Post missing 9/11 evidence you'd like to see

[NecessaryOnslaught]

Contrary to what the cave-incidence theorists and government shills would have you believe, the events of 9/11 are anything but a closed case. There is-from the financial to the physical-, literally, tons of missing evidence. What are your top 3 pieces of missing evidence?

1) Why are CBS and the NIST withholding the complete Naudet footage of the collapse of WTC 7? The first 10 seconds, which include the critical collapse of the east penthouse, are cut out of the CBS documentary and are not available anywhere. Why?



2)According to James Williams, president of the SEAU- "As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and molten steel was still running. What concrete that wasn’t pulverized into dust will continue to be removed for weeks to come. The structural steel is being removed and shipped by barge to be recycled. All photographs shown on television, shot-on-site were preapproved by the FBI. We were shown photographs that were not released for public view."
http://www.seau.org/SEAUNews-2001-10.pdf

Why is the FBI dictating what photos of ground zero can and cannot be seen by the public? What do these photos show?

3)Why did the FBI confiscate footage from a nearby gas station that shows what hit the pentagon? Why has this not been released for public view?

"Velasquez says the gas station's security cameras are close enough to the Pentagon to have recorded the moment of impact. "I've never seen what the pictures looked like," he said. "The FBI was here within minutes and took the film.""
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/12/1211_wirepentagon.html

[RedSock]

1. transcript and video

of the bush/cheney interview segment with the commission.

[knowbody0]

2. i spent hours looking at the "alarmists" information

i agree too many holes in the investigation. would this administration be capable of orchestrating such a horrific plot?fuckinA man. cheney's diddling with airtraffic control on 911,instructions to "stand down", never did it take our air force response more than 12 minutes to launch and be prepared to shoot down any high jacked airplane, ......the lists are never ending in the "coincidence" category, the most incredible to me is the pentagon plane that was 12 feet above the freeway but not really heard. my friends and i used to take acid and sneak onto the tarmac for the thrill of just that. you see it you hear it you feel it you taste it.
the prison planet guy-alex jones gathers so much information, but is laughed at as a conspiracy junkie. today i would put nothing past the planners of the PNAC
i have come to the conclusion that my brain in unable to bind around the madness of those whose god is power
what can we do?

[LARED]

3. I'd like to see the evidence how tons steel

is somehow turned to dust in an instant.

[NecessaryOnslaught]

4. well shit, so would I

I guess we'll attribute it to the Wile E. Coyote effect. After the steel fell it simply left a ferrous colored remnant of itself there.

[LARED]

7. You seem to believe the steel

turned to dust. You must be basing that on some evidence.

Do you have any?

[TrogL]

5. Shuttle accidents

[philb]

49. and lots turned to molten steel that was hot for months

Where are the steel beams and molten steel to be analyzed?
How much steel melted? What size were the steel beam pieces?

Gas fires don't melt steel or make steel beams collapse; and from the evidence and pictures, its clear not the WTC buildings either.


http://www.flcv.com/911new05.html

[adolfo]

65. Thermite

There is a possibility they used thermite. Surprisingly, thermite's main ingredients are aluminum powder and iron oxide (rust). Once detonated it can cut through solid steel like butter.

[Christophera]

69. Early 9-11 Evidence Photo From Freskills-Rounded, Melted, Chemical Crusted

steel column side or "I Beam probably just over a foot wide. The irregular smoothness was as if it had been dipped into a crucible and melted off.

I saw the photo from a link on the original 9-11pi.com in 2002.

[philb]

56. Are you playing games? The steel was splintered and melted but I'm not

aware of any reports that it was turned into dust?

As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and molten steel was still running.

http://www.seau.org/SEAUNews-2001-10.pdf

[LARED]

59. There is a poster on this forum

that believes the steel was instanteously turned to dust as it fell. I was wondering how they thought this was possible.

[stickdog]

6. 4) Flight 77's & Flight 93's Flight Data Recorder information. (nt)

[stickdog]

8. Whatever Jeb Bush & the FBI (SS?) took from Huffman Aviation on 9/12.

[NecessaryOnslaught]

10. The FBI is on a roll!

J Edgar would be proud. He's looking up from his fiery pit with a tear in his eye.

[Minstrel Boy]

9. Identities of those who traded on insider information.

Also the identities of the Pentagon officials who, on the evening of Sept 10, suddenly cancelled their commercial flights for the next morning. And the intelligence upon which they based their decisions.

