9/11 CT Advocate Murders His Own Father

[Bolo Boffin]

http://www.koaa.com/aaaa_top_stories/x1589516403/Doctors-son-I-killed-my-own-father-in-front-of-my-mother

Doctor's son tells police: "I killed my own father in front of my mother."

The son of a prominent Colorado Springs doctor, who's accused of stabbing his father to death, is under suicide watch. Dr. Edward Fitzgerald was killed in his own home early Thursday morning, and now more disturbing details about this shocking crime are coming to light.

The probable cause affidavit shows that 36-year-old Sean Fitzgerald told police he stabbed his dad to death while his mom slept in the same bed.

Sean had been in Thailand, where his increasingly bizarre fantasies were being fed by the likes of Alex Jones. His father at one point called Jones' radio show, desperate to placate his son.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F67YKL8M

Alex: Well, how are we going to help him in Thailand in a medical clinic?

Ed: He thought maybe there's some way you could call attention to his --

Alex: I've got a sneaking suspicion he was caught taking videotape of things in a country that isn't so free.

Ed: No, he's a stay-at-home dad with a son and his wife's --

Alex: No, I'm not saying your son's bad, I'm just can't imagine why they're after him.

Ed: Is there anything that you can do?

Alex: Well, I mean, what's the specifics?

Ed: He said that last night he got chased by some paramilitaries and got injured and he was taken to the medical clinic where his wife works and now he's afraid to go out of there.

Alex: Yeah, he's being chased by the youth corps. One of their local militia brigades.

Classy, that Jones. Using a mentally ill person's plight as an excuse to further his nutty beliefs, that of "youth corps" being established by world leaders, notably Barack Obama, to silence the masses. Alex Jones, right wing CT merchant, certifiable.

Dr. Fitzgerald did manage to retrieve his son. However, his son's paranoia was too far blown. Scott finally decided to follow through on his convictions.

The most odious part of this tragic story is the way the Truth Movement has been scrub, scrub, scrubbing their websites of any mention of Scott. Google Cache reveals the truth.

http://64.233.169.132/search?q=cache:3JSlO44EUjwJ:www.911blogger.com/node/18408

That's 911Blogger making quick use of the memory hole they're so hot to condemn others for. We Are Change Colorado also has scrubbed a page on this story.

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:_bn2K3tqN28J:wearechangecolorado.org/2008/11/06/sean-fitzgerald-former-wacc-member-in-danger-in-thailand/+%22Sean+Fitzgerald%22+We+Are+Change&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

Killing your dad because you're a paranoid is a tragedy.

Applying grease to a paranoid person's slippery slope to keep the cash flowing in? Well, people who do that should be considered the scum of the earth.

Save yourselves from this pack of snake oil salesmen now. You can still hate everything the Bushes and the corporate world has done. But these 9/11 CT merchants are not your friends.

[leftofthedial]

1. Wave of 9-11 OCT believers committing murder-suicide!

LOS ANGELES - The only hints of trouble in the big beige house on Como Lane were the newspapers in the driveway and the lack of any activity behind the front door.

But when police summoned by worried friends of the residents got inside Monday, they found a horror —six members of a family fatally shot in a murder-suicide committed by an unemployed father in financial crisis. The body of 45-year-old Karthik Rajaram, a gun clutched in one hand, was found by officers who followed a trail of carnage through the home in a gated community in the Porter Ranch area of the San Fernando Valley.

-snip-

Mr. Rajaram is said to have believed that 19 Arab Muslim extremist hijackers, under the orders of Osama bin Laden, perpetrated the worst national security breach in US history, without the knowledge or assistance of any insiders. It is a tragedy when someone so bereft of basic logic murders his family. His former employer no doubt cultivated those beliefs.



BOSTON - A man who Boston police say was responsible for an apparent murder-suicide last night in a West End high-rise announced the couple's deaths on his own website.

The man was identified by police today as Christian Mogensen, 61. His wife was 60-year-old Sharon Glassman.

Mogensen was a computer engineer who ran his own business out of their Emerson place apartment. He updated his website recently so it had an all black background and a sepia photograph of the couple in which they appear to be standing in City Hall Plaza on their wedding day, which is listed as Dec. 24, 1996.

-snip-

Another believer in the findings of the 9-11 Commission Report, Mogensen, was apparently a broken man. Sigh.



And the list just goes on. Tragic. Utterly, horribly tragic.

[Bolo Boffin]

2. Could you provide any evidence of their beliefs, leftofthedial?

Because Scott Fitzgerald is on the record. His 9/11 CT beliefs were part and parcel of the reason he lashed out at his father.

Whereas I cannot find any evidence of what the two people you cite believed about 9/11 or that their beliefs about 9/11 entered into their decision process at all. You will be so good as to provide it?

[leftofthedial]

3. and his documented beliefs have *what* to do with the sensationalism of your post?

[Bolo Boffin]

4. I'll take that as a "No, got nothing, just making a specious argument..."

"...to blunt the impact of this tragedy."

Sensationalism? Hardly. A paranoid killing his father because of his disease is a tragedy.

But the 9/11 smear merchants making cash while feeding this man's paranoia? Reprehensible. And scurrying to cover up just how they encouraged this man's paranoid beliefs? Demonstrable hypocrisy, considering the way they accuse others.

That's not sensationalism. That's the facts.

[leftofthedial]

5. no. just pointing out the logical fallacy.

Alex Jones is a tool, but you imply that somehow the young man's 9-11 beliefs and his mental illness were linked, which is absurd and fallacious.

