Charlie Sheen: WHAT 9/11 HIJACKERS?

[kpete]

March 23, 2006 --

CHARLIE Sheen has joined the 9/11 gone-bonkers brigade. The "Two and a Half Men" star gave a bizarre interview on GGN Radio Network's conspiracy-minded "The Alex Jones Show," in which he suggested that the federal government was covering up what "really" happened. "It seems to me like 19 amateurs with boxcutters taking over four commercial airliners and hitting 75 percent of their targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory. It raises a lot of questions," Sheen said. "A couple of years ago, it was severely unpopular to talk about any of this. It feels like from the people I talk to, and the research I've done and around my circles, it feels like the worm is turning." Sheen said the collapse of the Twin Towers looked like a "controlled demolition." The out-there actor also expressed his disbelief over how one of the planes hit the Pentagon. "Just show us how this particular plane pulled off these maneuvers . . . It is up to us to reveal the truth. It is up to us because we owe it to the families, we owe it to the victims, we owe it to everyone's life who was drastically altered, horrifically, that day and forever. We owe it to them to uncover what happened."

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix/65825.htm

[seemslikeadream]

dupe

[seemslikeadream]

1. Full Segment:CNN Showbiz Tonight Covers Charlie Sheen and 9/11 Skepticism

http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?cat=1&med=0&ord=Name&strt=0&vid=47&epi=0&typ=0



BUDDY BUDDY

DO THE MATH

24 MINUTES

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MILITARY ORDER WATCH THIS VIDEO

http://www.bushflash.com/buddy.html

[BOHICA06]

2. Obvious ....

:tinfoilhat:

[Memory Container]

43. What's obvious?

There's definitely something fishy with 9/11.

[BOHICA06]

64. I'm sorry .....

that should have been :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: 1/2:tinfoilhat:

It happened, millions saw it happen and the result of it happening ..........

[CJCRANE]

3. He's got a point..nt

[zanne]

4. I didn't know I was part of the "Gone Bonkers brigade"...

But whatever they want to call it, I agree with Charlie Sheen.

[Ufomammut]

23. OF COURSE that's how it works!

Skeptics and dissidents, regarding any view that is critical of the Establishment, is met with 1) silence, ignore it 2) when they can no longer ignore you, level personal attacks as a means of discrediting dissidents and steering the debate away from incriminating or otherwise unsavory, unpopular evidence.

[libertypirate]

25. The three D's of the politics of coruption

Deny - Ignorance is bliss
Discredit - the blame and calling name game
Distract - Raise the threat level, we've got incomming.

[Ufomammut]

31. Indeed, right alongside...

Problem/reaction/solution

[sleipnir]

24. It's the NY Post. They're part of the "Gone BushBonkers brigade"

They are so far up Bush's ass and the republican party, the post is practically coming out of his mouth.

[BrklynLiberal]

5. I will add my .02 to the MIHOP brigade before this thread is thrown in the

9/11 dungeon.
The minute I saw that second plane hit the South tower I KNEW that the BFEE was involved.

[TahitiNut]

9. Ditto.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

10. It's always good to see...

...people making rational decisions based on solid evidence.

[MadHound]

17. So, do you have the answers to the important questions?

Like how two towers, both hit in different areas, both built to withstand such damage, both with relatively cool fires that were being suppressed, magically managed to collapse into their own footprint?

Sorry, but buildings simply don't defy the laws of physics in that manner unless they had "help". If they did, there would be no jobs available for demolition experts.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

18. Of course I do.

Scalar weapons. I saw it in my magic make-up-some-random-bullshit eight-ball.


Sorry, but buildings simply don't defy the laws of physics in that manner unless they had "help". If they did, there would be no jobs available for demolition experts.

Of course. Because you could just fly a spare plane into it.

[MadHound]

28. So in other words you have as many of the answers to these questions

As the rest of us do, ie zip, zero, zilch, nada. Yet you choose to berate people because they dare to question the official story.

That's fine, you just keep doing that. Many, many people did the same thing to the people who doubted the official "lone gunman" theory of the Kennedy assasination too. But due to the efforts of many fine, intelligent skeptical people who didn't bow down to the scorn and ridicule of those who like their pabulum pre chewed, they managed to force the government into re-opening the investigation and guess what. The US government officially found the Kennedy assasination to indeed be the product of a conspiracy. I imagine that this is the same trajectory the 911 investigation will take. So keep up the good work there pal. Your scorn and ridicule just inspires us all the more.

Oh, and one more question for you. How come NORAD jets were able to intercept Payne Stewart's jet within a few minutes of the plane going off course, as per standing orders, yet NORAD jets failed to respond to four hijacked planes for over forty-five minutes, until it was too late and the damage was done? This is a standing order friend, who revoked it?

