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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:22 PM
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Angel is next- a clue 911 was a set up by a faction in the government
Check out this post by reprehensor over at www.911blogger.com in the comments section where he explains Webster Tarpley's ( http://www.tarpley.net ) take on the alleged phone call on 9/11 warning "Angel is next." Angel was supposed to be a top secret code name for Air Force 1.

I can't link to the post directly so go here: http://www.haloscan.com/comments/dazinith/1144978067569... / and then use your browser's find or search function to search for "Tarpley" and it should take you to this post by reprehensor posted on 4/14/06 at 11:51am:


Angel is next.....

Here's Tarpley's take on it...

WT: Look, this is a forgotten clue of 9/11, which seems to me is the most important, because this is when the invisible government speaks. You may remember that at one point during the morning, 10:00 probably on 9/11, a death threat against Bush came into the Secret Service, saying, Angel is next. It essentially means, Air Force One will be shot down as the next step in these developments.

SNIP

Angel is next. Implies the top-secret codename or codeword for the Presidential aircraft, Air Force One. I go into intelligence agency reports, now let me just make a parenthesis, (9/11 didnt occur in a vacuum, it occurs in a world in which there are others watching. Whos watching? Well, Russias watching, Israels watching very much, the French are watching, theres Germans, Japan), what I found is 3 separate reports, one is the Rseau Voltaire which is obviously benefiting from leaks from French intelligence. The Rseau Voltaire version, which came out September 20th (or) 25th, says that the Angel is next. phone call came complete with top secret codeword, across a variety of agencies, suggesting that the people that were behind the attacks were a powerful faction inside the US intelligence community and government in general.

And that secondly, they had the nuclear launch codes in their possession. This report goes on to say that the Bush team thought during most of the day, that they were the target of a military coup. And it was only somehow later in the day that the situation was recomposed. Now what would it mean?

Essentially it means that the invisible government force behind 9/11 tells Bush that he must respond by stating that its Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, the Arabs, the Islamic world, and that whats gonna happen is the invasion of Afghanistan, and above all the beginning of the war of civilizations that Samuel Huntington writes about. An open-ended aggression of the United States against the Arab and Islamic world.

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/dazinith/1144978067569... /

Scary shit IMHO.
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:03 PM
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1. Direct link to Tarpley's interview...
http://www.gnn.tv/B10888

He latches on to bits of information that others don't and frames them in his 'rogue network' kind of way.

He certainly has a unique take on 9/11.

Has anyone here read, "The Invisible Government" by David Wise and Thomas B. Ross?
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 10:12 AM
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8. RE: "The Invisible Government"
Edited on Sat Apr-15-06 10:13 AM by Make7
I read more than a dozen years ago. In fact, I think I still have it on one of my bookshelves.

Is there a reason for your query?

- Make7
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 12:41 PM
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9. Validity.
In other, related reading, have you come across information that disproves the general thrust of the book?

Or, has it stood the test of time as an accurate depiction of how the CIA functioned at that particular moment in time, as far as you know?
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 01:35 PM
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10. I believe the general ideas seemed to correspond to other...
... information that I have read and seen concerning the major operations described. It was a long time ago, all I really remember with any detail is the Bay of Pigs, some other Cuba stuff, and the part about Guatemala. It was a while age, but I was reading a lot of books on Central and South America around that time and it seemed to fit with most of the other stuff.

I'd really have to give it a quick skim through to refresh my memory to be more specific. It's a pretty old book, must have been the written in the mid-60's or so. That was one of the first books to supposedly reveal the CIA's inner workings. (Although I can't really imagine it revealed much more than they would have allowed anyway.) Why the interest in something from so long ago? I think it's probably worth reading, but there's probably been better stuff written since then. Although, it seems to me that the Bay of Pigs stuff was pretty good compared to other things that I have read, but even that was only a small part of the book.

It seemed like a lot of the book was about the details of specific operations instead of the inner workings of the intelligence community. But that might just be the way I remember it because that's what interested me when I was reading it.

If you want some more detailed info, just let me know and I'll look it up. This post has all just been based on a somewhat hazy distant impression.

