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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 06:45 PM
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Plans for August 17th -- Terrorist Drill -- Gen. Byrnes, Tell us More!
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 06:58 PM by nonny
Hmm.... seems that some drills may not be drills.

http://www.northcom.mil/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.shows...

From the Northern Command website

Press Release
Exercise to focus on nuclear terror scenario
Posted Jun 29, 2005 at 1:00:PM MDT


FORT MONROE, Va. -- Heres the scenarioA seafaring vessel transporting a 10-kiloton nuclear warhead makes its way into a port off the coast of Charleston, S.C. Terrorists aboard the ship attempt to smuggle the warhead off the ship to detonate it. Is this really a possibility?

Joint Task Force Civil Support (JTF-CS) here is planning its next exercise on the premise that this crisis is indeed plausible.

Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be carried out as an internal command post exercise. The exercise is intended to train the JTF-CS staff to plan and execute Consequence Management operations in support of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IVs response to a nuclear detonation.

Some of this years objectives for SR05 are to refine nuclear incident Concept of Operations, produce a CM Operation Order, refine command post set-up procedures and maintain situational awareness of multiple CM incidents.

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From WAVY TV website

http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=3695802

(AP) - Officials plan to hold a drill next week to test Fort Monroe's readiness for terrorism.

Fort Monroe's anti-terrorism officer Bill Moisant says the emergency-response exercises will be held August 17th.

He says people entering the Army base can expect thorough security checks at gates, restrictions near emergency-response drill sites and temporary closure of some customer-service activities.

Moisant says the exercise could involve Hampton police and fire officials as well as other agencies.


From Journalnow.com

http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WS...

Friday, March 18, 2005
N.C. sites to be part of summer terrorism drill

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

SHALLOTTE - The largest terrorism drill in North Carolina history is being planned for August and will include a mock attack on the Sunny Point Military Ocean Terminal in Brunswick County.

Officials said Wednesday the drill will stretch from Fort Bragg to Morehead City in the state's central coast area to Brunswick County on the southeastern coast.

Emergency and law-enforcement units from Virginia to South Carolina have been invited to participate, as have those from the seven counties that surround Fort Bragg. Participation by military personnel and equipment will hinge on their availability.

The exercise is thought to be the first to test the new National Response Plan that takes effect next month and requires coordination among local, state and federal officials in terrorism and emergency response.

The idea came from Fort Bragg and the FBI, said Andy Albright, an exercise facilitator and civilian employee of the Coast Guard in Wilmington. Other military bases and state and local agencies were invited to join.

Planning for the drill has been going on for a year, Albright said.

The exercise is to begin with a weapons of mass destruction drill at Fort Bragg with some of the perpetrators escaping. Other events will occur over the next three days at or near other military bases in eastern North Carolina, at the State Port in Morehead City and in the Pamlico Sound.

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_____________________________________

Nuclear Terror Drill to Go Live? Let's Hope Not
by R. Leland Lehrman, 505.982.3609

http://physics911.net/nuclearterror.htm

snip-

Adding to the drama, the four-star commander of the Army's Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC) at the Fort Monroe base where the nuclear terror drill is to occur, Kevin P. Byrnes was just relieved of his command amidst allegations of sexual misconduct. Veteran investigator Greg Szymanski has uncovered another plausible motive: "Sources close to the military who remain anonymous said Byrnes was part of a U.S. military faction discontented with the Bush administration war policies in Iraq and the potential for a nuclear disaster in Iran.

In an effort to stop the Bush administration in its tracks, sources say Byrnes was about to lead a coup against the hawks in the military and executive branch determined to lead America into a global conflict, leading to devastating ramifications for the country, as well as financial and social chaos.

Rumors inside the military say that a growing faction of discontented high-ranking officers are attempting internally to try and stop the Bush administrations imminent plans for war with Iran in an effort to avert global war.

Although the exact number of high-ranking military involved is undetermined, sources have disclosed it appears to be evenly split between pro Bush and anti Bush factions.

