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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:13 PM
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Read this: Bin Ladens revealed U.S. govt plans about WTC attacks in 1987
Bin Laden Brothers Tip-Off Two NASA Research Scientists In 1987 About U.S. Government Plans To Cause 9/11; Now Third Person Comes Forward To Verify Scientists' Incredible Story
Besides the tip-off about 9/11, one of the researchers involved in a government-funded advanced brain development program says she uncovered a secret study called "Global Cleanse 2000" outlining U.S. Government strategies for intitiating global war and population reduction.

July 27, 2005
By Greg Szymanski

Rene Welch cut a deal with the devil, a deal she recently broke when she went public about her two 1987 encounters with Saudi royals, including two of the bin Laden brothers who claimed the U.S. government was actively involved in pre-arranging 9/11.


The meetings with the Saudis took place in Sedona and Pleasant Valley, Arizona, and lasted more than eight hours each time, the bin Ladens revealing in 1987 detailed plans how the U.S. government was planning to attack the World Trade Center, kicking off a global catastrophe, including a massive war in the Middle East.

And Welch not only learned about the U.S. governments pre-planning of 9/11 from the bin Ladens back in 1987, but this week from her Albuquerque home Welch added more, saying when working for NASA as a scientist on brain development research in Phoenix, she obtained a secret computer code and was able to uncover the findings of a government-funded project titled Global Cleanse 2000, a study outlining strategies for global war and population reduction.


But I am going to release the information and tell my story in a book because these people are evil and want to destroy America. There is a global catastrophe right around the corner and they may even make it look like a natural disaster. But I saw the plans back in the 1980s and after 9/11. I know it is going to happen unless we quickly get Bush out of power.

Welch and Logsdon became aware of this radical element in our government, trying to create this new world order, when they worked together as scientists at NASAs Application Technical Center Institute in Phoenix.

New world order...mind control...drug injections...population reduction. Wow. Read the entire article and tell me what you think. Is Welch's story credible or is she creatively selling us a book?


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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:00 PM
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1. The TIMING of this is significant
By 1987 the WTC had proven unprofitable...covertly demolishing it after taking out plenty of insurance on it would suit the interests of those with major ownership of the WTC. And then there were all the propaganda benefits of any "terrorist" event which could be used as a pretext for invading oil-rich Middle Eastern countries.

It's no wonder this came up during the Reagan Administration!
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:10 PM
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2. Have I heard this before? or was there a similar story
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 10:14 PM by philb
where someone else was told something similar?

Why do these 3 say they kept it secret, and why would the bin Laden's have told these 3? And why not someone more likely to do something if the bin Laden's were serious about getting the story out?

When is the book due out? Is anyone planning to take a lie detector test?

But its not entirely new. something like this was known about as an update of Operation Northwoods:

1976 - Operation Northwoods, a plot by U.S. intelligence/military for a terrorist plot carried out in the U.S. to be blamed on Cuba as pretext to overthrow Castro,
was updated when George Bush was CIA Director to take out the WTC buildings using airplanes and blame the event on Arabs. /
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 01:16 AM
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3. I want to know more about
I want to know more about Greg Szymanski.

I want to know what Philip J. Berg thinks of him, for one thing.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:36 PM
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8. His site is
Syzmanski reported Wm. Rodriguez' account of his experiences and heroism on 9/11. In his article he mistook the time. I wrote to him, telling him that the time frame he gave appeared to be wrong, and he couldn't understand why I thought that his misquoting the time was significant. I wrote back to him and he finally got it. I believe he has corrected it since. A few days later I heard an interview with Rodriquez and the critical time frame he gave was indeed different from Syzmanski's report. Ergo, be careful as to what he details, as it isn't one of his strong points.

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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 06:31 AM
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4. If she has document...
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 06:34 AM by StrafingMoose
no matter how flimsy they are to support her claims and she does not get a libel suit, you can pretty much say she's on something (at least, partly right). Silence is also a sign.

That's like me publishing a book saying "OMFG!! The pope is dealing drugs!!11" but I have phony documents to support it, you can bet I'll get my ass dragged into court and proven a liar quickly.

BTW, Northwoods is 1962 I beleive.

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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:48 AM
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5. See message
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:47 PM
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6. I appreciate everyone who took the time to share their thoughts.
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 10:48 PM by lady lib
If Welch is for real and not delusional, I hope she's able to get that book written (and that she doesn't have any "accidents").

Your know between Rene Welch and Indira Singh (who comes across as more credible to me), I'm getting really worried that something major is is going to happen in the next year or two. I've just recently wrapped my mind around the likelihood that B*** Co. was complicit in 9-11 and now we find out that they were raping boys at Abu Ghraib. They want to sow hatred and discord around the world, and they're leaving our ports and chemical plants unprotected as though they want us to be attacked. It's keeping me up at night.

Sorry for the rant, but I'm worried and heartsick right now.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:11 PM
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7. get ta no your enemy..
it will empower ya and make ya feel better to be a good guy or oops good gal..

TREASON is in the veins of the rich and powerful..
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