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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:11 AM
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USA v. Usama bin Laden et al trial - Official Court Documents
Below is a copy of the main page with links for all of the documents and transcripts from the trial of the 1993 WTC bombers. In the end four terrorists were convicted to life terms. This is what happens when you allow our system of justice to work. Here is proof that you can bring terrorist to trial in an open court in the US. We don't need secret prisons and torture to bring terrorists to justice.

Anyway, lot's of good info here, especially for 9-11 researchers. Enjoy!

BTW: Guess who is the lead prosecutor? Patrick Fitzgerald.

Transcripts of the USA v. Usama bin Laden et al trial in the Southern District of New York.

26 February 2002:

See case docket through February 22, 2002: (328 pp.; 827KB)

Zipped: (113KB)

23 November 2001: See also pre-trial documents:

5 November 2001: Transcripts of testimony on alleged attempts by bin Laden agents to purchase uranium:

Day 3, pp. 357 ff.
Day 4, pp. 464 ff., p. 528.
Day 7, pp. 982 ff., p. 1041.

The US prosecutors refer to the uranium as "nuclear material," or "components for a nuclear weapon," or a "nuclear weapon." See Day 37, p. 5253; Day 65, p. 7464; Day 72, p. 8680.

18 October 2001: Sentencing Hearing added.

12 October 2001

In answer to queries:

The digital transcripts listed here were purchased from the Court Reporters Office and were sent to Cryptome daily by e-mail usually in the evening of the trial day. The Court Reporters Office noted at the time of subscription that the daily files were subject to final editing as the official transcript. Official files may be purchased from the Court Reporters Office by calling the number below. Cryptome paid $1.00 per page, nearly $9,000 total. The files here are owned by Cryptome and offered free as a public service. There are no restrictions on non-commercial use or reproduction.

A Zipped file of all transcripts with this listing (except Day 78, sentencing hearing): (3.4MB)

10 July 2001

Daily transcripts of the USA v. Usama bin Laden et al trial in the Southern District of New York. Digital files from the Court Reporters Office; (212) 805-0300.

Day 1 5 February 2001 (213KB)
Day 2 6 February 2001 (245KB)
Day 3 7 February 2001 (89KB)
Day 4 13 February 2001 (149KB)
Day 5 14 February 2001 (190KB)

Day 6 15 February 2001 (225KB)
Day 7 20 February 2001 (282KB)
Day 8 21 February 2001 (201KB)
Day 9 22 February 2001 (124KB)
Day 10 26 February 2001 (214KB)

Day 11 27 February 2001 (171KB)
Day 12 28 February 2001 (235KB)
Day 13 1 March 2001 (122KB)
Day 14 7 March 2001 (222KB)
Day 15 8 March 2001 (239KB)

Day 16 12 March 2001 (249KB)
Day 17 13 March 2001 (224KB)
Day 18 14 March 2001 (150KB)
Day 19 19 March 2001 (253KB)
Day 20 20 March 2001 (179KB)


Day 21 22 March 2001 (178KB)
Day 22 26 March 2001 (200KB)
Day 23 27 March 2001 (146KB)
Day 24 29 March 2001 (86KB)
Day 25 2 April 2001 (161KB)


Day 26 3 April 2001 (129KB)
Day 27 4 April 2001 (128KB)
Day 28 12 April 2001 (102KB)
Day 29 16 April 2001 (251KB)
Day 30 17 April 2001 (95KB)


Day 31 18 April 2001 (152KB)
Day 32 23 April 2001 (368KB)
Day 33 24 April 2001 (211KB)
Day 34 25 April 2001 (180KB)
Day 35 26 April 2001 (210KB)


Day 36 30 April 2001 (235KB)
Day 37 1 May 2001 (280KB)
Day 38 2 May 2001 (262KB)
Day 39 3 May 2001 (216KB)
Day 40 7 May 2001 (199KB)


Day 41 8 May 2001 (280KB)
Day 42 9 May 2001 (289KB)
Day 43 10 May 2001 (115KB)
Day 44 11 May 2001 (38KB)
Day 45 14 May 2001 (7KB)


Day 46 15 May 2001 (31KB)
Day 47 16 May 2001 (19KB)
Day 48 17 May 2001 (41KB)
Day 49 18 May 2001 (48KB)
Day 50 21 May 2001 (44KB)


Day 51 22 May 2001 (41KB)
Day 52 23 May 2001 (16KB)
Day 53 24 May 2001 Not sent by Court Reporter
Day 54 25 May 2001 Not sent by Court Reporter
Day 55 29 May 2001 (125KB)