[Catrina]

38. Well, no, you could do whatever was done to Building 7! No plane involved

there. Maybe they didn't have another spare one, but it imploded all by itself anyway! The planes are a nice touch, but apparently unnecessary!

[Ufomammut]

40. Well, not "by itself," and what was floor #12 of tower 7?

[Memory Container]

49. Building seven was a controlled demolition.

You would have to be absolutely delusional to look at this;


And say that that was a result of "several small fires" or "debris".

WTF is wrong with people... IT'S RIGHT THERE!! BELIEVE YOUR OWN EYES!!

[EVDebs]

53. Even the insurance company is looking into this

I'll settle for the insurance companies now interested in the takedown of WTC-7, which wasn't hit by an airplane or 'falling debris' from WTC-1 or 2, but just seemed to fall into it's own footprint all on its own. Interesting, huh ?

WTC-7 mystery of the 'pull'

""Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC complex, admitted on a September 2002 PBS documentary, 'America Rebuilds' that he and the NYFD decided to 'pull' WTC 7 on the day of the attack. The word 'pull' is industry jargon for taking a building down with explosives""

http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html

I've heard it takes around 2 weeks to set up a building for demolishion into its footprint.

But, alas, this is yet another of the 9-11 anomalies.

""Allianz Group published a shareholder proposal on April 20th faulting management for ignoring signs of insurance fraud on 9/11/2001. Allianz carried a significant portion of the insurance coverage on the WTC, and stands to pay a corresponding portion of the $3.5 billion payout currently being litigated in New York. In his proposal, shareholder John Leonard, a California native and a publisher of books on 9/11, pointed to reports that building WTC 7 apparently collapsed by demolition, and for no plausible reason related to the 9/11 attacks. Management replied that it relied on official US government reports which made no mention of such evidence.

The Allianz Group is incorporated in Germany and has approximately 570,000 shareholders. Under German Stock Companies law, publicly held companies are required to publish shareholder proposals that meet certain criteria.

The text of the shareholder proposal, which may also be viewed at the Allianz website,""...is reproduced at the weblink below...

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/may2005/040505potentialfraud.htm
Major WTC Insurance Company Questions Building 7 Collapse As Potential Fraud
PR Web | May 4 2005

[Ufomammut]

54. "Nu-Uh!!!" They cried.....

TV says differently man ...come on, "get a grip" and get down with the mass delusion and denial. How can we be "AT WAAAAAAAAARRRRRR!!!!" if the enemy is domestic? The "captains" of the "home team" would never cheat!

[RufusEarl]

55. Building #7

I'm glad you brought building 7 up! This was what turned me around on the 9-11 theory, and made me realize that all three building were pulled.

[Ufomammut]

57. All told, wasn't it SEVERAL buildings that eventually "came down?"

[RufusEarl]

59. I believe so, but bldg 7 came down just hours after WTC 1 & 2.

I've watched the video over and over, and i know something about building construction, bldg #7 was brought down by explosives in it's on foot print.

And the thing that turned me around, was the fact that if i'm correct and the building was imploded, it would have taken several days to prepare the building for implosion. And that means that someone had prior knowledge to the attacks on 9-11.

[rman]

73. Buildings other then 1, 2 and 7 were officially pulled by CD

In fact most of those buildings were far more damaged then 7, yet they remainded standing untill brought down by official CD.

[ellie]

72. It was the propane!

I have read on these very boards that it was the tank of propane that was stored in WTC 7 that brought that building down. Propane! Who knew that burning propane could melt steel?

You learn something new every day.

:sarcasm:

[stickdog]

67. Or just set a couple of small fires in it.

Like with WTC-7 ...

[Arkansas Granny]

30. I don't personally have the answer, but I watched a NOVA show

on PBS that seemed pretty plausible.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/

[MadHound]

62. Ah yes, the expert from MIT

Remember now that MIT has been in the back pocket of the CIA for over forty years now.

But beyong that, let's look at the specifics. We're talking jet fuel here. Jet fuel, which is simply highly refined kerosene, burns at a maximum temperature of 900 degrees F. And that is if all conditions are optimal, adequate ventilation, no fire suppression, etc. Yet even at optimal conditions, a jet fuel fire cannot reach the minimum temperature needed, 1100F, to weaken structural steel.

And conditions were far from optimal in the towers. First off, the WTC towers were loaded with fire suppresive materials as mandated by city laws and fire codes. Fire suppresant carpets, drapes, wall coverings, furniture, etc. etc. In addition, as reported by both survivors and firemen on the scene, the sprinkler system was indeed up and running that day, doing its job, suppressing the fire. Makes it mighty difficult for a fire to maintain itself, much less reach its max temperature.