[DulceDecorum]

11. Who chartered the 911 planes

and who exactly owns them.

Then I want to see the birth certificates of every single person who passed away, AND VERIFY their Social Security Number.
I don't give anything for Gov Pataki and his
"I-suspended-the-law-so-that
two paper affidavits = certified death" proof.

Next I want to see the evidence used
to convict Saddam Hussein of 911 involvement in those 911 widows' lawsuits
and ....

maybe I should let someone else have a turn.
After you, Alphonse.

[Old and In the Way]

24. I was wondering about that.

There are some high profile victims that we know from 93, but, except for the RW talking head Olson, almost everyone else is unknown to the public.

Has anyone done an extensive canvassing of all the plane victim's next-of-kin or relatives?

[tngledwebb]

12. All kinds of CCTV tapes must exist

from all airport security cameras to DC highway and Pentagon security cameras, and I'd imagine there is a lot of private video tape of WTC events which any sane citizen would be very reluctant to hand in to the authorities.

Also would like probabilty analysis on every aspect of 9/11. For starts- the chances of high-jacked airliner HITTING THE FLIPPIN PENTAGON, and hitting a FIVE sided building on the ONLY (recently renovated and more or less) EMPTY one of those FIVE sides. The odds of that event must be truly astronomical.
And leave out for the moment the impossible-steep turning/trajectory/speed-without-even-touching-the-lawn-melting-plane-into-18 foot hole-cut-into-slices-by-internal-columns odds.

Plus the odds of three skyscapers destroyed in near free fall collapse etc. Well it's all rather...ODD.

Speaking of odds, its a safe bet there will more than a few folks here who see NOTHING ODD ALL.

[NecessaryOnslaught]

16. Speaking of the FBI

who has possession of the tape that supposedly showed a post rogaine Hanjour at Dulles, you know, the one with no time stamp?

Did the FBI round up the airport security cameras, just like the ground zero black boxes? Where is the video of ANY passengers boarding the flights that day?

[NecessaryOnslaught]

61. Still waiting to see CCTV tapes of ANY passengers

getting on the planes that day.

[Bhaisahab]

13. I would like to see Md Atta's passport

Apparently, it was found in the rubble of WTC. I'd like to know how a booklet at the center of a firestorm survived it. Wonder what it looks like. That's some passport.
I would also like the person who found the passport publicly questioned.

[RH]

14. Atta's passport was not in New York.

The passport in New York belonged to Al Suqami.

[stickdog]

15. Well, that explains it, then! (nt)

[k-robjoe]

17. Came across this

on a discussion board.

If it´s correct, it´s another piece of evidence that many people would like to see.

( About the documents on the construction of the WTC ):

"Guiliani took all of the WTC documents, 1/4 million of them, when he became mayor and moved them to his personal offices. The courts refused to compel his release of them when citizens filed legal action to gain their return to public keeping, an evasion of law. They were getting ready."

[RH]

18. Which "WTC documents"?

:shrug:

[k-robjoe]

19. I have asked the poster about this

but no reply yet, I´ll pass it on if one comes.

( The discussion where this is brought up : http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1387&start=105 post # third to bottom. )

[Rich Hunt]

63. now that's something I'd like to see

I'd like to know anything and everything about the building....

[Christophera]

75. Here's A More Complete Report On Guilianis WTC Documents.

http://www.nyclu.org/g_archive020602.html


The only other reference to the plan (a type of document) was from an engineering association. The director had to sign a waiver precluding a lawsuit to get copies. I believe the PA handed out a set of plans NOT used for construction, a reject design (there were several) and it was inadequate structurally, thus the concern (perhaps false) about being sued.

Liars often express a fear of the truth they purport to be revealing in order to make the deception more credible.

