The election and 9/11

[Last Lemming]

So there are some very bad facts out there about the administrations complicity in-with 9/11--and people willing to state them--seems to me that one way to anhiliate the Republican Party (not that that's the reason to pursue this) is to bring forth this evidence--this is the kind of stuff any pol would want on his opponent--blackmail bait if ever I saw it--this is nuclear stuff

I don't accept that all Democrats are participating in the cover-up--though clearly that's an easy argument to make given their response to date

the biggest crime of my lifetime is not this election--(though it's only after seeing how deeply the Republican Party was involved in election fraud that I could entertain darker thoughts)-- it is 9/11--our commintment to getting the truth out and bringing those responsible to justice--no matter whom--should be as important securing voting rights And might they in some way be all of one piece?

[Al-CIAda]

1. You are correct sir.

PNAC, Dominionists, etc...

[No Exit]

2. You make a good point

I'm tired of hearing people say "conspiracy theories" or "tin-foil hats" when it comes to even questioning what really happened regarding 9/11. While I can't explain every little detail, I feel very confident in concluding that 9/11 was NOT what it is represented to be.

Anyone who has read history knows that there is more to events like 9/11--and the OKC bombing as well--than meets the eye. The main question to ask is, "Cui bono?"

Online Journal has some good, well-researched information on this, if people would bother to read it b/f they cry "conspiracy theory!" The powers-that-be always count on people's fear of ridicule to keep them from asking questions.

[RawMaterials]

8. what if the election didn't relay matter at all

this also would help explain why the democrats are being so agreeable to the Republicans, and why Kerry so quickly gave up.

911 was a cou die ta, the military is now in control of our country and government the rest is just for show.

how come no one ever found out who was behind the weapons grade anthrax that happened to go to the democratic head of the senit??

[No Exit]

10. Haven't you heard? It DIDN'T matter.

The military isn't in control of our country--the Carlyle Group and its allies are.

Why they never told us the truth about the anthrax? Because the makers of Cipro got their windfall profits. Oh--and the Department of Dementia was probably going to try to claim Saddam was sending anthrax to Americans. Too bad the anthrax turned out to be Ames strain from Fort Detrick, USA, and too bad it's so well-known how much WE gave to Saddam in the 80's. Ha ha.

[roenyc]

15. i am with you all the way

just want them to answer those questions! thats all. start there. they all will fall. and the cover up is huge.

[Quakerfriend]

3. Yes, Last Lemming I am in total agreement on this

I believe that this is the scandal that will bring this cabal down. I believe that this may in fact be the reason for the deafening silence on both sides of the aisle. Something big is coming, and it may not be on Jan 6th, regardless of our hopes and despite the all important problems re:the state of elections in this democracy.

[Last Lemming]

4. I was trying to figure out why they would hold off on Condi Rice's

confirmation hearings and it occurred to me that this would be a perfect forum for some excrutiatingly difficult questions--in fact--how do they expect to get through this with her?

Does anyone see any sign that the truth may come out?

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

5. Unfortunately No

I don't see any signs that any truth will come out. And the election FRAUD should be the bigger story. If the Shrub administration actually was guilty of anything with 9/11, all their stealing of the election will do is enable them to do something like this all over again. Obviously the MSM could care less, and will report any criticism of 9/11 as "conspiracy theorists."

[jmannatl]

6. Does anyone see any sign that the truth may come out?

Ha ha ha.

If Rice- or any of the rest of them- haven't spilled yet, they never will. Unless you count Rummy's "oops" in the Christmas Eve speech in Iraq.

[flyarm]

12. NO NEVER! NOT NOW , NOR EVER!

FROM A 33YR AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT ATTENDANT NY BASE 2001 FLT ATTEND OF THE YEAR N.Y BASE

BUSH HAS ALREADY BURIED THE TRUTH !
and so have the so called commissioners who all but 2 of are under payroll by the Saudi's!
fly

[passy]

7. 9/11, it's just so 2001!

