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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:17 AM
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Jobs report - another nail in the coffin?
Wow, 96,000 jobs. That is fucking pathetic (excuse my French)

Technically speaking, in basic economic terms, it is a net loss of at least 54,000 jobs, as our population is growing and at least 150K new people enter the workforce each month.

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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 08:20 AM
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1. I'm puzzled
about this report.

I expected the books to be cooked in Dubya's favor in a big, big way to make him look better before the election.

The scariest thought?

What if the 96,000 IS the COOKED number?
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:07 AM
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2. I was thinking that as well.
What will be the revised lower number next month???
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 09:09 AM
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3. AA just announced 883,000 jobs lost
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:06 AM
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4. GOP's favorite jobs report, the household survey, shows 585000 jobs lost
Household Jobs show disaster-labor force drops 1 million, job loss of 585K

The GOP's favorite DOL jobs number, the Household survey number, shows bigger Job disaster than shown in the anemic 96,000 jobs gain in the payroll survey jobs number. The Household Survey reports 201,000 lost jobs in September since 139,681,000 were "seasonal adjusted" employed in Aug less 139,480,000 of Seasonal adjusted folks Employed in Sept., and that is a drop of 201,000 jobs. If you prefer numbers that are not seasonally adjusted, then 140,226,000 less 139,641,000, or 585,000 jobs were lost in Sept.

And that Steady 5.4% Unemployment rate is based on folks no longer being in the labor pool and therefore not counted as unemployed. The seasonal adjusted change is from 147,704,000 looking for work or employed in August to 147,483,000 looking for work or employed in Sept, or 221,000 folks dropped out. If you like non-seasonally adjusted numbers, then 148,166,000 less 147,186,000, or a huge 980,000 folks stopped looking for work or being employed in Sept.

NEARLY ONE MILLION FOLKS STOPPED LOOKING FOR WORK OR BEING EMPLOYED IN SEPTEMBER!!!!





http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsatabs.htm

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Series Id: LNS12000000Seasonal AdjustedSeries title: (Seas) Employment LevelLabor force status: EmployedType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 138566 138301 138298 138576 138772 139031 139660 139681 139480



Series Id: LNU02000000Not Seasonally AdjustedSeries title: (Unadj) Employment LevelLabor force status: EmployedType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 136924 137384 137691 138423 138867 139861 140700 140226 139641



Series Id: LNS11000000Seasonal AdjustedSeries title: (Seas) Civilian Labor Force LevelLabor force status: Civilian labor forceType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 146863 146471 146650 146741 146974 147279 147856 147704 147483


Series Id: LNU01000000Not Seasonally AdjustedSeries title: (Unadj) Civilian Labor Force LevelLabor force status: Civilian labor forceType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 146068 146154 146525 146260 146659 148478 149217 148166 147186


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PAYROLL SURVEY 96,000 NEW JOBS IN SEPTEMBER

Series Id: CES0000000001Seasonally AdjustedSuper Sector: Total nonfarmIndustry: Total nonfarmNAICS Code: N/AData Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 130194 130277 130630 130954 131162 131258 131343 131471(p) 131567(p)

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