[NecessaryOnslaught]

20. A letter from the NYCLU

...."Our concern is based on the following facts, as we understand them. On or about December 24, 2001, Commissioner George Rios, on behalf of the City of New York and/or the Department of Records and Information Services of the City of New York, entered into a contract with the Rudolph W. Giuliani Center for Urban Affairs Inc., signed by Saul Cohen, President, concerning the records of the mayoralty of Rudolph Giuliani. The records are said to include appointment books, cabinet meeting audiotapes, e-mails, telephone logs, advance and briefing memos, correspondence, transition materials, and private schedules, as well as Mr. Giuliani’s departmental, travel, event, subject, and Gracie Mansion files. Giuliani's "World Trade Center files" and "Millennium Project files," together with 6000 files of photographs, 1000 audiotapes, and 15,000 videotapes, are also reported to be a part of the records covered by the contract. In addition, the records include those of his chief of staff and every deputy mayor, together with their chiefs of staff. Finally, gifts such as plaques, awards, personalized clothing, and other items presented to the mayor and deputy mayors, as well as World Trade Center-related materials are alleged to be included as part of the records. All of these items were reported to have been delivered from the control of the City to a warehouse storage facility in Long Island City at the end of December 2001."
:wtf:
http://www.nyclu.org/g_archive020602.html

[k-robjoe]

21. Thanks

I have forwarded it to the Letsroll thread. The poster there didn´t have any links.

[NecessaryOnslaught]

25. "The agreement also grants the Giuliani Center..

Center a role in determining the public nature and availability of documents. If the Giuliani Center determines that material is not a “public document,” the Center and the City can agree to destroy it."
http://www.nyclu.org/g_archive020602.html

Is that what visitors to Giuliani’s archives at "the fortress" were doing? Destroying documents, including the world trade center files?

"The Fortress, which has other storage facilities in Boston and Miami, calls itself "the leading Museum Quality Storage and Service Company in the world." The Queens facility, at 49-20 Fifth St., is believed to house portions of several valuable art collections, including treasures from the Museum of Modern Art.

While Giuliani spokesmen insist that the former mayor is footing the bill for storing the archives, Allen Hansen, manager of the LIC Fortress said he wasn’t sure who is paying his company.

"You know, that’s a good question," Hansen told Courier reporters who visited the warehouse last week. Hansen said that Giuliani’s archives are taking up about 1,500 square feet of space at a cost of $3.50 per square foot, or $5,250 per month. He refused to grant a tour of the warehouse citing the security of clients. And when asked whether representatives of the former mayor have made frequent visits to his lockers, the manager said only, "Normally we don’t see any kind of activity at all."

http://www.queenscourier.com/archives/2002/lead020702b.htm

[John Doe II]

26. Very interesting!

Thanks for your research!
:thumbsup:

How come that 1,500 audiotapes and several thousand video tapes are considered to be Giuliani's property? Shouldn't they be owned by the city of NYC? In other words: Did Giuliani need any permission to put his collection apart?

[DoYouEverWonder]

46. Funny thing about Guiliani

before 9-11 he couldn't even afford his own apartment in Manhattan, when he split up with his wife and she kicked him out of Gracie Mansion. Now 3.5 years later, Rudi is living high on the hog and is suddenly a very rich man. I'd like to know how Rudi lives with himself? He betrayed the people of his own city. He is scum.

[k-robjoe]

22. Familiar

Hm. This sounds very familiar :

"D: There were a couple of surveillance cameras right outside the Murrah Building that would have caught everything on tape that morning--they would have shown who pulled the Ryder truck up to the building, and how the building came down. The FBI confiscated the film from those cameras and they're not releasing it. If the FBI would just release those tapes, then we could see exactly what happened, couldn't we? The film would show who drove the Ryder truck up to the building.

Charles Key: Yes, they could prove real easily with those tapes and with some others across the street that they also will not release whether or not people like me are a bunch of conspiracy theorists or not, you know. They could prove finally whether or not McVeigh really was alone, and whether there really was another car, other vehicles across the street, that were working in conjunction with his activities.

D: They won't release those?

Charles Key: They will not release them. Recently we had a Freedom of Information Act trial here in an attempt to get the government to release the tapes. They stonewalled it. They won't release them."

http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/article/id2461/pg5/index.html

[pberq]

23. Cheney's energy task force

We need to know everything they talked about and why the administration is going to such lengths to keep this hidden.

Michael Ruppert in "Crossing the Rubicon" suggests that one of the things they were discussing was peak oil, since it had then become apparent that the Central Asian oil reserves were far short of what was originally expected. This left Iraq and Saudi Arabia as the two remaining largest oil reserves left, and the end of the oil age much closer.

This led to the idea of invading Iraq. But how to get the public on board? Hence 9-11.

[TexasChick]

28. Yep! The New Pearl Harbor! And, what a way to get the scared sheeple

to be willing to give up their freedoms in return, hence the Patriot Act?