Moreover, having gone over the transcripts of the radio conversations that the firefighters were having from inside the Towers, it is my opinion that they thought that the fire in both towers were controlable. I'm a former firefighter, and something that struck me is that the firemen in both towers were only calling out for three lines apiece to battle the blaze. I don't care if the hoses that you're calling for are the big two inchers, if you are only calling for three of them to fight a fire, that means you aren't going up against a raging inferno that is melting steel and collapsing buildings. No, you're going up against a fire that is controlable and that you expect to douse in fairly quick order. And this was what was being called for in both buildings, three lines.

Further evidence that the fire wasn't a roaring inferno is the smoke coming out of the Towers. The smoke was thick and black, rich with unburned fuel. That is a sure sign of a fire that is being suppressed, not a roaring inferno. If those fires were the roaring infernos that these "experts" claim they were, the smoke would have been bluish grey, and you would have seen flames emerging from almost every window or egress that they could find. Instead, we see minimal flames coming out, but lots of thick, black smoke.

And nowhere in this NOVA piece you linked to does it explain one of the crucial questions, where were the NORAD planes? If you remember when golfer Payne Stewart's plane went down, within five minutes of the plane going off course, there were fighter jets up in the air and escorting it across the country. This is standard operating procedure, in fact it is a standing order that whenever a plane is hijacked, or even deviates significantly from its course, they send up the fighter jets.

And yet on that day, with a forty five to sixty minute window in which to scramble the jets, nobody, nothing from NORAD showed up on the scene until it was too late. How come? It would take somebody of pretty significant rank to countermand those standing orders.

There are many, many questions surrounding 911, many of which are going unanswered. The 911 Commission didn't probe these questions, instead they performed a whitewash. Until these questions are adequately answered, the truth of 911 will never be known. And until the truth is known, we will continue to suffer under all the horrible consequences that have flowed forth from 911, and sadly one of those consequences could very well be the end of democracy in this country, "for reasons of security".

[stickdog]

68. Really? Well, NIST didn't seem to think so.

Not that NIST examined any real evidence or anything:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=45315&mesg_id=45315

[Junkdrawer]

39. I wasn't in that camp until I read the Rowley FBI memo...

I remember reading that memo like I remember JFK's assasination.

http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html

[Ufomammut]

44. That's how they sold the Warren Comm's "conclusions;"

The American people don't read.

[tomp]

46. ditto. nt

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[Cessna Invesco Palin]

6. Aaaagh.

There are already fifteen other threads on this topic.

[RufusEarl]

7. Now i'm a Charlie Sheen fan!

[mirandapriestly]

32. Yeah, me too, I didn't like him that much before!nt

[Sparkman]

48. C.S. snitched out Heidi Fleiss, but now he's going public with 911 reality

at much risk of losing a few million fans & millions of $$ at the box office.
You see, ONLY this kind of truth telling can redeem asshole-silver-spooned-rich punks, in my book.
Being filthy stinking rich works for me, if he uses his clout & fame for SOMETHING good.
YOU OWED SOCIETY CS, BIG, Hookers are people too and don't deserve snitches.

[neoblues]

8. An honest, perceptive actor speaks the unpopular...

...unpopular, but more than certain truth. It is indeed up to us, and we owe it to our nation's history and to posterity to expose the real truth of the events of that day (and a myriad of other secret/covert/hidden misbehaviors of the Bush Administration (and the Republican leadership both in Washington and around the country), not the least of which is voter fraud (ahh, but one of so many other treasonous crimes against The People)).

Forgot to mention that this is also a very courageous act and carries with it significant risk (a variety of them). While it may be less of a risk now than a couple of years ago, it's still a significant deed.

[Ecumenist]

12. AMEN, Neo...

and while I'm at it and about the same age as you on this forum, Welcome to DU:hi:

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[pberq]

13. Thanks for posting - we need daily posts on 9/11 truth

anyone else notice that 9/11 threads are getting more common here on DU - especially with the Massoui (sp) case - and the obvious gov't obstruction - being in the news?

[libertypirate]

20. Did you all read what happened on the court house steps the other day?

And the media was standing right there...



After listening to over thirty minutes of hard-hitting information delivered by Fetzer, Nelson, and Berg, the press corps was invited to ask questions. Remarkably, only one reporter made an inquiry: “Why would they do it? What were their motives?” Professor Fetzer answered with a litany of reasons, including the infamous PNAC missive and the need for a "New Pearl Harbor" which would lead us into Afghanistan, Iraq, and beyond. After this explanation, no other questions were posed to the Scholars, despite the substantial amount of information they provided.