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August 17th is next Wednesday
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 06:49 PM
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1. IIRC, there were drills happening on 9/11/2001 as well
with the Chimp & Co out of town :scared:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 06:50 PM
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2. And I heard a rumour that the were having "exercises" in London
the day of those bomings, but I never saw it confirmed anywhere.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 06:52 PM
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4. Ayuh. Scary, eh?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:23 PM
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20. Not rumor, it is fact and available of one looks for the truth.
..just as the truth of the 'war games' on 9/11

The non-response of NORAD and lack of defense of the Pentagon.
Testimony of Sentor Dayton and an interview with Dr. Bowman (Lt. Col. Ret. USAF) by Micheal Kane. He discusses the war games planned that very morning at the exact time the event occured.
Powerful 15 min....must see imho

http://innworldreport.net/video/2004-08-04/dayton.html
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:46 PM
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29. Listen to a BBC Radio 5 clip

I've posted it to my site - clip from BBC Radio 5, where Peter POwer, one of the bosses of the Visor company, describes the drills they were running on 7/7 in London. The important part comes near the end of the clip. (And you can google Visor to see what they do - UK gvt is one of their clients.)

http://www.tranglos.com/peterpower.mp3


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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:42 AM
Response to Reply #2
60. multiple confirmation of exersizes on 7/7
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 06:52 PM
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3. Nominated -- I'm going to suggest you change your subject line
to include something about the Gen'l Byrnes' connection. Please consider it. You've got up to an hour after your post to edit (you're probably already aware).

We had "drills" going on on Sept. 11, and also in London on 7-7.

I don't trust terrorism "drills" and "exercises" one little bit. The Byrnes connection is ... simply chilling.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 06:57 PM
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7. I usually write these 'they're going to MIHOP again' things off...
...but the Gen. Byrnes connection makes the hair stand up on my neck.

I didn't know that before.


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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:00 PM
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9. Call me ignorant but what's up with the Gen. Byrnes thing? n/t
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:08 PM
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15. Genl Byrnes is a 4-star genl who was just relieved of command
purportedly for reasons of "private conduct," which they're not sure if they're going to pursue criminally. :wtf:

HOWEVER, think about it: for this administration, there IS no real sin, crime, fault or failing OTHER than being disloyal, or critical of the administration or anyone in it.

Links I've collected:

Four Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Link: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/100805f...

General Kevin Byrnes: Fired for arguing with the Rumsfeld neo-con clique
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Removed from Duty
(see post #10 and this link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
and: General Kevin Byrnes: Fired for arguing with the Rumsfeld neo-con clique
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Myers: Possibility of third Iraq tours for active-duty troops 'always out there'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article...
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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. Thanks Eloriel -- included Gen. Byrnes n/t
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:03 PM
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10. Relieved of command for an "extra-marital affair? I smell
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 07:05 PM by rzemanfl
bullshit, what about Eisenhower and Kay Summersbey? The Army doesn't do this. Remember "Seven Days in May?"
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:06 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. The army does this
sexual conduct is something very delicate, but since bush took over, far too many Flag and General Level officers have been relieved for this.. this is where this should smell
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. Can you name any? n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. Head of a Navy Taskforce a two star
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 07:11 PM by nadinbrzezinski
relieved two weeks before eh shooting started, he was attacked to Pac Fleet and his carrier (flag ship) was the America iirc.

This is not the first TRADOC commander to be canned for this


I am sure they would have used the same excuse with Chinseki....

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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #13
23. Nazis fired many mil leaders before war b/c they disagreed with Hitler
many were accused of sexual misconduct

sorry for mentioning the forbidden words BUT similarities at times are striking
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. Yes, yest they are
these boys are Nazis, or at least good students
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:05 PM
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11. Removing the officer from command will NOT
I repeat WILL NOT stop a coup if one is in the works....

That said, 9.11 comes to mind, as well as page 48 of the PNCA plan
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:05 PM
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12. Oh, that's just great.
August 17the is my birthday, I live just up the coast from Morehead City and we're expecting a hurricane to possibly make landfall next Tuesday or Wednesday. Sounds like a fun week.
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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. Happy Birthday Island Blue
Road Trip?