[jberryhill]

6. Why are truthers scrubbing it, then?

[leftofthedial]

8. no idea

[Bolo Boffin]

7. How exactly is linking his 9/11 beliefs and his mental illness fallacious?

Were they the sole cause of his paranoia? No. As a matter of fact, I see it as opposite. Most people have brain chemistry problems first, and the weird, nutty beliefs are symptoms of that. 9/11 CT is how he chose to express his paranoia. It is most often the form that his fears took. 9/11 CT is the hammer Scott used to bash his reason out.

And people like Alex Jones and We Are Change kept supplying him with hammers.

[leftofthedial]

9. do you have evidence? are you a trained mental health professional?

do you have a particular diagnosis, or just amateur armchair conjecture?

[Bolo Boffin]

10. Are you a trained mental health professional to rule it out categorically?

Please stop this foolish game. A 9/11 CT paranoia ranting about the government who murdered his father? Of course his silly beliefs fed into his disease. No one needs a degree to see that.

[leftofthedial]

11. that's absurd.

might as well believe that every fool who mindlessly defends the OCT is another Dick Cheney.

[Bolo Boffin]

12. What???

Are you kidding me? A paranoid person murders his father. In the years prior to this, he increasing became exercised about 9/11 CT. And you think connecting these two events is the equivalent of calling "every fool who mindlessly defends the OCT... another Dick Cheney"??

You really are driving yourself into absurdity in order to scold me.

[leftofthedial]

13. you are implying that everyone who disagrees with the OCT

and believes a different conspiracy was behind the 9-11 attacks is mentally ill.

Actually, it's more absurd than that. You are implying that everyone who believes a conspiracy was behind 9-11, which includes YOU, the 9-11 Commission and everyone on this board, is mentally ill.

For all you know, his beliefs in 9-11 may have been the only sane thing in this man's sad life.

[Bolo Boffin]

14. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit

That's what you want me to be saying so you can scold me.

That is not what I am saying or implying. I am saying explicitly here: BUYER, BEWARE.

[leftofthedial]

15. so the you'd have no objection to the following subject lines:

9-11 OCT believers commit wave of child molestations.

9-11 OCT believer buggers his dog.

9-11 OCT believer drives drunk and kills five college students in a head-on collision.

9-11 OCT believer commits torture of political prisoners.

9-11 OCT believer bilks US Treasury of hundreds of billions.

etc.

[AZCat]

16. It is apparent you have totally misunderstood the OP.

Please go back and read it again.

[leftofthedial]

17. The headline of the OP says, "9/11 CT Advocate Murders His Own Father"

There is a strong implication in the headline and throughout the OP that the man's belief that the OCT is wrong is a paranoid delusion and part of a mental illness that led him to murder his father. It may be or it may not be. Nothing in the OP or any linked source clarifies that. I doubt the man's psychiatrists could even say with certainty that there is any link between the man's beliefs about 9-11 and this tragedy or that there is any link between his mental illness and his beliefs about 9-11. This is inflammatory and insulting to readers here who might share his views about 9-11.

Alex Jones is an unreliable, self-promoting tool. I take no issue with the OP's criticisms of him. However, both the OP and subsequent posts all but say that the man's belief in an alternate explanation of 9-11 is a symptom of his mental illness, which implies that anyone who believes in a "9-11 CT" is mentally deranged. It also implies that rejection of the OCT is a "bizarre fantasy."

I did not even partially misunderstand the OP. There are many ways to say that Alex Jones is an ass and possibly culpable in this tragedy without intentionally blurring the line between skepticism and insanity and without smearing every critic of the 9-11 OCT with a mental-illness-patricide brush.

[AZCat]

18. Maybe the problem is with your perception.

You state over and over again that things are "implied" either by boloboffin or the responders to the OP. Why don't you stop trying to interpret people's posts for them, especially when they go to the trouble of correcting you?

[leftofthedial]

19. why don't you stop playing armchair psychologist?

the implications in the OP and its subject are clear enough. I'm not imagining them.

[jberryhill]

23. Sounds like a hell of a weekend

Hey, quit following me around.

[LARED]

20. Oddly I never rememder you making such a fuss

about the hundreds of CT'er OP's that implied ridiculous things.

Personally I think you are overreacting to the OP title. It's pretty clear no one is making claims that 9/11 fantasies were responsible for his actions. That is clearly not the point of the post or the title.

[leftofthedial]

21. a. I've made plenty of fusses about all sorts of things.

b. boloboffin himself says he intended such a connection. "Are you kidding me? A paranoid person murders his father. In the years prior to this, he increasing became exercised about 9/11 CT. And you think connecting these two events is the equivalent of calling "every fool who mindlessly defends the OCT... another Dick Cheney"??"

I never said it was "the point." I said it was implied, which it clearly is.

[whatchamacallit]

22. This is the kind of intellectually dishonest attack I've come to expect from right wingers

and the author of the OP. Disgusting.

[Bolo Boffin]

24. 9/11 Truth Movements sites scrub, scrub, scrub

and I'm the one conducting intellectual dishonest attacks? Riiiiiiiight.

At least you make it clear that I am something different than a right winger. You at least have that much a foot in reality.

[whatchamacallit]

25. About reality...

You know Bolo, as I have stated many times, I don't know how 911 really went down. I just know that a lot of what we're told doesn't seem right on many levels. Maybe my lack of certainty is a flaw in your view. Seems to me, being absolutely certain about the truth of an event like 911, an event fraught with incomplete, inconsistent, and conflicting information, might be a bigger flaw. But hey, that's just the opinion of a dimwitted, woo-swilling, "potentially homicidal", CTer.