[Christophera]

76. sheep

in a group

[pberq]

27. What happened in Tenet's visit to Pakistan in May 2001

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/02_11_02_lucy.html

"May 2001 - Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, a career covert operative and former Navy Seal, travels to India on a publicized tour, while CIA Director George Tenet makes a quiet visit to Pakistan to meet with Pakistani leader Gen. Pervez Musharraf. Armitage has long and deep Pakistani intelligence connections. It would be reasonable to assume that while in Islamabad, Tenet, in what was described as "an unusually long meeting," also met with his Pakistani counterpart, Lt. Gen. Mahmud Ahmad, head of the ISI. "

________________________________________________________________

Also, what happened at the meeting on the morning of Sept. 11 between Porter Goss, Bob Graham, and Mahmud Ahmad?


"Sept. 11, 2001 - Gen. Mahmud of the ISI, friend of Mohammed Atta, is visiting Washington on behalf of the Taliban. He is meeting with the Chairmen of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, Rep. Porter Goss, R-Fla., and Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., "


http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO206A.html

<snip>
The FBI confirmed in late September, in an interview with ABC News (which went virtually unnoticed) that the 9-11 ring leader, Mohammed Atta, had been financed from unnamed sources in Pakistan:

"As to September 11th, federal authorities have told ABC News they have now tracked more than $100,000 from banks in Pakistan, to two banks in Florida, to accounts held by suspected hijack ring leader, Mohammed Atta. As well . . . "Time Magazine" is reporting that some of that money came in the days just before the attack and can be traced directly to people connected to Osama bin Laden. It's all part of what has been a successful FBI effort so far to close in on the hijacker's high commander, the money men, the planners and the mastermind."9

The FBI had information on the money trail. They knew exactly who was financing the terrorists. Less than two weeks later, the findings of the FBI were confirmed by Agence France Presse (AFP) and the Times of India, quoting an official Indian intelligence report (which had been dispatched to Washington). According to these two reports, the money used to finance the 9-11 attacks had allegedly been "wired to WTC hijacker Mohammed Atta from Pakistan, by Ahmad Umar Sheikh, at the instance of General Mahmoud ."

[NecessaryOnslaught]

29. April-May 2001: ISI arm Taliban

"In April and May 2001 Human Rights Watch sources reported that as many as thirty trucks a day were crossing the Pakistan border; sources inside Afghanistan reported that some of these convoys were carrying artillery shells, tank rounds, and rocket-propelled grenades. Such deliveries are in direct violation of U.N. sanctions. Pakistani landmines have been found in Afghanistan; they include both antipersonnel and antivehicle mines. Pakistan's army and intelligence services, principally the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI), contribute to making the Taliban a highly effective military force. While these Pakistani agencies do not direct the policies of the IEA, senior Pakistani military and intelligence officers help plan and execute major military operations. In addition, private-sector actors in Pakistan provide financial assistance to the Taliban."
http://hrw.org/reports/2001/afghan2/Afghan0701-02.htm#P392_108038

[petgoat]

62. October 2001: ISI arm Taliban

http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/article/0,13673,501020506-233999,00.html

"What is well documented is that even halfway through the U.S. campaign
in Afghanistan, Pakistani officials were still allowing military and
nonlethal supplies across the border to the Taliban."

[Abe Linkman]

30. An Official Explanation for WHERDY GO questions. ASCE report is silent.

General Arthur "Chip" Diehl (the thoid, and maybe final) said:

"There wasn't a piece of the jet to be seen anywhere". He could have added: no MUSH, no body parts, no luggage, no uniforms, not even a worn copy of the ASCE report.

[NecessaryOnslaught]

31. Plenty of evidence in the NIST's posession..

that i'd like to see.


