Brilliant Index Provided For 9/11 Commission Report

[Bolo Boffin]

http://www.nplusonemag.com/toward-index-9-11-comission-report

This is the document routinely dismissed and trashed by 9/11 Truth advocates here. This proposed index shows just how damning the 9/11 Commission Report really is for the Bush Administration. An excerpt:

Rumsfeld, Donald
before 9/11
— chairs 1999 panel to discuss limited ability to assess ballistic missile threat to US, 91
— selected to be secretary of defense for the second time, 198
— chats with Rice daily over the phone, 200
— agrees that "tit-for-tat" responses are counterproductive, 202
— thinks too much time had passed to respond to USS Cole bombing, 202
— focuses on creating a 21st century military, 208
— notes his own interest in terrorism, 208
— receives order to "develop contingency plans" for attacking al Qaeda and Taliban targets, 208
— doesn't "particularly want this mission," 208
— stalls al Qaeda and Taliban attack plans, waiting for Bush's signature to give order, 208
— gives principal attention to other challenges, 352

after 9/11
— goes to parking lot to assist with rescue after Pentagon is struck, 37
— unreachable by NORAD, Bush, 38, 40
— speaks to Bush but does not discuss shootdown, 43
— talks to Cheney about shootdown, 43
— gains situational awareness, 44
— joins "war council," 330
— urges Bush to "think broadly" about attacking Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, and Iran, 330
— tapped to develop military plan against Taliban, 331
— attends disappointing briefings about attacking Afghanistan, 332
— told by Bush to ensure that robust counterterrorism measures be taken by US troops worldwide, 333
— has instinct to hit Bin Ladin and Saddam Hussein at the same time, 335
— pushed by Wolfowitz to attack Iraq, 336
— exclaims, "The cost-benefit ratio is against us!" 374
— calls executive branch "stove-piped" and requests "wide joint effort," 403

Much, much more at the link.

[Bolo Boffin]

1. Another one:

Moussaoui, Zacarias
— code name "Sally," 246
— Commission's belief that he was prepared as spare fourth pilot in case Jarrah's girlfriend convinced him to drop out, 246-247
— initially slated for "second wave" of attacks, 247

as perfect example of intelligence breakdown
— carelessness of disapproved by KSM, 247
— August 13, 2001, begins flying course in Minnesota, 273
— acts funny, says he only wishes to learn how to "take off and land," and tells school he wants training as an "ego boosting thing," 273
— unexplained $32,000 in the bank, 273
— arrested, 273
— August 22, with help of French intelligence, he is connected to Chechen rebel leader with al Qaeda ties, 274
— Minneapolis FBI agent demands immediate action; is rebuffed by headquarters; says angrily that he is "trying to keep someone from taking a plane and crashing into the World Trade Center," 275
— condescending reply from headquaters that this would not happen, 275
— FBI drops ball, 275
— George Tenet drops ball after "Islamic Extremist Learns to Fly" briefing, 275
— Commission's judgment: "publicity about Moussaoui's arrest and a possible hijacking threat might have derailed the plot," 276

A big screaming headline from the government about Moussaoui may have completely tanked the entire plot.

[apocalypsehow]

2. Excellent! Bookmarked for future reference. n/t.

[zappaman]

3. Why?

Do you support BUSHCO?
:sarcasm:

[BeFree]

6. Heh

The best sarcasm was this one: "....just how damning the 9/11 Commission Report really is for the Bush Administration."

[Bolo Boffin]

7. You should check out the index. The report really does damn the Bush Administration.

It's going to take a lot to get through that confirmation bias of yours, but you ought to try. The truth is a nice thing to know, and as often as you advocate for it, you should try accepting it every once in a while.

[BeFree]

8. The 9/11 whitewash ?

It was a slap on the wrist at best. At worst just an horrific whitewash and a failure of the government to be made accountable.

You wanna hear a real damning of bushco? Yeah, I'm fucking biased alright.

[Bolo Boffin]

9. You want truth? There's truth at the link.

A long list of facts in the 9/11 Commission Report that show just how uninterested the Bush Administration was in defending this country from a clear and present danger.

And you're so wedded to your biases that you won't even go look. You don't DARE go and look. No, you'll just sit here and vehemently fulminate against the people trying to show you the truth.

[BeFree]

10. Huh

I don't need a website to tell me that. It's been called LIHOP from day 3.

But, y'know what, I am glad you read that site. You do seem a bit wiser these days.

