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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:09 AM
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TOM FLOCCO :"BUSH AND CHENEY INDICTED! "
I do not vouch for an of this and I am posting more as in wishful thinking

BUT the surf was excellent today!!

OK! Now I will put on my steel pot and flak jacket and unlock my 1950s era fallout shelter.

http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewt...

TOMFLOCCO.COM

"BUSH AND CHENEY INDICTED!

A Chicago grand jury has indicted the President and Vice-President of the United States along with multiple high officials in the Bush administration

Chicago -- August 2, 2005 -- TomFlocco.com -- U.S. federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's Chicago grand jury has issued perjury and obstruction of justice indictments to the following members of the Bush Administration: President George W. Bush, Vice-President Richard Cheney, Bush Chief of Staff Andrew Card, Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, former Attorney General John Ashcroft, imprisoned New York Times reporter Judith Miller and former Senior Cheney advisor Mary Matalin.

There were no indications given as to whether the President and his top staff members would appear publicly before the secret grand jury proceedings.

Besides the Valerie Plame CIA leak case, the Fitzgerald probe is reportedly far-reaching and expanding much deeper into past White House criminal acts involving Bush-Clinton drug money laundering in Mena, Arkansas to White House involvement in 9.11; but also war in Iraq and Afghanistan under false pretenses.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair was indicted for obstruction of justice and is reportedly consulting with members of Parliament and legal aides regarding how to avoid appearing in the U.S.A. for interrogation before Fitzgerald in Chicago. "
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:14 PM
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1. Does anyone know how reliable Tom Flocco is?
I would love for this to be true but sense that Flocco was fed some bullshit.

Moreover, even if this were true, what are the odds of Bush/Cheney being impeached over it?
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:32 PM
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2. credibility?
if by some long shot this is true then the MM will scramble to keep it down..

given that the MM is most likely corrupted by the same system as the bushcos..
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 04:33 PM
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4. That's the thing-- Flocco always publishes these articles you know are way
too sensitive for the MSM and we never hear anything else about it.

So either it is all crap or it has been suppressed. It's a problem knowing which is the case.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:25 PM
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3. It wouldn't surprise me if the media was given orders to suppress
this story. They've done it before ie. election fraud '04.

No doubt *Co will do damage control as much and for as long as they possibly can.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:37 PM
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5. Flocco's site isn't opening up.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 08:00 PM
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6. I can't get it to open up either...
this is what I'm getting...

This is the Plesk default page.

If you see this page it means:
1) hosting for this domain is not configured
or
2) there's no such domain registered in Plesk.

For more information please contact admin@whitestarwebsitedesign.com


:tinfoilhat:
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 08:22 PM
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7. Their site crashed
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 08:23 PM by Moochy
My guess is their content management / web server system, Plesk crashed. Either they got shut down, exceeded their bandiwdth or were hacked. I'm sure I'm ignoring other possiblities. :tinfoilhat:

This is what plesk does:


Plesk provides four tiers of administration: admin, client, domain, and mail name user. All can perform various tasks at remote locations via any standard Internet browser. Being a Domain user, you are provided with the following management capabilities:

* View domain statistics, and DNS zone settings.
* Manage subdomains
* Access domain registration and management services, SSL certificates and domain tools offered by MyPlesk.com
* Back up/restore domain data
* Manage mail accounts and mailing lists, enable spam filtering
* Create, edit, and delete domain web users, set up scripting capabilities
* Create, edit, and delete protected directories, manage the directory users, set up access with SSL or standard http
* Set up FTP services
* Manage databases: create, edit, and delete multiple databases and manage database users
* Manage SSL certificates.
* Deploy and manage domain applications
* Operate files and directories using the File Manager
* Access FrontPage (and FrontPage over SSL) directly from the control panel
* Manage log files and configure log rotation options
* Schedule and manage Crontab tasks
* Manage user sessions
* Use the Trouble Ticketing System to get technical assistance.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:01 PM
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9. THANX
Moochey for the more practical explanation..
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:09 PM
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11. It still may have been taken down by big brother :)
But my guess is the link which was being passed around as disinfo (?) probably was too popular. It sure made my heart skip a beat first time I saw it posted.