Documentary Information Received by NIST

December 2002
*
The original design drawings (structural, architectural, mechanical, electrical, plumbing) and the original fabrication and construction drawings for the WTC towers
*
Tenant alteration application reports, including drawings and specifications, for the WTC towers and WTC 7, and associated construction audit reports
*
Tenant design standards manuals for structural; architectural; heating, ventilating, and air-conditioning (HVAC); fire protection; plumbing; electrical; fire alarm; and construction review
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Emergency evacuation procedures manuals, including fire safety guide
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Operations manuals for the fire protection system, including sprinklers, standpipes, alarm system and communication protocols, and water and power supply
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Operations manuals for the HVAC systems
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Reports on facility condition surveys and structural integrity inspections for the WTC towers and WTC 7
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Recent inspection and maintenance reports for the elevators and escalators in the WTC towers; elevator numbering system
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Reports on pre-design tests of structural components, including dampers for the WTC towers
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Reports on wind tunnel tests of the WTC towers and wind speed measurements near the WTC site
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Reports on the 1993 bombing damage assessment and repairs, and documentation of changes made to the evacuation system after 1993
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Documents related to the location, approval, and inspection of fuel tanks in WTC 7
*
Documents related to fire rating and fireproofing of structural steel members in the WTC towers
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Documents related to PANYNJ building and fire code requirements and practices
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Correspondence sent to the Occupational Safety and Health Administration regarding the evacuation experience of WTC occupants on September 11, 2001
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Documents related to the lease of the WTC towers by Silverstein Properties
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Reports prepared by McKinsey & Company for FDNY and NYPD
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Basic FDNY dispatch data, including time of dispatch and unit identification
*
Firefighter fatality and injury data from FDNY

May 2003

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More than 1,000 hours of recordings made by PANYNJ on September 11, 2001 (from 0705 through 1900 hours) of telephone calls, as well as police, fire, operations, maintenance, security, and other radio transmissions from four distinct locations
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Personal injury data from FDNY and Port Authority of New York and New Jersey Police Department (PAPD)
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Handwritten notes on the events of September 11, 2001, by PAPD staff
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Emergency responder fatality data for FDNY, NYPD, and PAPD
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WTC list of tenants with contact information from PANYNJ and Silverstein
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WTC list of occupants issued security badges by PANYNJ
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Report on WTC smoke management system by Hughes Associates, Inc.
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Phase I and final reports on fire engineering of WTC steelwork by Buro Happold
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Transcripts of depositions by two PANYNJ staff in the WTC insurance litigation
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Documents, videos, and photographs related to the fireproofing of the WTC tower structures
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WTC floor plan for the fire alarm system and drawings of WTC subgrade plumbing and city water main
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Information regarding building contents such as partitions and furnishings from a key WTC tower tenant, to characterize the types of combustibles and estimates of the mass loading in the region of the fires
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FDNY WTC incident summary, September 20, 2001
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FDNY reports on the fire history of WTC 1, 2, and 7 from 1970 to 2001
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FDNY reports related to inspections of WTC 1, 2, and 7 from 1999 to 2001
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FDNY policies and practices on operations specific to the WTC buildings and on accountability of firefighters at incidents
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FDNY information on dispatched units, apparatus, command posts, and staging areas
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FDNY information on number of command and company officers and firefighters operating in and around WTC 1, 2, and 7 with number of surviving personnel
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Detailed briefing on the NYPD communications system, including 9-1-1 system and radio networks

August 2003

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Design and structural calculations from Leslie E. Robertson Associates (LERA) for the WTC towers, including TV antenna, beams, and beam girders, as well as wind analysis and calculations
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Correspondence from LERA during the time of construction
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Laclede floor truss shop drawings (1,364 sheets) and other documents on steel and joints
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Information on steel from Nippon
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List of WTC drawings in possession of Yamasaki and Associates
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Information on the flammable contents of the American Airlines B-767 aircraft
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Information regarding building contents and floor layouts from some WTC tower and WTC 7 tenants
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Mechanical and electrical specifications for WTC 7
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Asbestos litigation documents from PANYNJ
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Underwriters Laboratories, Inc. (UL) test reports regarding spray-on fireproofing from supplier (Isolatek)
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Correspondence on the selection of W.R. Grace fireproofing products, test data, and UL design listings (W.R. Grace)
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Data on the WTC internal radio system and FDNY radio repeater from PANYNJ
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Some FDNY training practices for operations in high-rise buildings
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Global positioning system coordinates and map where human remains and equipment were located from FDNY
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Information on FDNY personnel killed on September 11, 2001, and map of fire and Emergency Management Services Command Post Locations
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NYPD internal communications concerning the terrorist attacks on WTC (43 cassette tapes)
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Disaster Response Plan, Patrol Guide Procedures, and other guides and manuals from NYPD, including the Unusual Occurrence Report on the 1993 WTC bombing
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A large portion of NYPD and FDNY extensive photographic and videographic collection
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Updated badge list of WTC occupants maintained by PANYNJ
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WTC fire safety and PA/FDNY WTC training videos and pre-September 11, 2001 WTC photographs