:party:
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #12
33. HUGE surf today in RI
BIG tuff but some great riders..

WOW think sauron cheny will nuke the USA on the anniversary of WOODSTCOK?
8/15-8/17 1969 3 days of luv and peace

sauron coulda went..he did avoid that VN thing and thus could put on a wig and rocked with JIMI H.

But alas evil dcikie only enjoys mass murder and green backs

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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:40 AM
Response to Reply #12
50. Is August 17 also the date for all the former CIA chiefs to meet in DC ??
read that on another thread...
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:16 PM
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18. Fear of war with Iran - oil prices
I know about peak oil but the recent take off in oil prices is related to the apparent pattern of diplomatic and propaganda maneuver similar to that before the Iraq war.

A lot of intelligent critics of this regime can't believe that after the diaster in Iraq that this regime could be so stupid as to attack Iran. Logically, the stated policies justifying the war drums against Iran don't even make sense. The actions of a fascist regime don't have to make sense.

Check out this article on counterpunch.org:

http://www.counterpunch.org

Why is Cheney Lobbying for a Boost in China's Nuclear Capability?
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

<snip>The moronic Bush administration is all concerned about "weapons of mass destruction" where they aren't, not where they are. Why in the world is the Bush administration using up the US military and its weapons systems in Iraq, a country that was no threat whatsoever to the US, while aiding and abetting China's rapidly growing economic and military power?...

...Why does Cheney want to sell nuclear reactors to China, but order the US Strategic Command to prepare to nuke Iran's nuclear power capability, a capability that would allow Iran to sell more oil to an energy-starved world? <snip>


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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #18
32. One reason could be oil
One reason to give China nuclear power could be to reduce their demand for oil, which might reduce the price spike somewhat.


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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:21 PM
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19. The stock market on Monday and Tuesday will be the most telling signs
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 07:21 PM by jsamuel
:shrug:
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:24 PM
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21. Ahhhh Fuck, right where I live
figures....
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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:57 PM
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22. China and Russia joint exercises August 18-25
http://za.today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=...

BEIJING (Reuters) - China and Russia will hold their first joint military exercises in August, involving nearly 10,000 troops, officials said on Tuesday.

The exercises, dubbed "Peace Mission 2005", will be held from August 18-25 in Vladivostok in the Russian far east, and in the coastal Chinese province of Shandong and nearby waters.

Defence officials in both countries were anxious to play down any threat to other countries in the region, saying the drills would work on ways to combat international terrorism and internal strife.

"We are not talking at all about North Korea or Taiwan, There were no such talks... so there is no occasion to speak about any third country," Russian General Vladimir Moltenskoi, deputy commander of land forces, told journalists in Moscow.

He said the scenarios included resolving ethnic strife and destroying "terrorists" at a coastal strip with naval forces.

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China's official Xinhua news agency said on Tuesday the drills were meant "to deepen Sino-Russian mutual trust, promote mutual friendship and enhance the cooperation and coordination of the two armed forces".

The drills would also "help strengthen the capability of the two armed forces in jointly striking international terrorism, extremism and separatism", Xinhua said.

snip-

http://za.today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=...
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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:15 PM
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54. Today -- 8/16 this story (China & Russia) is on HuffPost -- n/t
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:23 PM
Response to Original message
24. years ago there was a TV movie about a ship, an a bomb, and terrorists
I think the good guys lost and the bomb went off.......it was toward the end of the 'cold war'

anyone remember this??????
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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. Could it be this?
This was a comment from Rigorous Intuition

The article is -- Things go sliding

And the comment is --

Anonymous said...
I refer readers to network movie from the 1980s "Special Bulletin" in which exactly the South Carolina scenario is played out - quite terrifying, I wonder if the planners of the maneuvers have seen it?