Day 56 30 May 2001 (233KB)
Day 57 31 May 2001 (220KB)
Day 58 4 June 2001 (248KB)
Day 59 5 June 2001 (222KB)
Day 60 6 June 2001 (31KB)


Day 61 7 June 2001 (11KB)
Day 62 11 June 2001 (29KB)
Day 63 12 June 2001 (52KB)
Day 64 18 June 2001 Court Reporter says entire record sealed
Day 65 19 June 2001 (206KB)


Day 66 20 June 2001 (287KB)
Day 67 21 June 2001 (201KB)
Day 68 25 June 2001 (99KB)
Day 69 26 June 2001 (219KB)
Day 70 27 June 2001 (131KB)


Day 71 28 June 2001 (135KB)
Day 72 2 July 2001 (350KB)
Day 73 3 July 2001 (85KB)
Day 74 5 July 2001 (10KB)
Day 75 9 July 2001 Not sent by Court Reporter


Day 76 10 July 2001 (18KB)

Trial completed.


Pre-sentencing Hearing

17 October 2001 Pre-sentencing hearing transcript not received.

Sentencing Hearing

18 October 2001 (115KB)

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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 04:56 PM
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1. Some peculiarities about that case
(read Peter Lance, 1000 Years for Revenge).

The FBI had an informant in the group that was building
the bomb. They had planned to have him substitute harmless
powder for the explosive material, and then they took him
off the case and the real bomb was constructed.

A US Army sergeant, Ali Mohamed, was photographed training
the 93 WTC bombers in the use of firearms. Later, when
he was charged in connection with the African embassy
bombings by al Qaeda, a plea bargain was negotiated by
none other than Patrick Fitzgerald. Ali Mohamed was
never sentenced in that case, and nobody knows where he
is now.

One problem with these secret detentions and such is that
they provide lots of cover for operatives--which might not
be a problem if we could trust our government.

Use of lethal injection for execution also brings up
problems in verifiability. For instance, how do we know
Timothy McVeigh is really dead?

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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:27 AM
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2. Peculiar? Ali Mohamed?
early 1980s - involved with the Egyptian Islamic Jihad

1986-89 - member of US Special forces, Fort Bragg, with security clearance

1986-89 - on weekends, went to NY to train potential jihadis in firearms & munitions
- trained El-Sayyid Nosair who killed a NY rabbi in 1990
- trained Clement Rodney Hampton-El, who later plotted to blow up the UN
- trained Mahmud Abouhalima, 1993 WTC terrorist

1990 - hosted al-Zawahiri, the head of Egyptian Islamic Jihad on a fund-raising tour of US for terrorist attacks

1991 - helped Osama move from Afghanistan to Sudan

1992 - trained terrorist operatives in al-Qaeda's camps in Afghanistan

1993 - does surveillance for Osama on US embassy in Nairobi

1993 - becomes FBI informant

1994 - trains bin Laden's bodyguards and security detail working in the interior of the bin Laden compound in Sudan

1994 - FBI orders him to US to answer questions about the UN bombing plot - in the end he does not testify and is not detained

1996 - helps move al-queda back to Afghanistan

1998 - arrested by FBI and detained for 8 months

1999 - indited for embassy bombings

2000 - pled guilty to being an agent of al Qaeda and Egyptian Islamic Jihad, planning the embassy bombing, training Osama's personal bodyguards and helping al-Zawahiri raise terrorist funds

October 2001 - he disappears - not sentenced, no longer in the US prison system
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:49 AM
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3. There seems to be some overlap of personel
between the CIA and al Qaeda. Makes it even harder to figure out who the bad guys are when you play these kind of games. No wonder BushCo only wants secret prisons and haven't convicted a single terrorist since 9-11.

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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:31 AM
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4. By the way, thanks for those transcripts.
I put them in a single 12,000 page Word file and can now do a search of names like Ali Mohammed to see what was said of him. Trouble is, three times the court reporter spelled it Mohammed with two 'm's. But it's very valuable. Thanks again.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 01:27 PM
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5. Search on "Moham*" or "Ali"
Thanks for searching the transcripts.

When America understands the truth about 9/11 the people will be howling for Bush
to be sent to the Hague. But first we have to try to get DU to see the truth.
We have to get the Green Party to see the truth. We have to get the Democrats
to recognize the need for a new investigation.

2006 can be the year of 9/11 truth. Five-year retrospectives in the media offer
an opportunity for revisiting significant anniversaries in the road to 9/11.