I'm confident that we'll see something from Fitzgerald, even if it ends up being Bush & Cheney and everyone Mr Flocco claims have been indicted, but everything I've seen seems to indicate a fall rollout. He's got until October to keep the Grand Jury empaneled, then he can ask for more time, indict, or the least likely option, do nothing.

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:44 PM
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12. Perhaps he forgot to pay for the domain name. That has happened to
the person that owns the site that I use for business.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:00 PM
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8. Wonder Why?
maybe those gentle folks in the CIA FBI are gettin bored??

I do have a suggestion for them

ARREST the traitors in the WH and help us restore the USA to sanity!!!!

so inother words ..DO YOUR TAXPAYER FUNDED JOBS?/

J EDGAR must be puking thinking that the bush royalty was allowed to steal the USA...
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:04 PM
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10. Why would they care?
no one knows who Flocco is - why draw attention to him?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:03 AM
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13. This page is back up but the first page of the site is still down. n/t
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:18 PM
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14. Arctic Beacon Covers Story
Federal Whistle Blower Claims Chicago Grand Jury Indicted Bush And Others For Perjury and Obstruction Of Justice; U.S. Attorney's Office Says 'No Comment,' Refusing To Confirm Or Deny Alleged Indictments

Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation into the Valerie Plame-CIA leak has now spilled over into Bush administration lies involving 9/11 and the war in Iraq, according to sources close to the Chicago probe.

August 2, 2005
By Greg Szymanski


Sources close to the Chicago federal grand jury probe into perjury and obstruction charges against President Bush and others said indictments were handed down this week, but a spokesman for the U.S. Attorneys Office of the Northern District of Illinois refused to comment.

We are not talking about any aspect of this case and our office is not commenting on anything regarding the investigation at this time, said Randall Sanborn from the office of U.S. federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, the attorney conducting the grand jury probe into whether Bush and others in his administration violated federal law in a number of sensitive areas, including the Valerie Plame CIA leak case, involvement in 9/11 and the illegal nature of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In December 2003, Fitzgerald was named Special Counsel to investigate the alleged disclosure of the identity of who leaked information in the Plame case, but the present grand jury probe has expanded to include the wide-reaching crime allegations as new information surfaced.

Although the U.S. Attorneys office in Chicago is staying silent, it is well known that Fitzgerald is digging deep into an assortment of serious improprieties among many Bush administration figures based, in part, on subpoenaed testimony provided by former Secretary of State Colin Powell.


http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/30...
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carlvs Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:42 PM
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15. arcticbeacon.com?!?
Oh, you must mean the the site that provides links not only to the long-banned America Free Press, as well as one to a to a site that thinks that this piece of trash is a noble work... :puke:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:02 PM
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16. Didn't know about that-just thought people would like to see the story...
:shrug:
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 08:24 PM
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18. Credibility
is in the eyes of the beholder..

Its proven that the MM
is govt propaganda..war... war ...war.....

so silencing of the other than MM sources
does not expose the busheviks for thier many crimes

Flocco is on to something or its just more disinfo??

I dunno..

when ya get the Truths about the current crisis

I sure would appreciate a heads up!!

seems to be alot of that going around

when ya get the Truths about the current crisis

I sure would appreciate a heads up!!

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:12 PM
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19. Yes let's all stay with that MSM
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 09:13 PM by seemslikeadream
They'll tell us everything we need to know




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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:21 PM
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21. thought police
won't gimme no peace...