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/08/things-go...
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:52 PM
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26. sounds like it might be .................. thanks
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Taylor Mason Powell Donating Member (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #24
48. Yep. "Special Bulletin." 1983
Scared the bejeezus out of me when I was a little kid.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:32 PM
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27. sounds like I should arrange to be elsewhere on the 17th
Like the Netherlands or New Zealand.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:49 PM
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30. "Wild thing..

you make my heart sing..you make eevrything groovy.."

WOW so half the pentagon has the brains to fight TREASON of bush..not surprised by the other half


BUT justa reminder that TREASON is a crime that can include the death penalty

GLAD I never broke my oath to protect the US Constitution against all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC.

never was a deserter . never lost or had distorted military records and have many to vouch for my presence in 1969

It was not at Woodstock.






Truth filters please
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
interesting read..

www.cloakanddagger.de /

"CNN "Situation Room" CREATED BY
BUSH-CRIMINALS INSIDE THE PENTAGON!

Situation Room is classic military style thinking created by generals loyal to Dictator Bush to protect them against news of a revolt by Generals loyal to the U.S. Constitution from getting to the Public.

This is just some of what Wolf Blitzer is covering up. click"


www.whatdoesitmean.com/index798.htm
US Military Destroys Bomb Directed Against Chicago as Top Pentagon Doctor Killed In Helicopter Shoot-Down and US Secret Service Member Killed as United States Coup Continues

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers

"Numerous troubling reports from Russian Intelligence Analysts suggest that the Coup attempt currently underway in the United States is spiraling out of control and may soon break into open, and public, hostilities vying for control over the American Government. Particularly troubling is one report detailing an American Air Force F-16 attack upon a bomb laden truck bound for the American City of Chicago but destroyed before it could reach its intended target and as we can read an American sanitized version of this as reported by the Associated Press News Service in their article titled "Truck vaporized when cargo explodes" and which says;

"A truck carrying 35,500 pounds of explosives crashed and exploded Wednesday, leaving a huge crater in a Utah highway and injuring at least four people. The driver was able to get out and warn other motorists away before the truck exploded. But a passenger in the truck cab and other motorists were rushed to hospitals with injuries, Utah Highway Patrol Sgt. Todd Royce said."

According to Russian Military Analysts this American F-16 attack upon this massive truck bomb included Saudi Arabian F-16s which arrived yesterday in the United States, and as we can read as reported by the F-16.Net News Service in their article titled "Saudi Arabia joins Red Flag exercise for first time in 25 years" and which says, "For the first time in 25 years, Saudi Arabia joins in the Red Flag exercise at Nellis Air Force Base."

Russian Intelligence Analysts are speculating that the American President had requested these Saudi Arabian F-16 Fighters during his secret meeting this week with the Saudi Rulers (and which we had previously reported on in our August 8th report titled "Bush Flees United States for Saudi Arabia as Israel Accelerates Attack Timetable in Continuing Secret War with America, US Prepares For Martial Law") as their remains mistrust between President Bush and certain elements with the American Military Establishment."


GEE why don't CNN or msnbc or other MM shills carry this fun stuff instead of all war all the time..
AND they NEVER served in a war cept MAYBE imbedded in a tank
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #30
36. Well...
...at least one thing is inaccurate.

The truck bomb explosion in Utah - the truck was actually headed to Oklahoma. Driver error, looks like. That is one MONGO sized blast crater!

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600155076,00.html
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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 10:22 PM
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37. Wild thing --- I wanna know for sure
So what's the surf report for August 17..... wild?
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #37
38. sauron is sending a nuclear tsnuami to kill off the liberals
in New England

that evil dickie sauron cheney.. he coulda fulfilled all his hate /rage fantasies in VN where Uncle Ho Chi Mien had a real Army and gurilla forces to fight against.

he coulda killed commies until he became an aging Vet wearing luv beads and dying from Agent orange and PTSD.