September 2003

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Information on the flammable contents of the United Airlines B-767 aircraft
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Documents from PANYNJ on accessibility for disabled persons, active fire protection systems, and adoption of revisions to NYC Building Code
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Elevator and escalator contract information from PANYNJ
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Status of changes to WTC towers (March 1973) from PANYNJ
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Transcripts from September 11 PAPD audiotapes, police reports, and PAPD special awards ceremony documents for September 11, 2001
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Additional documents from PANYNJ on asbestos litigation

October 2003

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Supporting documents for McKinsey & Company’s FDNY and NYPD studies
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Review of UL test reports regarding spray-on fireproofing from supplier (W.R. Grace)
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Information from Boeing on flammable contents of aircraft that contributed to fires

May 2004

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Review of NYC 9-1-1 tapes and logs, transcripts of about 500 first responder interviews with employees of the FDNY who were involved in WTC emergency response activities
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General description of WTC building systems and capital program
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WTC documents presented as exhibits in asbestos litigation
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Additional documents on WTC maintenance services, accessibility, elevators, code compliance, fire rating, fire detection system, fire alarm system, etc
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Photographs of WTC 7 construction project
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Architectural and HVAC drawings for WTC 7, including modifications
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Well in excess of 6,000 photographs representing more than 185 professional and amateur photographers. Organizations that have provided materials include FDNY, NYPD, Associated Press, Corbis, Reuters, The New York Times, The New York Daily News, and the Star Ledger. Many organizations have provided both published and unpublished photographs.
*
In excess of 150 hours of videotapes from news media (NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, and local New York stations WABC, WCBS, WNBC, WPIX, WNYW, and New York One), FDNY, NYPD, and more than 20 individuals. In many cases, the videos provide not only broadcast material (known as air checks), but also material that was recorded but not broadcast (known as outtakes).

http://wtc.nist.gov/media/docs_info_received.htm

I filed a FOIA request for the full footage of WTC 7 collapse recently, so ill post the rejection response when they send it. :evilgrin:

[Abe Linkman]

32. Maybe "lared" can help you out. I believe WTC issues are his area.

Expect direct, substantive responses that do not raise more questions than they answer. Expect no evasions or cites to the ubiquitous ASCE Report. Expect to know the feeling you've had since you filed your FOIA request.

[seatnineb]

42. Abe..........

If you should be reading........you are remembered!

[NecessaryOnslaught]

33. More wherdy go questions.

Pending Requests for Documentary Information

The few NIST requests for materials that are lost, currently pending, or not yet located include:

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Original contract specifications for WTC towers (lost in the collapse of the buildings)
*
Construction and maintenance logs for WTC 1, 2, and 7 (lost in the collapse of the buildings)
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Calculations and analyses that supported the original aircraft impact studies (lost in the collapse of the buildings)
*
Descriptions of partitions and furnishings in most of the tenant spaces of WTC 2 and WTC 7 in the fire and impact zones
*
Shop drawings showing connection details of WTC 7

NIST is making efforts to assemble this information from various sources because much of it was lost when the buildings collapsed. NIST continues to pursue other materials that can further clarify some aspects of the Investigation.
http://wtc.nist.gov/media/pending_requests.htm

"Lost in the collapse" is newspeak for under Larry's pillow.

[rman]

34. reconstruction of the plane that hit the Pentagon is supposed to be

in a warehouse somewhere. a reconstruction from the plane debris found at the Pentagon crash site.
So the FBI told the French media.

[spooked911]

37. ABSOLUTELY!

Does anyone out there really believe the FBI has such a thing?

[John Doe II]

38. Same thing for UA 93

I'd like to see this one:

"The FBI said yesterday that it has finished its work at the crash scene of United Flight 93 after recovering about 95 percent of the downed airliner".
http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010925scene0925p2.asp

[John Doe II]

35. Portland video footage

I'd like to see the video footage of the surveillance camera in the lobby of the Comfort Inn in Portland where Atta and Al Omari are believed to have stayed the night before 911.
Here's what the hotel manager has to say:
Why did the FBI release surveillance video of Atta and Alomari at various locations in South Portland, but not the lobby of the Comfort Inn?
What, she wonders, is on that tape?
(Portland Press Herald, 9/9/03)

I also would like to see the video footage of the Key Bank drive up ATM in Portland that is supposed to have photographed Atta and Al Omari.