[Bolo Boffin]

11. BeFree, I haven't changed. Not a bit. n/t

[whatchamacallit]

4. What an awesome week it's been on DU

I've learned a lot and seen some very gratifying things. Thanks Bolo! :rofl:

[Bolo Boffin]

5. Whatever. n/t

[noise]

12. Thanks for determining the appropriate guidelines for dissent

Much appreciated. Also helpful the way you encourage the DU community to embrace the work of the 9/11 Commission. That said I am somewhat disappointed you didn't put in a plug for Farmer's tour de force.

[SDuderstadt]

13. I seem to recall "truthers" jabbering that the jig would be up...

for the "perps" once Farmer''s book came out. It's funny to watch them turn on him now.

[noise]

14. That is a great point

His publicity campaign of out of context quotes was genius.

[SDuderstadt]

15. I don't think they were out of context at all...

the "truth movement" just read what they wanted into them.

[Red Dwarf]

16. Rumsfeld is a war criminal

What did you expect?

[Bolo Boffin]

17. I'm well aware of that.

What did YOU expect?

[rschop]

18. Brilliant index of a totally flawed 9/11 commission report

It is clear that the 9/11 Commission never followed up on the information they had and found the real reasons that the CIA information on the Kuala Lumpur al Qaeda planning meeting in January 2000 and the fact that Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi had been at this meeting planning the Cole bombing was never given to the FBI criminal agents that could have used this information to prevent the attacks on 9/11.

The CIA actually working with FBI HQ agents that they had subjugated, kept this information on Mihdhar and Hazmi secret from the FBI Agents on the Cole bombing in a wide ranging and massive criminal conspiracy that involved at least 50-60 people at the CIA, including CIA Director George Tenet and 10-15 people at the FBI HQ, including FBI Director Louis Freeh. Also involved in this massive criminal conspiracy were the Yemen CIA station, the Pakistan CIA station, the Bin Laden unit at the CIA, most likely the Thailand CIA station, and the Bin Laden unit, the RFU unit and even the entire ITOS section at the FBI HQ.

While this information went to the FBI HQ Bin Laden unit, the FBI HQ agents kept this information absolutely secret from the FBI Cole bombing investigators even though both the CIA and the FBI HQ knew that both Mihdhar and Hazmi had been at the Kuala Lumpur al Qaeda planning meeting with Walid Bin Attash, Khallad, actually planning the Cole bombing.

When the agents on the FBI Cole bombing accidentally found out that both Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside of the US on August 28, 2001, and knew these terrorists were here in order to carry out another horrific al Qaeda attack, the agents at FBI HQ shut down FBI criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi with the excuse that the information these FBI investigators would need would have to come from the NSA and this information was not allowed to go to FBI criminal investigators, until written permission had been obtained from the NSA.

What the FBI HQ agents failed to tell the FBI Cole bombing investigators was that they had already been given written permission the day before, on August 27, 2001, by the NSA to give this information to the FBI agents on the Cole bombing investigation.

Because the FBI agents on the Cole bombing thought it was extremely urgent to investigate and find both Mihdhar and Hazmi before these two known al Qaeda terrorists could carry out yet another horrific attack, and because the Cole bombing investigators did not see any connection between the NSA information and a FISA warrant, the only legitimate reason NSA information could be withheld temporarily from FBI criminal investigators, the lead Cole bombing investigator, Steve Bongardt, asked the FBI HQ agents if they would go to the NSLU, the legal people at FBI HQ, and get their legal opinion. On August 29, 2001 the FBI HQ agents told the FBI agents in the Cole bombing that the NSLU had ruled that they could have no part in any investigation of Mihdhar.

But 9/11 Commission report page 238 footnote 81 says that the attorney the FBI HQ agents consulted, Sherry Sabol, had ruled that since the NSA information had no connection to any FISA warrant, the Cole bombing investigators could take part in any investigation for Mihdhar and Hazmi. Since this was two weeks prior to the attacks on 9/11, this would have been more than enough time to located these al Qaeda terrorists and connect them to this upcoming plot especially since the FBI already had all of Mihdhar’s and Hazmi’s credit card information right in their data base and was able to located this information in just a few hours on 9/11, after the attacks.

The FBI HQ agents and the CIA clearly knew, from warnings that they had received since April 2001, that thousands of Americans were going to perish in this massive al Qaeda attack as a direct result of their actions to block Bongardt’s investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi, one of only two FBI criminal investigations that could have stopped these attacks. The other investigation that could have prevented the attacks on 9/11, the investigation of Mouissaoui's possesions, was inexplicably blocked by FBI supervisors at the FBI RFU unit.