We did notice one journalist with tears in her eyes as she scribbled furiously on a notepad while listening to Professor Fetzer. If we hearken back to what Colonel Nelson said about conscience, the question remains: will members of the mainstream media start following their conscience by exposing the lies of 9-11, or will they continue to aid and abet in the ongoing cover-up of the gravest crime ever committed against this country?

http://69.28.73.17/thorn2006/alexandria.html

Oh and why did Pakistan need to 'lobby' aka bribe the 9-1 1 ommission members?

The report quoted an officer as saying that dramatic changes were made in the final draft of the inquiry commission after the lobbyists got to work. The panel was formed to probe the September 11 terror attack and make suggestions to fight terrorism.

After the commission tipped the lobbyists about the damaging revelations on Pakistan’s role in 9/11, they contacted the panel members and asked them to go soft on the country. The Friday Times claimed that a lot of money was used to silence these members.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1060313/asp/nation/story_5962372.asp

[pberq]

63. Thanks for posting this - good point about conscience

[Ecumenist]

15. I beg your pardon....

I, for one, have NEVER believed the crap that was hastily constructed to explain what happened that day. Critical thinking and all....

[90-percent]

19. charlie

seems like a good guy - I like all them estevez clans persons.

he did seem to be in denial about alcoholism about 10 years ago when he had drinking issues. I wish I had his money to go out and buy some of Heidi's hookers like he did!

I hope he's found a way to deal with drinking problems.

Thanks for speaking your mind, Charlie. Hope it doesn't get your show canceled and get you blackballed out of show business!

Questioning 9/11's Official Version is the epitome of patriotism, if you ask me!

-85% Jimmy

[Sparkman]

36. C.S. was wrong on Heidi Fleiss, BUT the PENTAGON damage was faked.

There was no credible explanation to the lack of plane components, the size of the "hole" alleged to have been made by an airliner and the fake factor is a 9 out of 10. imo
HOW CAN WE BELIEVE A GOVERNMENT THAT STILL COZIES UP TO THE SAUDIS WHEN THEIR CITIZENS MADE UP MOST OF THE "HIJACKERS"?

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[Lerkfish]

16. what is bonkers about asking for a REAL investigation instead of

partisan propaganda?

to me, accepting what THIS administration says at face value is flat out insane.

[90-percent]

22. Lerkfish

Good post.

But, not asking isn't merely insane, it's downright treasonous! These murderous bastards are operating without any form of checks and balances in government what so ever.

Our country's only hope is people like you and me and the other 300 million of us USA inhabiter's to question these corporate-fascists!

-85% Jimmy

[H2O Man]

21. I saw him on CNN

last night. I do not agree with all of his thinking on 9-11, but even on the things I view differently, I was impressed with his thinking. He was rational, logical, and focused on looking for the truth. No American should be insulted by the media, as I saw on another thread this morning, because he/she asks questions. On a topic as important as 9-11, especially in light of the failure of the 9-11 Commission to answer important questions, I have nothing but respect for Sheen for taking the position he has.

[Gin]

27. Question I had about the Pentagon plane was.........I thought it was

"ODD" to day the least that it hit right where the new section was...w/few personnel there/and the new security features were tested.

My own opinion tends to be the plane was remotely controlled to be that exact. If computers can be taken over...why can't planes be taken over in auto pilot and flown how and where they want them to be? (IMHO)

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[EVDebs]

56. Wargames on 9-11 begs question of how Pentagon was hit in first place

DOD's heart. Air cover missing. See post #47 for some clues re Ptech, now GoAgile, and who they work for.

Also, wargames on 9-11
www.oilempire.us/wargames.html

the public knows little or nothing about. Way to go, mainstreammedia. Leave it to the amateurs

[DemonFighterLives]

26. Why must it be a bonkers brigade and

"out there actor".
Let's get to the truth of 911 and find out who the bonkers f*ckers are.

Why is this thread still above board? See you in the basement!
:9

[Ufomammut]

29. Exactly

Thing is, I'm willing to bet that there are many complicitous people who nearly shit themselves anytime anyone even remotely in the media spotlight speaks out. Funny too, cause the system has largely relied upon the populace being so distracted through pop culture/celebrities as to not bother paying attention to their own enslavement that people within that medium in turn come foward, and in doing so, help guide more of the unwary in a direction they wouldn't otherwise notice.

[DemonFighterLives]

34. The news is all about American Idol and the chicken little looking

dude. :argh: Welcome to DU!