BUT sauron has better things to do
CHIKENHAWK WAR MONGER BULLY COWARD

My bet is nothing is gonna happen but that hurricaine . so either way I get to boogey board the surf


'Wild thing..aw shucks you move me>>"



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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. "strangers in the night...
exchaging glances >>"
-jimi's solo in wild thing
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #40
41. luv it..
war mongers..why didn't their parents let em drop acid and smoke grass ?

worked for me..

'summer wind came rollin in from across the sea
it lingered there.....all summer long we sang the song.
.2 sweethearts and the summer wind..the atumn wind.."

war mongers!!

jealous cuz the hippies saw rt through em..


surfin through the apocalypse
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 12:25 AM
Response to Reply #30
44. the truth could be stranger than fiction
if this is the case, things are bout to get even far more interesting, and cuold very well be the begining of a civil war
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:54 PM
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31. Check out this from last night.......
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 09:55 PM by Gloria
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Died last night, but more about this "coup"



in foil, but: Byrne part of a beginning COUP??????????????


Don't know a thing about this site, but what the hell, I found it on a Clark list, of all places:



http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index796.htm

August 9, 2005

United States Military Forces Begin Coup, Top US General Arrested By Anti-Coup Factions, Russian and Chinese Military Forces Go To High Alert

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers

Russian Intelligence Analysts are reporting this evening that an apparent coup is taking place in the United States and that both Russian and Chinese Forces have been ordered to their highest non-nuclear defense status. This troubling news comes on the eve of joint Military exercises previously planned between both Russian and China, and as we can read as reported by the Guardian Unlimited News Service in their article titled "China and Russia flex their muscles as they join forces to play the war game" and which says;

"Next week will see far larger war games involving Chinese and Russian troops in and around the Shandong peninsula in the Yellow sea. Regional observers say such military cooperation is unprecedented and could mark the start of something new.

"The China-Russia exercise is intended to send a message to Taiwan," said Andrew Yang of the Chinese Council of Advanced Policy Studies in Taipei. "But it's also a very significant move in terms of the developing relationship between Russia and China and joint efforts to manage regional security. "China considers it's time to increase strategic cooperation with Russia to balance the US role in the region. Both are interested in demonstrating this is a multipolar rather than a unipolar world," Dr Yang said."

One of the Coup Leaders in the United States, General Kevin P. Byrnes, and who is also one of their top Military Generals, has been arrested and taken prisoner by US Counter-Coup Forces, and as we can read as reported by the Newsday News Service in their article titled Senior general is relieved of duties at commander of key Army training organization" and which says;

"The Army, in a rare disciplinary act against a four-star officer, said Tuesday it relieved Gen. Kevin P. Byrnes of his command after a Pentagon investigation into unspecified "personal conduct." Byrnes, a native of New York City, was relieved as commander of U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command on Monday by Army Chief of Staff Gen. Peter Schoomaker, according to a brief statement issued by Army headquarters at the Pentagon."

Russian Military Analysts are further reporting that US Military Forces still loyal to General Byrnes and the other Coup Leaders are continuing their preparations and as evidenced by a number of large scale Military movements within the Continental United States Regions. These reports further state that the Coup Leaders efforts are being hampered by the ordering last week of 7 Armor Brigades loyal to the Coup Leaders to depart immediately to the Iraqi War Zone.

MORE
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 10:03 PM
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34. Nonny thank you for this thread!
Good work through out..
From so many DUer's.
Hiley
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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 12:04 AM
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42. Thanks Hiley -- found another story
FEMA / NORTHCOM / MOSSAD 'Sudden Response 05' "drill" in August--cover for Bush's Iran attack?
author: Bush watch

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With the NORAD, Pentagon, FEMA, and NRO "exercises" on 9-11; the "terror drill" on 7-7 that was identicial to the real thing; the RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT OF A U.S. NUCLEAR TERROR DRILL here in the US in August (coupled with the booga booga of an "Iranian nuclear terror attack" flooding the corporate media to brainwash you should be a cause of concern. It's all a set up. Remember Cheney has just asked the Pentagon for pre-emptive war plans to attack Iran as well! It's all being set up formally, and then the spark will be set alight, and since the various levels of the trap that is to be sprung have already been set up, it will fall into place as an "attack" on Iran.

snip-

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/322255.shtml

So is this all about a reason to attack Iran?
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:46 AM
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45. oh yes..
I see this thread was moved to the dungeon..
bs this thread is the truth!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 10:14 PM
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:40 PM
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39. This is totally insane. That's why I don't put it past them.
The fact that we're even worried about this is a sign that our nation has been taken over by madmen.

