John F. Kennedy killed by CIA agents? (theory)

[lovuian]

http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/19-05-2006/80596-Kennedy-0

Douglas Horn, the former chief analyst of U.S. Congress on the Kennedy case, took part in the conference. He was among other experts calling the official version of the tragedy into question. The participants will include the historian from Minnesota James Fetzer, and the specialist in radioactive oncology David Mantic. Thomas Lipscomb, a well-known U.S. author, is expected to unveil more data indicating discrepancies in evidence used by the Warren Commission, which was set up by President Johnson to investigate Kennedy’s murder. In particular, Lipscomb is reported to have found evidence showing that the famous amateur footage (by Abraham Zapruder who happened to witness the assassination) was obviously cropped away by some unknown party.

Some of the participants of the conference have information showing that the 26-second footage filmed by Zapruder on 8 mm camera is just one of eight existing amateur documentaries on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. However, with the help of some interested party, Zapruder’s short film became the main piece of material evidence for the Warren Commission
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The participants will reportedly present new data to support the version about the “CIA conspiracy.” According to the theory, CIA agents might have replaced Kennedy’s brain with that of another person during the president’s autopsy
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It would be interesting to see if the Kennedy DNA matched wouldn't it...

[Syrinx]

1. does this have anything to do with Thom Hartmann?

I heard him talking on the radio about similar things. He was basically promoting a Discovery Channel show that he produced (or wrote, or something) that was going to air. I intended to watch it, but missed it unfortunately.

[rooboy]

4. Hartmann's research indicated that it was Mafia who moonlighted for CIA...

which is partly why Bobby Kennedy et al worked to keep it a secret. The gangsters were part of a team assembled by the CIA to try and assassinate Castro, but they got orders from their Mafia bosses to whack JFK. Apparently if word got out that the US was planning to kill Castro it would possibly have triggered WWIII with the Russians, so everything had to be kept quiet.

I haven't read Hartmann's book, but it's 900 pages with over 2000 footnotes... they apparently even interviewed one member of the assassination squad who pretty much corroborated what they'd researched (Harry Ruiz Williams was his name, if I recall correctly).

[Syrinx]

5. thanks for the information!

I will try to catch a replay on Discovery, and Hartmann's book too!

[rman]

6. The Mafia did not have the means to cover it up,

neither did the Cubans or the Communists.

- to change the route a few days in advance
- to order multiple security stand-downs (open windows along the route, stand-down of body guards just moments before entering the kill-zone, standdown of additional military security)
- to fix the autopsy results
- to get the MSM to cooperate with the coverup
and then some.

See Oliver Stone's "JFK".

Both this Russian piece and Hartman's book are at best sub-plots of what Stone revealed in "JFK".

[bridgit]

2. old news, make that an alloy of CIA, mafia & oil companies...

and i'll stop betting 'even money'...

[Midnight Rambler]

3. Bullshit. Everyone knows it was LBJ

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[pretzel4gore]

7. lee oswald was an active duty US gov agent

he was set up to be blamed for the murder......how do americans put up with this! to damn someone who was in effect, a soldier or police officer, as the perpetrator of the most cruel political murder in world history (and being undercover ONI, couldn't say anything beyond the 'hey, i'm a patsy') oswald was 24 at time of assasination; he'd be retiring now if the punks never killed him ...jehoover and the dulles brothers, herman kahn and arlen spector, mcgeorge bundy and william colby, angleton, john mccone etc all died in their beds, while soldier oswald remains TO THIS DAY out there damned as the murderer of one of the most beloved presidents in US history!
shame

[BlueIris]

8. Ya think? :-)

You have much to learn, grasshopper. Have fun...

[maine_raptor]

9. "The CIA"?????

First off there is no "CIA". That is if you are talking about a monolithic organization.

Within that agency, like other intelligence communities around the world, there are many different political views. Not all agree.

Second, if "The CIA" could not keep quiet such "simple" operations as lifting a Russian sub from the ocean floor or opening the mail of American citizens sending and receiving mail from foreign lands (1950's, see Church Committee Report), what make you think "The CIA" could keep quiet, after all these years, something considerably more complex and earthshaking as the assassination of a US President?

As for the "Mob" not having the ability to pull off the cover-up, as a poster above me indicated, who says they would have to have the pull in the first place? Remember the times in which the event took place. LBJ got Earl Warren to take the job as head of the "official investigation" by telling him; "We have to find out if it was the Russians. Nuclear War is just 30 minutes away."

Plant a pasty with "commie" ties and let the Cold War do the rest.

By the way; It WAS a conspiracy. That is after all the official US Government view of the event ala the 1978 House Committee Report.

My Views on the subject;

1) Oswald was a patsy.

2) "The Mob", more specifically, Carlos Marcelleo (SP? - New Orleans Godfather and heavy into the anti-Castro movement) was the likely culprit.

3) As finally, Spector's "Magic Bullet Theory" ranks up there with Atlantis, El Dablo, and WMD and other "Myths of History".

[sabbat hunter]

11. the magic bullet

if you look at where Gov. Connelly sat in the car (not directly in front of JFK, lower down due to it being a jump seat) suddenly its not such a magic bullet. the bullet certainly wasnt pristine.

[rman]

13. Do you think the Warren comm. did find the mafia did it? If so,

then why was it covered up for the mafia by the Warren commission etc?

Moreover, who did the cover up before the fact (security stand downs), and why?

[peacetalksforall]

10. There are two groups responsible ...

There are the those who did the job and there are those who ordered the job.

There are five overriding motives = Cuba, Vietnam, Mafia, military-industrial complex (i.E. profits & war for war), D and R politics.

Who says that select people didn't work together?

Don't forget the French (Marseilles) mafia sharpshooter theory?

[LARED]

12. Pravda is one of the world's leading

news organiztions know for unbiased reporting and rock solid investigative journalism.

:sarcasm: off

[RedSock]

14. yay -- another thread about 9/11!!!

yay -- another thread about 9/11 in the 9/11 forum!!!

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