From the information that is now in the public domain, it clearly looks like letting the al Qaeda attacks take place was intentional, and deliberate, on the part of FBI HQ and the CIA. If it was not intentional and deliberate, then why has neither the CIA or FBI HQ ever explained their actions and why they carried out criminal conspiracies to block the information on Mihdhar and Hazmi from going to the FBI Cole bombing investigators, even after they knew that Mihdhar and Hazmi had taken part in the planning of the Cole bombing? And then why did they shut down the very investigation of these known al Qaeda terrorists inside of the US when they knew this would result in the murder of thousands of Americans?

Why have the CIA or the FBI HQ never explained why they did not raise an alarm that could have resulted in the necessary actions to prevent these attacks, and in fact did just the opposite, when they knew both Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside of the US, knew they were long time al Qaeda terrorists who had taken part in the attack in east African bombings that had killed over two hundred people, and the planning of the Cole bombing and even knew they were here only in order to take part in this massive al Qaeda attack?

Maybe someone can explain this?

Why has the FBI never explained why FBI Director Louis Freeh himself blocked the information on Mihdhar and Hazmi from going to FBI Agent Ali Soufan on November 200 when Soufan made an official request for this information and according to 9/11 Commission report p181, and DOJ IG report p238-239, this information had already been given to FBI Director Louis Freeh by both the NSA and the CIA.

It also looks like this horrific information on Mihdhar and Hazmi, and the fact that the CIA knew these terrorists were inside of the US only in order to take part in a massive al Qaeda attack that the CIA and FBI HQ knew about, also went to President Bush on August 24, 2001, when CIA Director George Tenet, just after learning this information on August 23, 2001, flew down to Crawford Texas for a 6 hour long meeting with the Present, a meeting so secret that Tenet lied about this meeting and said that it had not take place at the April 14, 2001 9/11 Commission public hearings.

While this information finally came out in the DOJ IG report, in the evidence items in the Moussaoui trial, and from the account of FBI Agent Ali Soufan, the 9/11 Commission investigation never looked deep enough into this information to see the whole picture perhaps intentionally and had only scratched surface, in a investigation that was so flawed that is now viewed as nothing but a complete fraud and a shameful cover up of the illegal and criminal actions at both the CIA and FBI HQ that had allowed the attacks on 9/11 to take place. This cover up obviously was to protect both the CIA, the FBI and even perhaps the administration that knew much more about the attacks on 9/11 then they let on and the reasons why they had allowed the al Qaeda terrorists to carry the attacks on 9/11.

[rschop]

20. K&R

[BeFree]

19. This conclusion was good

Some conclusions are possible. The cumulative amount of information available to the FBI and CIA in the summer of 2001 was astonishing. Over and over again, agents passed leads onto their superiors; over and over again, these were abandoned somewhere in the chain of command. After the Clinton Administration's frenetic and somewhat uneven attempts to deal with al Qaeda, the Bush people appear merely uninterested. None of the concern felt by agents in the field was communicated to the public.

[spooked911]

21. That's all fine, and I don't doubt culpability of Bush-- but are you petitioning the Obama admin

to actually DO something about this

[rschop]

22. re: are you petitioning the Obama admin to actually DO something about this

What good would that do?

Obama knows this would only upset the Republicans who had worked secretly behind the scenes (IMHO) to cover up and hide the horrific facts behind the attacks on 9/11, that the CIA working with FBI agents at FBI HQ hid the information on the Kuala Lumpur al Qaeda planning meeting in a massive criminal conspiracy from the FBI Cole bombing investigators, and then shut down their investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi when they accidentally found out these al Qaeda terrorists were inside of the US, preparing to take part in the attack that occurred on 9/11.

There is even substantial evidence that President Bush was told by Director of the CIA, George Tenet, August 24, 2001 that these terrorists were inside of the US at a secret 6 hour long meeting in Crawford, Texas, and that the CIA knew they were here in order to take part in the attacks on 9/11.

The last thing Obama wants to do now is upset the Republicans. (IMHO) the Republicans knew full well that Bush knew much more than he let on to the 9/11 Commission, and wanted to cover this up. What else explains (IMHO) why the Republicans forced the 9/11 Commission to be delayed by over 1 1/2 years and then made sure that 5 Republicans and 5 Democrats would be selected for the commissioners, and that getting a subpoena required 6 commissioners, a subpoena the Republicans were never going to allow?