I also would like to see the video footage from Kittery Trading Post in Portland.
« An official at the Kittery Trading Post told The Associated Press that he turned over surveillance tapes made the night before the attacks showing two men inquiring about items, including knives and rubber bullets.”
(Portland Press Herald, 9/20/01)

[spooked911]

36. Any one want to venture what is on those tapes that is being withheld?

My guess is the men on those tapes don't exactly match the men the FBI has previously labeled as Atta and Al-Omari.

[John Doe II]

39. The complete flight control transcripts

The ones that the New York Times printed:

AA 11 ends 13 minutes before crash

UA 175 ends 9 minutes before crash

AA 77 ends 22 minutes before crash

UA 93 nothing got published:

People involved in air traffic control said the F.B.I. seized the air traffic tapes of the conversations with that airplane, and no transcript was made available of air-to-ground communications for the flight.
(New York Times, 10/16/01)

[NecessaryOnslaught]

40. bump

[seatnineb]

41. The NYPD Video..........

.......taken from the helicopter as UA 175 flew underneath.

Some parts of this NYPD arial footage have already been released to the public.

But not the part when UA 175 flies into WTC2.

[NecessaryOnslaught]

44. Funny how that works.

Looks like the chopper was in perfect position to capture high quality footage of both U175's impact and the south towers collapse, and would have had amazing footage of the north tower had it not landed. Those particular frames seem to have gone missin'
http://photo.911photos.com/archive11/index.html

[seatnineb]

52. Wow!.........great photos Neccessary!

Here is the testimony from Timothy Hayes.

He was the co-pilot of the NYPD helicopter that flew above UA175.


We continued to circle the towers and about 18 minutes after the first plane hit…I recall looking over to the left…actually over the harbour and we are heading west bound …we’re inbetween the statue of liberty and battery park city and I remember looking down dowards the statue …between the staue and (unintellible) bridge…and in the distance I saw an airplane….really didn’t think much of it at first …because at the time we did not think that this was a terrorist attack …and we did not know what was happening ..and I recall looking again…and it was getting much larger and I remember saying to Pat(co-pilot) …how can this be happening…I said Christ…a second plane can’t be crashing…you just don’t see 2 planes crash at the same place at the same time…I said what is going on?….I remember looking over again and I turned to Pat and I said Pat ….you gotta climb…you gotta climb…I said this plane is coming right at our window ….it’s the closest I’ve ever seen a plane come close to my helicopter by accident…and Pat began to climb and John and all the guys in the back…running back and forth watching looking for this aircraft …and all I remember seeing is the aircraft going underneath our aircraft …you could see him right through the (unintelligible)….he could have been maybe 200 feet underneath us …and I just remember following him …and just turning my head and watching him…watching him pull up…and watching him disappearing right into the south tower….and at that point I said something bad is going on …this is a terrorist attack …and I remember putting it over immedietly….because the ground units did not see the plane and I remember putting it over…and I specifically putting it over as a united airlines jet …a commercial airliner just struck the southt tower …cos’ at that point being very selfish …cos my brother is a united airlines pilot…and he flies what I thought was that plane …I thought it was an airbus….turned out to be a 767 I believe …and I just remember calling the base …and frantically asking them to call my wife…call my brother …make sure he is a alive….and then I got that out of my system
and we continued to advise ground units what had happened because they thought it was a secondary explosion and we said no…that was a another commercial airliner full of people that hit the tower…."

Timothy Hayes.
NYPD

Taken from the In Memoriam to NYC DVD documentary.

[hang a left]

43. Everything Sibel Edmonds has to say and.....

all 4 cockpit voice recorders.

[TomClash]

45. Flight manifests

[philb]

53. THE PERPLEXING PUZZLE OF THE PUBLISHED PASSENGER LISTS

Gary North's REALITY CHECK Number 82 October 12, 2001
http://www.eionews.addr.com/psyops/news/passenger_list_puzzle.htm
THE PERPLEXING PUZZLE OF THE PUBLISHED PASSENGER LISTS

[DoYouEverWonder]

47. Why not one,

not a single person in our high command, reacted appropiately on 9-11?

Why did every single one of them sit on their hands until after the Pentagon was hit?