:kick: :kick: :kick:
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 12:09 AM
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43. close
but sauron ain't quite ready for his victory jog around the bases and his victory smoke.oops .sorry

I wish soemone would drop LSD in the water supply in DC.

Abbey Hoffman levitated the pentagram..in 60s

I mean pentagon ..I should show respect to the lifers ..

once thought that they all valued the uniform.


well allegedly only half are with der fuhrer.. if this Bryrnes stuff is even a lil true..bush is in huge trouble..watch for his smirk to disappear..

I will buy the popcorn when all the US Military busheviks go on trial for espionage,sabotage and TREASON

WHADDA nice ring to those words!!!
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 01:04 PM
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46. Thank you for that information. Next Wednesday?
Too bad the General failed. I've been feeling something building for a while now...guess it's time to go check supplies, in case of Martial Law.
:scared:

do you think they'll actually DO something?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:01 PM
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47. kick and... oops! I'd LIKE to recommend it!
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 08:02 PM by Swamp Rat
:kick:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:37 AM
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49. Here are some related threads:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Thread title: 4 Star General FIRED before "nuke terror drill" set for August 17

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Thread title: CONFIRMED: There IS more to Gen. Byrnes firing and reporters are working

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Thread title: General Kennedy on General Byrnes - "Something is Amiss"

and for more background on the situation with nukes in Iran and the way the Administration is ignoring the best intellligence that they DON'T have them and won't for a long time:
This would fit all the hints of what is to come, all the pieces they have set into place:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Thread title: Three extremely important threads on Iran nukes & the Bush agenda

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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:48 AM
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51. Aug 16 -Tuesday_ all FORMER CIA chiefs will be meeting in DC
precedes this by one day.

Story on the CIA chiefs is in LBN here >>

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:14 PM
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52. More Details on Terror Drill
From -- All Hands Community

http://www.all-hands.net/pn/news_index1826.html

Crews to coordinate efforts for exercise
By Steve Jones
The Sun News

SHALLOTTE, N.C. - The largest terrorism drill in N.C. history is set for mid-August and will include some kind of attack on Sunny Point Military Ocean Terminal in Brunswick County, officials said Wednesday.


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Signs will be posted at some locations to notify the public that what is happening is an exercise and not a real event, Albright said.

"Our ground rule is nobody gets hurt, maimed or alienated," Albright said. "Nobody's going to get embarrassed."

"It will be a terrorist-led scenario," said Paula Brown, area coordinator for N.C. Emergency Management. "We will play it as if it were a real event."

Brown said state emergency management is working with the Coast Guard, the State Port Authority and the Ferry Division of the Department of Transportation.

Brown said the event will involve what will appear at first to be multiple, coordinated terrorist attacks. Part of the exercise is to involve the mock explosion of a weapon of mass destruction, which Albright said would likely be chemical rather than nuclear.

Randy Thompson, Brunswick County's emergency services director, said it has been 3 years since local emergency management has tested its response to a situation at Sunny Point.

The last time was when a boat loaded with munitions caught fire and burned at the terminal, the largest military munitions shipping point in the United States.
Terrorism drill timeline

Aug. 15 | A weapons of mass destruction situation will take place at Fort Bragg in Fayetteville, N.C., that will involve the Army, the Air Force at adjoining Pope Air Force Base and the FBI. The exercise may involve emergency and law enforcement from seven counties surrounding the base.

Aug. 16 | An as-yet undetermined event will take place at Seymour-Johnson Air Force Base in Goldsboro, N.C., and may involve response by local emergency and law enforcement units.