What Grand Jury investigating a murder requires that 5 of the Jury panel are Democrats and 5 are Republicans and to get a search warrant or subpoena required 6 members of the Grand Jury. But there was not a single murder in this case, but the murder of almost 3000 people. This not only politicized the 9/11 Commission but prevented it from looking to deeply into issues when information was not provided by the CIA and FBH HQ voluntarily.

This turned the whole 9/11 Commission investigation into a complete sham and cover up of what had taken place prior to the events on 9/11 that had actually allowed these attacks to take place.

While it is possible today to find out from the now available information from the government’s own investigations, the real reasons the CIA and FBI HQ had allowed the al Qaeda terrorists to carry out the attacks on 9/11 and even find the names of the people who were behind this, in effect there is nothing that can be done to bring those in the US government who were responsible to justice, nothing at all.

[BeFree]

23. Right

"....in effect there is nothing that can be done to bring those in the US government who were responsible to justice, nothing at all."

All we can do is keep it from being swept under the rug and be able to keep it from happening again?

[spooked911]

24. If enough people demanded action, something could be done

but it seems like there are impediments everywhere, such as here

[spooked911]

25. Anyway, I'm curious what Boloboffin is doing to demand justice

or LARED, AZCat, Seger, SDuder, OTOH, etc

[AZCat]

26. I'm not sure that's any of your business.

What I do in my private (or public) life away from this forum is my business, not yours.

[quickesst]

27. What gets me...

...is that whether bushco was directly involved, ignorant, incompetent, or simply disengaged, there is one thing noone here can deny. The so-called OCT would like nothing better than have the whole thing dropped, without any question, demand, or suggestion that members of bushco be brought to account for their actions, or inactions concerning the events surrounding 9/11. They are saying to the American people, "Hey, what can you do? Let's just get beyond the wars, the trillions of dollars lost, the soldiers that died as a result, and the ruination of this country as the bastion of democracy. If I could read just one hint of a suggestion that the so-called "OCT" had any thought whatsoever that bushco should be held accountable for any action that has brought this country to the level they now endure, I might re-evaluate some aspects of their arguments. None have been put forth, and I don't believe any are forth-coming. They, not I, have formed my opinion. Thanks.
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[SDuderstadt]

28. Nope...

it's the lack of evidence.

[noise]

29. You forgot about

1)the excessive secrecy.

2)abuse of national security classification procedures.

Where is the transparency? When will the CIA or FBI release 9/11 Commission interviews with agents involved in the al-Hazmi/al-Mihdhar sharing failures? Those records were turned over to NARA in '04. Six years is plenty of time to review those records.

[SDuderstadt]

30. You forgot to accuse me of being...

"authoritarian".

[BeFree]

31. Dayuhmn

I agree with you!!

The secrecy in a democracy will destroy a democracy.
We have evidence of that happening right here, today.

[SDuderstadt]

32. Why do these things always go over your head...

dude?

[quickesst]

33. The first thing I noticed....

.. was the word "brilliant". If it is indeed "brilliant", a simple title such as "Index Provided For 9/11 Commission Report" would have sufficed. Thanks.
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[Bolo Boffin]

34. The first thing I noticed

was I didn't ask for style tips.

[quickesst]

35. Brilliant answer

:yourock: Thanks.
quickesst

[Bolo Boffin]

36. Thanks.

Got anything substantive to add to the conversation, or is it just going to be your snide little games?

[quickesst]

37. Probably just snide little games....

...but I did point out that your personal assessment should have been unnecessary if it was indeed "brilliant". A neutral, and unbiased title would have sufficed giving those who chose to read it the opportunity to assess whether it was indeed "brilliant" or not so brilliant. Your answer was that you did not ask for any "style tips". An answer that defines the term "snide". My simple observation which has been determined by you to be snide, should never have been answered by the definition of the term, but rather something more refined, such as "You are correct, my opinion of the article's brilliance is my own, and others who read it should decide for themselves whether it is brilliant, or just more crap. Thanks.
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[Bolo Boffin]

38. If you have nothing of substance to contribute to this discussion thread

Go play your silly games elsewhere.

[quickesst]

39. Ha ha....

"Brilliant" is still just an opinion, and it's only one. We've all got assholes too.:-) Thanks.
quickesst