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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:12 PM
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Why was this CNN pentagon plane footage released?
Was there a reason for this? or was it released to help *'s falling poll numbers?

It seems like whenever he is getting dogged or about to(see Rove indictment) something pops up related to terror(see OBL tapes)

Just trying to think out loud.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:13 PM
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1. Judicial Watch sued to get it released. Tin foil is in Aisle 6.
Read news stories first.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:16 PM
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4. sorry just got home
Edited on Tue May-16-06 03:18 PM by stop the bleeding
I will go back to the idiot corner :blush:

on edit: I'll keep the OP to see how much of a lashing I'll take on this



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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:27 PM
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7. You're not an idiot for asking a question
Don't feel bad for not being glued to the news all day :hi:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:32 PM
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12. CNN said it was to dampen Conspiracy Theories by showing the plane
footage which had never been released. Darrin Kaygin said that.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:35 PM
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13. All of the stations have been saying it.
But I don't recall a sudden surge of 9/11 conspiracy theories in the MSM or elsewhere. It's the same stuff thats been out there for years.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:43 PM
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17. Maybe it was because of Charlie Sheen.
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:47 PM
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21. they are pre-emptively trying to foil the tifoilers by telling the viewers
Edited on Tue May-16-06 03:48 PM by joeunderdog
that they actually can see a plane somewhere in the missile wreckage.

Sorry, but I'm still looking for the plane there. Must be under the couch.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:40 PM
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15. More accurately, CNN said JUDICIAL WATCH requested it for
that reason.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:41 AM
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32. Personally...
I have more patience for people who ask innocent questions than folks who lecture others to go about things a different way.

There are times I have the luxury to research on my own and other times I need an expedited answer from someone who has already got the information. Questions like yours don't phase me at all.

I'm glad you asked it because I too got the answer as a result. Thanks!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:15 PM
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2. Per CNN, Judicial Watch made the FOIA request but the video was held...
...until the conclusion of the Moussaoui trial. For whatever it's worth. :shrug:
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:15 PM
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3. FOIA request. No tin foil on this one.
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simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:20 PM
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5. There are more videos being held
The video they released has been on the Internet for a while.

They have more videos from different angles. Why not release the rest? It should be part of documented history and not secret.
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:28 PM
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28. well to be more precise
what's been online has been a series of frames from the footage. this is just the actual footage without breaks. call me crazy, but there's no plane in the footage.

what frame rate do surveillance cameras typically record at? would the speed of a jetliner be so fast as to only appear in-between frames?

thats the only way i think it would make sense
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:25 PM
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6. link for us cube rats to get up to speed? THNX...n/t
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:27 PM
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8. I was wondering to.
And I saw the first response, so I didn't know either. I would never lash at you. :hi:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:28 PM
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9. Daddy use to play that game at the dinner table when his favorite
food was the order of the day. Daddy would say, "what that over there" I'd turn my head to look and the next thing I knew something was missing from my plate.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:30 PM
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10. "Judicial Watch" is a right-wing organization..
..funded by Republican money.

Karl Rove probably told them to file this lawsuit.
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New Government Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:27 PM
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27. Well, things have changed over at JW
They have been VERY hard on this administration and seem to be equal-opportunity Hell-Raisers of late.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:31 PM
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11. Better yet, why the sudden need to muffle "Conspiracy nuts"?
Edited on Tue May-16-06 03:31 PM by gatorboy
Each news station is using this as part of the same talking point as if there's been an onslaught of 9/11 comspiracy stories lately in the MSM.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:21 PM
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25. Because it is the truth and the World Criminal Court is biting at the bit
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:38 PM
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14. It was an AIRLINER. There were WITNESSES. This video is DISINFORMATION.
More useless grainy footage to get us to don our tinfoil suits.

They don't want us to talk about the FACT that that BUSH FAILED TO PROTECT US.

They want us to talk about CONSPIRACIES.

You are falling for Rove's plan - hook, line, and sinker - if you talk about anything except BUSH FAILING TO PROTECT US.

Witnesses:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77w.htm
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:43 PM
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18. EXACTLY. They WANT the tinfoilers to keep blathering their
idiot consipracy theories...guilt by association, as it were and it works, a lot of people think Dems are nutz. I can't disagree by and large.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:54 PM
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22. All those witnesses were hallucinating!
:eyes:
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:19 PM
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24. Why not release the gas or hotel video?

This "new" video is of the same angle that we’ve seen before.

BTW, I saw no plane hit the Pentagon either.

Boss! Where is Zee plane!



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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:03 AM
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30. They would love us to talk about conspiracies.
That would be a sure fire way to lose this election.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:41 PM
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16. Saw it and wasnt impressed
Itll just give the Conspiracy theorists more to talk about. I do believe our gov is secretive and corrupt but saying they bombed us on 911 is just stupid.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:45 PM
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19. I did a poll recently,

Poll question: Dirty Bomb goes off tomorrow....Your first thought is....

Damn, Cheney did it again... (57 votes, 83%) Vote

Damn, al Qaeda did it again... (2 votes, 3%) Vote

Damn, Iran did it... (0 votes, 0%) Vote

That's it, I'm outta here... (5 votes, 7%) Vote

Other... (5 votes, 7%) Vote

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=975809

They're just trying to do something about the 9/11 septics before the next attack.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:47 PM
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20. CNN said parts were not shown b/c ...(didn't support govt story?)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1206560

(from OP)

Did I just hear Wolfie correctly on CNN?...
...Did he say the Pentagon has admitted removing some frames from the footage of that security camera showing something hitting the Pentagon? Unless I heard wrong, he went on to state it was because the image it did capture would likely have fueled conspiracy theory and they didn't want to do that. Then he just moved right on like that was nothing unusual or worthy of any additional comment, not even a pause.

Someone tell me I just dreamed what I saw on CNN. INCREDIBLE.

Admitting to withholding evidence because it doesn't seem to support their story. I'll say it again...INCREDIBLE!!!!

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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:07 PM
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23. Truth Movement Approaching Critical Mass
The Loose Change folks have been providing public viewings and garnering a passionate response. The Reopen 911 camp has had similar results.

Take the $1,000,000 challenge at

www.reopen911.org
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:25 PM
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26. It's sweeps week.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:29 PM
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29. Ministry of Truth at it again
After all, we can only see what they want us to see....right?
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:24 AM
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31. Maybe It's Just Me
but I didn't see a plane!!
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