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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:41 PM
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So, I'm I to believe
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 08:44 PM by warrior1
That 19 hijacker's with box cutters were able to completely bypass every safety device we have from:

A) NORAD
B) Our Military
C) Our Intelligence Agency's
D) Our Airport systems
E) Undermine the integrity of three buildings build to withstand impacts of jetliners.


Yet not take full credit by not using their correct names if they were in fact proud of their terrorist act, IE: 6 of 19 may have had their identities stolen.

Would this be a coincidence or something else?

How were they able to know that that NORAD and the Military wouldn't or couldn't respond in time?

That our intelligence agency's would ignore their plotting?
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:48 PM
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1. built to withstand
a much smaller impact, a 707.

it is amazing how even now people are able to bypass security.

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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:49 PM
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2. but the planes
Where was NORAD?
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:51 PM
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4. incompetance
from the top (*) on down.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 06:24 AM
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8. you mis-spelled "corruption"
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atfqn Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:37 PM
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6. NORAD
was shut down for the first time in its 44 something year history. That morning and that morning only, ever... Because the cia and the military were running some kind of civilian transport into a major building scenario. I know it sounds crazy but would the government lie to us? :sarcasm:
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:52 PM
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10. A 767 is not much bigger than a 707
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 12:52 PM by petgoat
400,000 pounds (max takeoff) v. 330,000 pounds. 20% more.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/design.html
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:51 PM
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3. It's like
I'm suppose to believe that John Kerry was ahead in the polls and over night he loses the margin of error?

Like mopaul said. They've lied about Iraq why should I believe them about 9/11.

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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:54 PM
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5. i think
what the real cover up is the incompetance, refusal to read warning signs and a failure to know what to do. the current regime is very arrogant and think they know it all (just look at their refusal to go outside the little circle of advisors). but they are very incompetant. they tried to force something in Iraq so they lied. their arrogance thought they could pull one over on the US public. but their incompetance shows thru in how badly the war is going and the lies being revealed.

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InaneAnanity Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:17 AM
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9. Explain
Explain to me how incompetance can explain how building 7 was demolished.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:59 PM
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11. "the real cover up is the incompetence"
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 01:24 PM by petgoat
That's certainly a thesis worth considering.

1. Al Qaeda smuggled explosives into both WTC towers and WTC7 and the
officials are covering it up because it embarrasses Marvin Bush's
security company.

2. Flight 93 was shot down and the officials are covering it up because
they're embarrassed that they shot it down just as the passengers were
regaining control.

Of course other aspects of the incompetence thesis are problematical.

If it was incompetence that led the FBI's Dave Frasca to squelch the Ken
Williams (Phoenix) investigation and the Colleen Rowley (Minneapolis)
investigation, why was Frasca promoted?

If it was incompetence that led the FAA to fail to call NORAD about
flight 93 though three planes had been flown into buildings and they
were evacuating airports in its flight path, then why was nobody fired?
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:04 PM
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13. your thesis
1) interesting theory.

2) i am definately interested in the theory that flight 93 was shot down. the * regime would have lots of reasons to cover it up (passengers trying to regain control, but wouldnt have there been a much wider debris field if the plane was shot down?
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:58 PM
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7. Good summary
Here is a video of Dr. Bowman (USAF retired):
http://truthemergency.us/movies/BoBBowman1.mov

Here he is in audio format:
http://truthemergency.us/mp3/GBdc8.mp3

Many other AV files here from the event in DC back in July:

http://truthemergency.us/pages/VideoAudio.html
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:04 PM
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12. Why no Barbara Honegger video? nm
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