I votin for thaT lil grey lizrd in the geoico commericlas ..at least the lil reptile can smile without smirking

so many repuke criminals..such limited time..WOW
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 04:48 PM
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17. citizenspook blog does interviews and analysis...
http://www.citizenspook.blogspot.com /


TREASONGATE: White House Indicted? - US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE "ISSUES" OFFICIAL COMMENT
Citizen Spook has interviewed a representative of Randy Sanborn's office at the Dirksen Federal Courthouse in Chicago where the Fitzgerald investigation is headquartered. Randy Sanborn is the official spokesperson for the US Attorney's Office in the Northern District of Illinois. Sanborn is also the official spokesperson for Patrick Fitzgerald.

It's crucial to ask the right questions, and the right questions need the right words. The political and legal environment we find ourselves in at this strange moment in American history is centered upon the manipulation of citizen perception. We have been asked to endure a President who can say with a straight face, "That depends on what the meaning of is, is." And the current right wing lunatic harbingers of Treason are flogging a defense in the Valerie Plame affair based upon the ridiculous assertion that there's a difference between outing "Valerie Plame" and outing "Joe Wilson's wife".
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:18 PM
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20. WOW
CS is an attorney..gives great legalese..


I could not acces his blog but read his words and interpretations..


keepin my fingers crossed and my mind as clear as possible

THANX LOD
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:25 PM
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22. Did you read the interview?
CS: "Regarding Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation, has the US Attorney presented any Indictments to the grand jury for deliberations?"

Female assistant: "No comment."

CS: "Is the grand jury currently deliberating over any indictments?"

Female assistant: "No comment."

CS: "Has the grand jury returned any true bills?"

Female assistant: "No comment."

CS: "Has the grand jury returned any not true bills?"

Female assistant: "No comment."

CS: "Has the grand jury returned any bills of ignoramus?"

Female assistant: "No comment."

CS: "Has your office issued any Indictments?"

Female assistant: "This office has not issued any indictments."
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:29 PM
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23. NO COMMENT!
Kool my mama always said being a lawyer was an easy racket..

NO COMMENT


"So when Randy Sanborn's office released official statements to me this morning, "on the record", which said, "This office has not issued any indictments," and "No Indictments have been issued by this office", the US Attorney was telling the truth, was not in violation of the FRCP secrecy laws, and in no way denied Tom Flocco's report that the "grand jury" has issued indictments"

NO INDICTMENTS

NO COMMENT

Got me a new ocean mantra!!!
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:57 PM
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24. BUSH FALLS [ HUMOR}
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 11:57 PM
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25. Slow physics for a slow man.
Gotta love it.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:00 AM
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26. glad ya liked it
my pal from britain sent it..
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:08 AM
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27. I've got him stuck between some balls for now.
Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 12:17 AM by lady lib
That seems like an appropriate place to keep him - LOL.

My kids were watching me play with this. Comments from the lib kids:
"Pick him up and throw him hard against the bubbles!"
"Is he ever gonna hit the ground?"

Oh, I taught them well ;)

Edit: Playtime is over. Back to Flocco.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:13 AM
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28. good girl!
my lil guy saw some of swamp rats art and asked why the evil man was changing colors??

then he screams .."HES A LIZARD"!!

7 yrs on 8/8

in training to whip the devil..

ah from the mouths of babes
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:46 PM
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36. HAHAHAHA!!! They're gettin' smarter everyday.
:D

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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:02 PM
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29. "The "I" Words"

I like this article.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_carol_wo_050806...

The "I" Words

Impeachment and indictment.... Words which bring us hope that the curse of the

by Carol Wolman

http://www.opednews.com

"There are two "i" words floating around today, impeachment and indictment. Either or both of them could bring down Bush and his evil cabal. They bring us hope that the curse of the neocons will be lifted from America, and freedom, justice, peace and prosperity will return.

"Impeachment" is whispered in the corridors of power and muttered in anger throughout the land. There is plenty of grounds- lying us into Iraq, allowing the outing of a CIA agent, lying to Congress about the cost of Medicare "reform", many other matters.