- Make7
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:10 PM
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11. Discovered it online.
At http://www.american-buddha.com/invisiblegov.toc.htm

I found the premise intriguing, and I want a broad base of understanding from the public domain regarding the CIA. If there is unique information in the book that hasn't been decredited, I want to read it.

I also tripped over a hard copy at the local "Half Price Books".
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:20 PM
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12. I hate reading books online. I'd pay a few bucks to have an actual book nt
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:55 PM
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2. Jim Marrs on "Angel is next."
At 9:00 A.M. on September 11, just about the time Flight 175 slammed into the south tower of the WTC, Secret Service agents in Washington received this chilling message: "Air Force One is next." Within minutes Vice President Dick Cheney was hustled from his seat in front of a television down to the president's nuclear-bomb-proof emergency operations center and the White House evacuated.

The warning was transmitted in that day's top-secret White House code, indicating that whoever was behind the transpiring attacks had access to the highest level of security codes. It meant that whoever had the codes could track and accurately pinpoint the president's plane.

After several days of investigation, the picture grew even darker. Someone had penetrated the National Security Agency's (NSA) hush-hush Echelon surveillance system. In fact, they appeared to have more electronic capability than even the NSA, including the use of "steganography", technology that allows its user to bypass Echelon and other electronic monitoring by hiding messages randomly in otherwise innocent digital files such as music, online advertisements, e-mail headers or even Internet pornography. Such buried messages leave no trace of their presence. The idea that someone had access to such high-level codes provoked speculation that there were "moles", deep-cover secret agents, within the U.S. government. It also could mean that whoever was behind the attacks had access to the latest and most sophisticated electronic equipment.


- The War on Freedom, Jim Marrs, (2003) p.12

(Marrs says 0900 v. Tarpley's 1000. It should be noted that Tarpley shoots from the hip when he does interviews, all from memory.)
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 03:22 PM
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3. DEBKA report on "Angel is next."
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:49 PM
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4. I can remember with CRYSTAL CLARITY
watching Rumsfield on TV the morning of 9/11 in a hastily arranged press conference at the Pentagon when he was very stern and said something to the effect of " I would like to remind people that top secret clearances are just that, and NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY WHEN IT COMES TO PASSING OUT CODE WORDS AND CODE NAMES....." did anyone else catch this?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 05:03 PM
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5. I remember reading a bit about this but had forgotten over time.
One of my pet theories has been that an airplane did not plunge into the Pentagon but that some missile or other U.S. government military asset was used against us. Bush would never release such information, if were true. Hell, I think it would be a bad move for a Democratic president to release information of that nature. The currency exchanges, the stock exchanges- they would dive faster than free-fall.

Hell, terrorists flying civilian airliners into the WTC's is one thing, a military asset being used against our own government is entirely another. Sometimes I also wonder if this is partly the reason why Bush has been installing so many personal confidantes and cronies- in an attempt to disrupt the influence of these moles, if they exist.

Of course the cronies he installs are his cronies because they have zero integrity so we're back to square one, maybe worse.

Thank you for posting!

PB
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 01:13 AM
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6. Bush as hero, fighting against the shadow government?
Sorry, I can't visualize that one....

But I could believe that he could be persuaded to go along with the plan, once it was underway. His reaction on 9/11 is pure paralysis, either from shock or being found out or realization that he's in over his head.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 02:08 AM
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7. LOL, me niether.
Maybe Tarpley doesn't want to get shot twice in the head? Anyway Junior knew. In those pictures of him and Tenet at the pigfarm in August he looks like the cat who ate the canary. And don't forget Poppy's an old hand at this stuff.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 07:09 PM
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13. Hrm, you take from that I think Bush is some kind of hero?
That's unfortunate. I guess you see my words with much different eyes than myself.

Peace.

PB
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 07:14 PM
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14. Didn't me to offend.
But I just have a hard time seeing Bush at war with the shadow government, using his cronies to somehow overcome it.
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Ferry Fey Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:41 AM
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15. Where does the Secret Service Florida behavior tie in with that?
How does this square with the Secret Service's lackadaisical behavior in Florida while the President was visiting the school?
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 05:04 PM
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16. That's not what Tarpley is saying
Edited on Sun Apr-16-06 05:07 PM by rman
At best it means that W is not as deep in the loop as some think he is.