[Ufomammut]

35. And this is a realistic representation of the "democracy" the ...

US gov wants to spread across the globe. Like a bad rash.

[mirandapriestly]

33. Bonkers, bizarre,conspiracy, "out-there"...

The Post is so obvious, but the sheep will fall far it.

[Ufomammut]

37. LOL yeah, cause, ya know...

That "loser" Sheen has ...*gulp*... taken druuuugsss.
And has - now get this - HAD SEX WITH SOMEONE!

golly...

[Sparkman]

42. C.S. is a snitch, and a bitch, and who better to snivel about liars in DC?

OF course the hyjacking was a fraud!! What are you skeptics OVERLOOKING? (big question!)
That this government will do ANYTHING, they don't play by any rules, they make em up on the fly! THEY (live) behind gated compounds, FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES! Witness Protection cubed.

[melissinha]

45. I'm still in the LIHOP category

Simply because of evidence. Which is serious enough as it is... I still can't get over the fact that NARAL didn't intercept 2nd, 3rd and 4th planes.

SHouldn't be surprised, he's Martin's son. Do you guys even KNOW hoe much Barbara Boxer gets from Hollywood.... its A LOT!!!

[AAARRRGGGHHH]

50. Nothing to add

I just wanted to say a quick 'hi' before this thread gets banished to the 9/11 dungeon ;)

[Ufomammut]

52. I know, I posted this the other day, as did someone else, and...

They were disappeared rather quickly.

[Dr. Jones]

58. "Looked like a controlled demolition"

I think ALOT of people actually do believe this, but they're afraid to say it. They're afraid of what it might mean.

Just like with Kennedy's assasination, there's a disconnect. People so want to believe in the "good" of our government, they're afraid to even see the possibility that these things could happen in America.

"Assasinations, change of power, cou de ta (sp?), they happen in foreign lands but NEVER in America," they say.

But they are wrong.

[Tuesday_Morning]

60. Thanks Charlie

"We owe it to them to uncover what happened."

Amen to that.

[Bushwick Bill]

61. Can somebody screenshot Yahoo?

The Sheen video is linked on the front page, on the right, in the news section.
http://www.yahoo.com/

[KFC]

65. Charlie has obviously started drinking again

I love when dim actors make engineering assessments.

[file83]

66. Kentucky Fried Chicken has obviously started drinking again...

I love when dim "fast-food chains" make medical assessments about people they don't even know.

[stillcool]

69. I'm with Charlie....

Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.
- Albert Einstein

To raise new questions, new possibilities, to regard old problems from a new angle, requires creative imagination and marks real advance in science.
- Albert Einstein

To imagine is everything, to know is nothing at all.
- Jacques Anatole I. France (Jacques Anatole Thib

The imagination equips us to perceive reality when it is not fully materialized.
- Mary Caroline Richards

"The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting." Milan Kundera


Conspiracies
"Anti-conspiracists insist that, unlike the rest of us, the rich
and powerful do not act with deliberate intent." Michael Parenti

In a roomful of smoking guns, they demand a smoking cannon.

The well-known term "conspiracy" may not actually serve us very
well, since it suggests an arcane aberration rather than the
normal workings of our ruling class.

The trivialization of conspiracism may itself be a conspiracy.

Humpty-Dumpty was pushed.

With the JFK assassination we gave up part of our democracy and
we're not going to get it back unless we find out who did it.
Prof. Peter Dale Scott sees the JFK assassination as an "internal
adjustment".
http://www.killinghope.org/



"Saddam Hussein is a man who told the world he wouldn't have weapons of mass destruction, but he's got them." ~ President Bush, November 3, 2002. "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." ~ Vice President Dick Cheney, August 26, 2002

http://members.aol.com/bblum6/American_holocaust.htm

If you flip over the rock of American foreign
policy of the past century, this is what crawls out ...

invasions ... bombings ... overthrowing
governments ... suppressing movements
for social change ... assassinating
political leaders ... perverting
elections ... manipulating labor unions ...
manufacturing "news" ... death squads ...
torture ... biological warfare ...
depleted uranium ... drug trafficking ...
mercenaries ...

It's not a pretty picture.
It is enough to give imperialism a bad name.
http://members.aol.com/bblum6/parenti.htm

[DemonFighterLives]

70. Rock On Charlie!

:dem:

[CJCRANE]

71. Sheen never said "what hijackers?"

Misleading headline.

MSM should ask the simple question of how * saw the 1st plane hit the WTC on TV as he claimed.

[savemefromdumbya]

74. Indded, what hijackers

ofcourse there weren't any hijackers and now you are going to wonder how they did it?