Psalm 97: 2Clouds and darkness are round about Him: righteousness and judgment are the habitation of His throne.

If we work at arousing the people to the necessity for impeachment at the same time that Fitzgerald does what he needs to do, we will rid the government of the plague that has descended upon us."
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:07 AM
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30. Another source on this story: Skolnick
One or more of the grand juries have concluded their probe and have voted True Bills, Federal Criminal indictments, against George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, "Scooter" Libby, Condoleeza Rice, and Theodore B. Olson; and several media people not previously mentioned in the monopoly press as implicated. Shown as unindicted co-conspirators are two Judges on the U.S. Supreme Court, William Rehnquist and Antonin Scalia, who are among the Gang of Five also in Bush versus Gore.

Because of the horrendous consequences involved, the Indictments are suppressed and there may be an extended delay until they appear on the Chicago Federal Court open records.

The substance of the details in this story have been confirmed to us as being true and correct by high government officials, with spotless records, of the U.S., Canada, and Europe.

To distract from the impending release of the indictments and the naming of the unindicted co-conspirators, the Bush White House has caused deadly rumors to circulate.

Such as, that the FBI is tracking in the District of Columbia and elsewhere that certain supposed "terrorists" have suitcase dirty nukes ready to set off in D.C.

Such as, that Bush will declare Martial Law and suspend Habeas Corpus, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Such as the U.S. will be wracked with financial and domestic anarchy as Bush seeks asylum in Brazil, or Australia, or elsewhere overseas.

http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/S_284_S/Overthrow%20...
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:51 PM
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31. Justice In Chicago To Mediate Resolution
Prominent Chicago Judicial Watch Dog Claims U.S. Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens In Chicago To Mediate Resolution Concerning Grand Jury Indictments Against Bush And Other High-Level Officials
Sherman Skolnick, the long time 'judge buster' and advocate for judicial honesty, claims Newsweek story will hit news stands Monday, claiming Bush will fire Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald. Skolnick also contends Bush has been given two options: either resign or stop the grand jury.

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/31...
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 03:42 PM
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33. another coincidence
LP

stevens is givin some speech..

funny about the word coincidence..its almost con cidence
and I gave up on coincidence in the VN war..which BTW the current WH occupants seems to have avoided..hmmm

bush in stripes is the goal..

my dream is bush was arrested..
and my dreams have been known to come true..
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 03:39 PM
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32. The last days of tyranny..
and ya NEVER thought it could happen here...


every dirty trick in the book is about to come out

I pray the good folks in govt, the US military and Law enforcement
do their jobs and arrest the treason in DC..

Most criminals do not leave witnesses no matter how much you have helped them..

COM-ON FBI CIA INTELL..
Treason was committed when bush/cheney lied into war and this is based on the other possiblity that bush is complicit in 9/11

NOW ARREST THE CRIMINLAS and quit hassling law abiding citizens

BE the HERO/HEROINES
or be the goat worshippers

Its your choice..!!
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:02 PM
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34. A new post on citizenspook
http://citizenspook.blogspot.com /
Monday, August 08, 2005
TREASONGATE: The US Attorney General's Office AND President Bush Have NO LEGAL AUTHORITY To Remove Patrick Fitzgerald As Special Counsel
The Attorney General, Acting Attorney General or any other officer of the Department of Justice has NO LEGAL AUTHORITY to remove Special Counsel Fitzgerald from the Treasongate investigation or prosecution-- AND -- President Bush does NOT have the legal authority to fire Patrick Fitzgerald in his capacity as "Special Counsel".

Analysis of federal law (involved with both the appointment of -- and authority granted to -- Special Counsel Fitzgerald), Comey's press conference of December 30th, 2003, and Decision B-302582 (September 30, 2004) issued by the Government Accounting Office, leads to the following legal conclusions:
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:28 PM
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35. CS rocks
so do u LP

'keep your love alive..keep your love alive..."

I love my USA.and these traitors are gettin pink slipped..
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