I mean everybody has surely forgotten all about it.
When the serious questions weren't asked at the time do you really think they will be asked now. The same with election 2004, it's already last year's news.
The way the govt handled 9/11 just shows you that they can get away with anything, so when people you know are disappeared and they shut down DU, I hope you won't be surprised.
They might already have booked your ticket to Guantanamo, you unpatriotic disruptor!

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

9. We'll Smoke Em' Out

We can't find osama? Oh well...he's not important anyways.

People have a 22 minute attention span, equal to the length of a sitcom w/o commercials. They've already forgotten 9/11, and will be ready to accept the next 9/11 if and when it finally happens. Then the repubs can claim to be tough on terrorism again.

osama will die some day of natural causes like arafat. And we probably still wouldn't be able to find him then...if we're even still trying to capture him now.

[savistocate]

14. There is a still unreleased CIA Report __LATimes 10/19/04

Family members of victims especially plus House members have requestedthis be released. Suppressed by WH til after election-. More explicit than anything previous of
administration offcls at highest level not doing their jobs..not focused to dealing with real threats.

It would seem we have heard testimony sufficient to sink this conniving cabal--apparently there is more. This would fit with delaying Rice nomination hearing.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion
/la-oe-scheer19oct19,1,4661444.column

If link not accessing ck opinion sect -rbt scheer

[seejanerun]

11. Everything is Connected

My eyes have been opened by this election and by the very informative posts on this site. The links have led me to some very good books on the subject of how everything is connected: Crossing the Rubicon by Michael Ruppert and The New Pearl Harbor by David Griffin are two of them.

These books are not easy to read, but the information about government complicity in 9/11 is out there. Election rigging is fairly simple stuff compared to the other things that are going on.

And now that we have the information, what do we do with it? I have come to the conclusion that most people would rather live with illusions than deal with the complex and disturbing information that is presented on this site and in these books.

[graphixtech]

18. "9/11 Truth: The Key to Systemic Change"

Refreshingly honest post seejanerun.

You ask: "And now that we have the information, what do we do with it?"
You might check the 911Visibility.org website and see if there is an action
group in your city. It is beneficial to our well being to network (in person)
with other citizens who have similar concerns.
http://septembereleventh.org/

This is part of a recent outreach note . . .
"Given the momentum and added strength of the corporate forces now in
power, citizens will face unending appeals this year to combat
firestorms on many different fronts.

"We can struggle to prioritize our donations to stop war atrocities,
environmental assaults, our grandkids' ballooning debt, attacks on our
rights and Constitution, the shredding of the social safety net, and a
dozen other centrifugal symptoms of the sickness at the top.

"OR we can step back a pace or two and see where all this carnage
connects and focus our resources on tactics that would stop it all at once."
(much more) - DK

You may be interested in David Ray Griffin's new book which is the most
highly recommended book about the 9/11 Commission's Report:
http://www.interlinkbooks.com/Books_/911CommRep.html
"The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions
A Critique of the Kean-Zelikow Report
By David Ray Griffin


To learn more about the 9/11 Truth Movement:

www.911truth.org/

[nmoliver]

13. it's not either/or

It's not either/or. To the contrary, the free pass that Bush received in 2000 made 9/11 possible for him.

Another free pass will pave the way for even further atrocities against Americans and against humanity.

[roenyc]

16. its in eliot spitzers hands

[savistocate]

17. That too - Spitzer prosecuting

The reference to this CIA report suppressed by Goss & former Director can be linked from--
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=04/10/20/8656511

[spooked911]

19. you're spot on -- I'm with you all the way.

we have to uncover the truth about 9/11-- it is essential for the future of this country, IMHO.

[pberq]

20. Yes - we need put the truth out

Agreed. We need to educate ourselves about the actions and statements made by all major players. This is much more useful than debating structural issues in the WTC, or what hit the Pentagon, etc.

An important resource is "Crossing the Rubicon". The endnotes alone, mostly taken from mainstream sources, are enough to indict the administration:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0865715408/qid=1105559389/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/104-3377122-6681503

One very important aspect of this is the economic forces at work. The fact that the 9/11 Commission didn't want to investigate the insider trading before 9/11 speaks volumes. Michael Ruppert discusses this in detail in the book.