And what's the alternative?
That there was no threat to "Angel One"? Or that it did not involve use of top secret code words? That it was not first admitted to and later denied by top govt officials?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 05:37 PM
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17. Well, if he wasn't deep before 9/11, he sure is now.
But, c'mon, brother Jeb was a signatory of PNAC. I suspect brother George was certainly "in the loop" as was Poppy. No doubt, he was kept out of any operational details...too dangerous for this guy to know too much, plausible deniability and all.

I still wonder about that 1st remark, "I saw that 1st pilot hit the WTC and I thought, "that's one bad pilot"". Regardless what we think of the '1st pilot on TV' remark, the fact is, he was well aware of the plan for AQ to hit NYC with planes as weapons.....could he really have been that stupid to think it was pilot incompetence? Or did he assume we'd never know about all of the warnings they had prior to 9/11? And he didn't see anything before he was told that there was a terrorist attack before he went into the school.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 06:05 PM
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18. still, what to make of that threat re Angel?
Edited on Sun Apr-16-06 06:05 PM by rman
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 07:57 PM
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19. A good excuse to keep Bush out of Washington, DC?
Maybe he goes to Louisiana to get briefed on the the day's events. Why would AQ warn Bush? If indeed there was a plan to do him in, why not fly a Cessna with 500 lbs of high explosives and crash it into Booker?
It's not like his schedule/itinerary was secret or anything. What better situation than the overnighter to Florida? Venice is a quick hop to Sarasota, it would seem like a natural for AQ to want to take out Bush there.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:49 PM
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20. How did AQ get those secret codes?
I looks very much like the threat came from within US intel agencies.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 09:25 PM
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21. I take it you don't think it was an external threat.
Neither do I. Unless, of course, they have an NSA like apparatus in the caves, along with their own AQ satellites*.

*Well, the bin Laden family does have an ownership stake in the Irridium network, but surely they can't be tapping into our agencies secure traffic...
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 09:35 PM
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22. Looks to me like there's considerable overlap
between internal and external threats.
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:03 PM
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23. Buddy of mine in the Guard...
Says there ain't no "Dr Evil" type caves in them Afghani hills.

He served in Afghanistan for 2 years.

Maybe "Angel is next." was just Poppy freakin' Junior out.

"Just remember who's the boss, kid." - Love, Dad.

Yet one more unexplained 9/11 anecdote.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:08 PM
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24. Poppy spending the nite at the WH while Junior was in Sarasota.
Just another of those odd coincidences surrounding 9/11.....
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 07:46 AM
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25. Just speculation
Been thinking about that general that was giving speeches about having to fight Islam. The guy is a fanatical christian. I think his name is Boynkin, something like that.

What bothers me about military involvement in executing 9/11, even in the background, is the idea that they would have to know this is an attack against their own country. A country they have given an oath to protect.

Thinking about what it would take to turn anyone in the military to rationalize killing Americans and the only 'morality' I can think of that is powerful enough to justify this sort of rationalization would be something based in religious zeal. And this is what makes me think of this Boynkin guy.

I wonder if it's somehow possible to put this guy under the 'internet microscope', to try to see what he is all about.

It is clear to me, that the events of 9/11 had to have insiders helping to bring down those buildings. Insiders based here in this country. The towers were brought down by demolition. The videos make that clear to me, the thermite reactions can be seen. So someone had to place the charges and set them off.

So how was this set-up and who did it? And who could be knowledgable enough on how to do it? The are pro's working in demolition companies and also in the military. I doubt the people hijacking the planes and the people that dropped the buildings were part of the same organization. I think the ones hijacking the planes were played, for the most part.

I think there is enough justification when viewing the video's and also the trading in airline stock options pre-9/11 to believe there are treasonous insiders. Also the subsequent anthrax attacks targeting political opponents of an agenda makes Bu$h/Cheney/Rumsfield prime candidates for suspicion in the conspiracy at some level. Certainly as enablers to the insiders that actually did the crime.
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