Aug. 17 | A vehicle will explode on the Cedar Island-Ocracoke Ferry in Pamlico Sound. Helicopter units from Cherry Point Marine Corps Air Station will rescue survivors and the Coast Guard and law enforcement agencies will secure the scene and determine whether the incident is connected with earlier ones.

An oil spill will take place at the State Port in Morehead City, N.C., that will involve response by the Coast Guard.

Aug. 18 | There will be the threat of a radiological dispersion device during a military offload at the Morehead City port, used by Camp Lejeune.

A small scale pneumonic plague will potentially spread from animals to humans beginning outside Camp Lejeune in Onslow County, N.C.

An as yet undetermined event will take place in or around Sunny Point Military Ocean Terminal in Brunswick County, N.C.

(Posted by: admin on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 10:08 AM )
http://www.all-hands.net/pn/news_index1826.html

__________________________________________________________

From -- Myrtle Beach Online

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/sunnews/news/local...

(Posted on Sat, Aug. 13, 2005)


Large ocean-rescue drill slated
By Steve Jones
The Sun News

ATTENTION -- this does NOT say that is is scheduled for Aug.
I read January and also Sept 2006 moved up. But it still may be important to see just what they are dreamin' up.


SHALLOTTE, N.C. - A mass ocean-rescue drill scheduled off the coast at the N.C.-S.C. border in January will be the first of its kind in the nation and, organizers hope, serve as a model for similar drills across the country.

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Horry and Brunswick emergency teams, Beans said, use different radio frequencies, and their ability to coordinate efforts in Calabash and Little River will be tested in the drill and exercise.

The drills will simulate the sinking of a casino boat and the rescue of up to 600 passengers.

The reason for the sinking still is being decided, but the response would be essentially the same if it were an accident or a terrorism incident.

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Chief Warrant Officer Dwayne Madray of the Coast Guard's Marine Inspections and Investigations office in Myrtle Beach said he hopes to recruit about 30 college students to portray victims in the January drill.

snip-

The full-scale exercise was originally scheduled for September 2006, but Beans said that date may be changed because of demand on personnel and equipment during tourist season.

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/sunnews/news/local...

________________________________________________

Anyone else find more details on this drill?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 05:15 PM
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53. I'd say this deserves a thread of it's own.
The info is important! Thanks!
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:28 PM
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55. kick
important
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:56 PM
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56. was this originally posted in GD?
If not, it should be!!
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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:05 AM
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57. Yes --- but it was moved here n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:43 AM
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61. GODDAMN IT.
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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:46 AM
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58. Truck explosion -- similar to the Charleston scenario?
American Coup to Prevent Nuclear Terrorism?
-- J. Burke


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In the Washington Post article, War Plans Drafted To Counter Terror Attacks in U.S., the plans to use the next terror attack as justification for martial law was made public.

The classified plans, developed here at Northern Command headquarters, outline a variety of possible roles for quick-reaction forces estimated at as many as 3,000 ground troops per attack, a number that could easily grow depending on the extent of the damage and the abilities of civilian response teams.

The rumors surrounding the truck explosion are similar to the Charleston scenario where A seafaring vessel transporting a 10-kiloton nuclear warhead makes its way into a port off the coast of Charleston, S.C. Terrorists aboard the ship attempt to smuggle the warhead off the ship to detonate it." On August 10, an explosives filled truck exploded in Utah before reaching its destination. The rumor is that it was attacked by the Air Force.

It was General Kevin P. Byrnes commander of the Army's Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC) at Fort Monroe who was relieved of his command. The same base where the nuclear terror drill was to occur. The charge? In a rare move, the Army relieved a four-star general of his command amid allegations that he had an extramarital affair with a civilian.

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http://www.sierratimes.com/05/08/13/194_105_124_70_1988...

