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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:01 PM
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Hey, 9-11 demolition conspiracy theorists
A question for you.

In a controlled demolition, what is the cause of the collapse of the building?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:03 PM
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1. The timing of the collapse of load-bearing columns
at least that's what they show on those demolition shows on Discovery.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:18 PM
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2. keep trying
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:19 PM
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3. uhhh...gravity?
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:39 PM
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5. are you a 9-11 demolition conspiracy theorist?
otherwise "shhhh!!"
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:29 PM
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4. Covert energy weapons
located in the bowels of the earth under Dick Cheney's lazy boy.

Do I win a prize?
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:59 PM
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6. why don't you answer your own question
since you act like you have the answer

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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:01 PM
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7. Loneliness?
:evilgrin:
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:39 PM
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8. well TrogL?
we've waited all day for your insight into this subject.
since you're so smart and all why don't you share your incredible insight?

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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 06:10 PM
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9. The answer I was expecting was "explosives"
from them, anyway. They don't seem to understand gravity.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:45 AM
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10. Aw come on!!
Everybody knows that explosives is the name given to Ford Explorers that are painted pink so as to appeal to the ladies.
And gravity is the hole in the mashed potatoes that you pour the gravy into.

Sheesh.
You act like we are morans or sumpan.
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Lavachequirit Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-04 02:28 PM
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11. Hey, who you callin a sampan?
Edited on Sat Feb-14-04 02:41 PM by Lavachequirit
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