate us because of our freedom, so we have to do whatever is necessary to protect ourselves; like giving up all our rights!

Some people are just so ignorant! And you're one of them! You say nuisance, I say Islamo-Fascist provocateurs (I hate French, but it's the only word I could come up with) of WWIII and WWIV and WWV!!!!

AAAAAAHHHHH!!!
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endnote Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 11:03 PM
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17. Lakoff has been advising Kerry!
Long ago he told Kerry NOT to talk about the WAR ON TERROR. Talk instead of terrorists. A small group of them. Even if there are a few thousands, that is a small number, in the big picture. A nuisance.
Kerry should use the line: In the US, we have hundred of million people. How can we be scared of a few thousand individuals ? Something like that.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:05 PM
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2. What, exactly, did they say? And which CNN?
HEadline news?
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:13 PM
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9. Just regular CNN news with Carol Lin? I believe
She and Bill Schneider were telling how quickly the ad appeared after the article just appeared today. And they showed it as well.

I predict that our guys will have an ad out tomorrow to counteract it. I hope it makes use of all those stupid, idiotic statements that Bush has made.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:06 PM
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3. they WILL be a nuisance .....
by the time Kerry, with a strong international alliance get through with them.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:07 PM
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4. What's the context of this quote?
Because the DNC could easily make up an ad with Bush saying that the world would be better off if Saddam Hussein was still in power.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:09 PM
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6. Kerry said...
that we need to get back to a world where terrorism is simply
a nuisance.

The Shit Squad interprets this as saying that terrorists are only
nuisances.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:20 PM
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10. Thanks Teaser and Roland99
I figured the GOP was just acting stupid again. :crazy:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:10 PM
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7. Here's the context
The article, a largely analytical cover story in the magazine, says the interviewer asked Kerry "what it would take for Americans to feel safe again."

''We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance,'' the article states as the Massachusetts senator's reply.



And, yeah, I'd LOVE to see the DNC use that Bush quote out of context.

Fight fire with fire!!!!
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:12 PM
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8. Kerry already has a response ad...
called "Can't win" using bush's "can't win the war on terror quote"
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My Pet Goat Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:33 PM
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11. That's a great response...
Edited on Sun Oct-10-04 09:42 PM by My Pet Goat
if the Kerry quote out of context is damaging then Bush stating that the war on terror can't be won is absolutely damming.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 12:48 AM
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19. I would prefer one using "things would be easier if I was dictator"
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:34 PM
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12. Carol "Kerry shot his wad at his convention" Lin strikes again
I still can't believe she said that on air.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:41 PM
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13. Compared to global warming or even the collapsing healthcare system
Terrorism actually effects us very little. Far more people are killed by the slow motion terrorism of out weak gun regulations.
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siliconefreak Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 09:47 PM
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14. Absolutely
Not to mention the 40,000 American who die from car accidents every year. That's like having a 9/11 every month.
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California Griz Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 10:52 PM
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15. Or
the 30,000 who get killed by guns yearly.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 11:03 PM
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16. One of they key parts of the article...
The difference between the two men was clear during the foreign-policy debate in Florida 10 days ago. Kerry seemed dominant for much of the exchange, making clear arguments on a range of specific challenges -- the war in Iraq, negotiations with North Korea, relations with Russia. But while Kerry bore in on ground-level details, Bush, in defending his policies, seemed, characteristically, to be looking at the world from a much higher altitude, repeating in his brief and sometimes agitated statements a single unifying worldview: America is the world's great force for freedom, unsparing in its use of pre-emptive might and unstinting in its determination to stamp out tyranny and terrorism. Kerry seemed to offer no grand thematic equivalent.

To me, Bush coming from the ideological standpoint is what has caused the failure to find bin Laden and the failure of judgment to ignore Al Qaeda and, instead, divert into Iraq, spreading our military dreadfully thin. It's time for pragmatism, not ideology. Hit terrorism at the root and not picking off the leaves one-by-one with bombs and bullets.


One other point I found very interesting:

In 1988, Kerry successfully proposed an amendment that forced the Treasury Department to negotiate so-called Kerry Agreements with foreign countries. Under these agreements, foreign governments had to promise to keep a close watch on their banks for potential money laundering or they risked losing their access to U.S. markets. Other measures Kerry tried to pass throughout the 90's, virtually all of them blocked by Republican senators on the banking committee, would end up, in the wake of 9/11, in the USA Patriot Act; among other things, these measures subject banks to fines or loss of license if they don't take steps to verify the identities of their customers and to avoid being used for money laundering.

Seems Kerry really was ahead of the game, in that respect. But his efforts were thwarted by Republicans.
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Harlan James Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 12:29 AM
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18. Read the article for the correct context
In context Kerry was talking about reducing terrorism to the level of international nuisance. They aren't going away, there will always be terrorists, always have. But properly handled they can become only a minor concern, and not the terrible problem they became under the misrule of Bush.


The Little President. He's mad.
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