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So...... how am I spose to sleep tonight?
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:38 AM
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59. Today is the day. However,
altough the pattern so far is that exersizes of the event were taking place during the actual event, those exersizes were not widely announced. And in cases where exersizes have been announced, there was no actual attack.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 07:42 AM
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62. Did anything happen? ( n/t )
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L.A.dweller Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 03:15 AM
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63. Mysterious underground explosion in San Francisco
These drills were to take place troughout the country...

Drill simulates response to nuclear attack

05:11 PM EDT on Thursday, August 18, 2005

By Lindsey Roberts, 13News

Troops at Fort Monroe in Hampton are conducting exercises this week to simulate response to a 10-kiloton nuclear device that explodes in Veteran's Pier in Charleston, South Carolina.

If a nuclear attack were to happen, this practice is critical so all federal, state and local agencies cleary understand their role in the relief effort.

"We are specifically designed as a part of U.S. Northern Command to come in after an incident like this and assist local responders with saving lives, preventing further injuries and restoring critical life support," noted Maj. Gen. Bruce Davis.

That support means everything from organizing supplies to flying in extra medical staff and clean-up crews.

Practicing now, officials believe, will save lives later.

"There are those out there that have stated their intent to hurt us anyway they possibly can and to not take that serious and not be prepared would be folly," Gen. Davis added.

These exercises are taking place at sites around the country to help agencies prepare for 15 different scenarios.

Organizers say this nuclear drill should not scare people but instead encourage them to learn how to protect themselves should an attack occur.

http://www.wvec.com/news/military/stories/wvec_military...

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Explosion in San Francisco injures woman

Fri Aug 19, 2:50 PM ET

SAN FRANCISCO (AFP) - An explosion damaged a storefront and injured a woman in central San Francisco, according to emergency workers.

The blast, which appeared to come from underground electric equipment, spewed flame and chunks of concrete and pieces of a metal utility hole cover, firefighters said.

"The explosion did occur in an electrical vault," said Paul Moreno of Pacific Gas and Electric, a local utility company. "We are definitely going to be inspecting our utilities, as soon as we can get in there."

Police and fire officials had a three-block area cordoned off while teams checked for traces of explosives or volatile gases.

"There was an awning burned and a manhole cover blew off," said fire department battalion chief Peter Haus. "Police and fire crews are working together to find out exactly what happened."

Police evacuated nearby buildings and streets to scour the area but found no traces of a bomb, according to firefighters. Some workers in offices on higher floors were instructed to "shelter in place" and not venture out to the street.

A witness, a bicycle messenger, said a woman who appeared to have suffered burns was taken away by ambulance.


"A big fireball just came right out the side of the building," said Rody Rosenbaum, was said he rushed to the street from his office after hearing the explosion.

Bomb experts from the local
FBI office were sent to assist police and police were criss-crossed the cordoned off area with dogs trained to sniff out explosives.

Explosion
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 04:06 AM
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64. Wow! No traces of a bomb found. Scary. ( n/t )
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 05:48 AM
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65. transfomers go boom
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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:39 PM
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66. Article by Al Martin -- Margolis, Chertoff, & Byrnes
Title of article:
The Plots Thicken: David Margolis, Michael Chertoff (Of the Devil) & General Kevin Byrnes

by Al Martin

this is an article that you have to pay to read ------ but I found it in it's entirety here.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/mparent7777/1973043.ht...

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The recent dismissal of the four-star general
sent a signal. General Kevin Byrnes was a four-star
general who was the head of TRADOC (Training and
Doctrine Command) in Hampton, Virginia.

This never been done. A four-star general has
never been dismissed from the service since the rank
was created. Furthermore, the dismissal of a four-star
general should have instigated Congressional hearings.

The Defense Oversight Committee is charged with
investigating the dismissal of ranking officers. For
example, when both Richard Secord and Jack Singlaub
were dismissed from the service by President Carter,
there were Congressional hearings held.

Now, for a four-star general to be dismissed
without any call by the opposition, (in this case, the
Democrats) for Congressional hearings and without the
Department of Defense providing a reasonable
explanation is unheard of.

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http://www.livejournal.com/users/mparent7777/1973043.ht...
read more
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