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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 01:40 PM
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6. Tried that but there are a lot of ali's and moham's in the transcript
Just a small sample:

Ali Haroun
Khalid Ali Waleed
Abu Ali
Ahmed Ali Lootah
Din Ali Mukhtar
Ali Batu

Khalfan Mohamed
Prophet Mohamed
Mohamed Ibn Tamiyeh
Mohamed Sadeek Odeh
Mohamed Rashed Daoud Al-'Owhali
Khalfan Khamis Mohamed
Mohammed Najibullah
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 02:41 PM
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7. Save the html as a text file to your hard disk, then open it
in a word processor that has more sophisticated search functions than your browser does.

Or use the google's site search function:

This search: site:ht tp://* "ali mohammed" got four hits

(fix broken "ht tp")

This search: site:ht tp://* "ali mohamed" got 20 hits
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:58 PM
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8. He just....disappears?
Maybe he was one of those known unknown does he get into Special Forces with that background? Something really stinks here...
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Bouvet_Island Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:24 AM
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9. How is sources?
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 11:56 AM
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10. Here's some sources I used for my timeline in addition to the transcript
Ali Mohamed: The Defendant Who Did Not Go to Trial
Mohamed, 48, is a former Egyptian intelligence officer who became a United States citizen and a U.S. Army sergeant assigned to a Special Forces unit at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. He left the U.S. Army in 1989 and in the early 1990s became involved in the Egyptian Islamic Jihad organization, which also worked with al Qaeda. He then trained fighters in surveillance techniques at al Qaeda camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Observers had expected Mohamed to be a key government witness against the four defendants during the trial, which began in January 2001. However, while his name was mentioned during testimony on contacts with El Hage and documents taken from his California home were entered into evidence, the former surveillance instructor never took the stand.

Mohamed's plea agreement with the government remains secret.

Ex US soldier admits embassy bombings
A former US Army sergeant has admitted involvement in the 1998 bombings of two US embassies in Africa in which 224 people were killed, 12 of them Americans.

Egyptian-born Ali Mohamed, 48, admitted conspiring with Osama bin Laden and others to murder Americans.

1993-1998: Al-Qaeda Double Agent Is Arrested and Then Released; Tells Secrets About al-Qaeda
Canadian police arrest Ali Mohamed, a high-ranking al-Qaeda figure. However, they release him when the FBI says he is a US agent. Mohamed, a former US Army sergeant, will continue to work for al-Qaeda for a number of years. He trains bin Laden's personal body guards and trains an al-Qaeda cell in Kenya that later blows up the US embassy there. Meanwhile, between 1993 and 1997 he tells secrets to the FBI about al-Qaeda's operations. He is re-arrested in late 1998 and subsequently convicted for his role in the 1998 US embassy bombing in Kenya. For five years he was moving back and forth between the US and Afghanistan. It's impossible the CIA thought he was going there as a tourist. If the CIA hadn't caught on to him, it should be dissolved and its budget used for something worthwhile, according to a former Egyptian intelligence officer.

Terror 'Blowback' Burns CIA

America's spies paid and trained their nation's worst enemies, reveals Andrew Marshall in Washington
The Independent
November 1, 1998
Last week, it was revealed that one of those under arrest is a former Egyptian soldier named Ali Mohamed, who is alleged to have provided training and assistance to Mr. bin Laden's operatives. Yet Mr. Mohamed, it is clear from his record, was working for the US government at the time he provided the training: he was a Green Beret, part of America's Special Forces.

1998 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd

The Ali Mohamed-FBI Bungle
By Peter Dale Scott, Pacific News Service
Posted on June 25, 2004, Printed on December 11, 2005 /
It is clear that important new evidence about al Qaeda has been gathered and released by the 9/11 Commission. But it is also clear that the commission did nothing when a Justice Department official, in commission testimony last week, brazenly covered up the embarrassing relationship of the FBI to a senior al Qaeda operative, Ali Mohamed. By telling the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) to release Mohamed in 1993, the FBI may have contributed to the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Kenya five years later.

The official testifying was Patrick J. Fitzgerald, U.S. Attorney for Northern Illinois, who prosecuted two terrorism cases involving Mohamed. As Fitzgerald told the commission, Ali Mohamed was an important al Qaeda agent who "trained most of al Qaeda's top leadership," including "persons who would later carry out the 1993 World Trade Center bombing."

Ali Mohammed
Ali Mohammed has one hell of a resume. A sergeant in the Egyptian Army, a sergeant in the U.S. Special Forces, and a member of al Qaeda who served as Osama bin Laden's chief of security. Along the way, he did a stint as an FBI informant and a CIA agent, things that make you go hmmmm... /
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Bouvet_Island Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 09:24 PM
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11. Thanks,
appreciate it.
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