[TomClash]

48. Oh come on

The F-15s were in the air at 9:16 a.m. Yeah, right.

[goodboy]

50. ALEX JONES...

http://infowars.com/resources.html

[philb]

51. Why wish for the evidence? Organize and file FOIA request.

What logical reason could be used to deny it?
Protecting the alleged hijackers? Doesn't work.

There is a FOIA request for the private videos showing what hit the Pentagon to be returned by the FBI by June 21, and Judge has ruled that FBI must comply or provide good reasons why not.

What good reasons could they come up with? Any speculation?
should be interesting.

But more FOIA requests need to be filed.

[philb]

54. Pentagon F77 FOIA request for confiscated Pentagon security camera tapes

Pentagon F77 FOIA request for confiscated Pentagon security camera tapes,etc.
http://www.flight77.info/

[NecessaryOnslaught]

55. FOIA request for Naudet WTC 7 east penthouse footage denied

[philb]

57. Why would they withhold this information? Who are they trying to protect?

What is the time period referenced in their letter?

[rman]

68. WTC7 penthouse collapse video here:

http://www.question911.com/links.php

911 Eyewitness 3of3 (WMV 48megs)

http://www.question911.com/linkout.php?filename=911%20Eyewitness%203of3.wmv
(use the alternate link)

[philb]

58. Documentation on which of the 3 flight 11 planes hit the WTC 1?

There were 2 flight AA11 s at Boston on 9/11 known to have been leaving from 2 different gates; the one that hit WTC apparently had no passengers. The original official flight apparently had no arab hijackers and no one knows what happened to it, though it clearly existed and was the one the passengers boarded. One of the flights may have been part of the pentagon and military war games scheduled at that time that were involved with the same targets as the real 9/11. There are official reports(3) that NORAD sent jets to intercept a 2nd Flight 11 after the first had hit WTC tower 1.
http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=629
http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=780
(3)The 9/11 Commission Staff Report, March 23, 2004, page 32.

Also, a boarding pass list for the Flight 11 plane that boarded at Gate 32? Is it the same as for the Flight 11 plane that boarded at Gate 26? What was the plane ID number for the Flight 11 plane that boarded at Gate 26?

Are there any pictures of the plane that the tail ID number can be seen on? or parts with part numbers matching the official Fl 11?

[philb]

60. What was Flight X in Cleveland and why the secrecy about it?

What was Flight X in Cleveland and why the secrecy about it?
Was it Flight 93 as stated by an FAA controller?

Why did they land on a far side of the airport and what happened to the passengers?

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=323
http://256.com/gray/thoughts/2001/20010912/travel_story.html

[Fusions_Minion]

64. What ever happened to Kurt Sonnenfeld?

The FEMA photographer who "murdered his wife", New Years eve, 2001. He was the only videographer with total access to the site.

http://www.tvtechnology.com/features/news/fema-1.shtml

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:kNN4pLoPT68J:www.denverda.org/html_website/denver_da/News_release/Murder%2520case%2520dismissed.html+kurt+sonnenfeld&hl=en&client=firefox-a

http://news4colorado.com/topstories/local_story_247134714.html

[petgoat]

72. Interesting question. Gitmo? Still in Argentina? Free and hiding? nm

[Beam Me Up]

74. Shades of JFK. I hadn't heard ANY of this. So, did our fair haired

photographer document something that didn't 'jive' with the official lie, uh, story?

Crimny crickets.

[philb]

66. Here is list of unresolved questions and doc. of coverup

http://www.flcv.com/coverup.html

[rman]

67. close examination of steel beams and molten steel

i've heard that most of the beams were 'broken' into neat little pieces of roughly equal length - seemingly pre-cut to size so they'd fit on the trucks that hauled them away.

examination of the cutting edges should be interesting.

but none of this is possible any more.

[MrSammo1]

70. I'd like to see..........

the bodies of the military personal that died at the Pentagon.

I'm sure I'd find no shortage of bullet holes in their bodies.

[petgoat]

71. "bodies of the military personal"

There weren't very many of them. My recollection is that of 125 who
died on the ground, at least 100 were civilian employees.

That being the case you might do better looking at the context of who
among the military died, rather than wishing for non-existent forensic
reports.

[MrSammo1]

73. Well....

some of those people were ear marked for death.

The way they died would be very interesting to know.

[soulcore]

77. Questions...

Where are the flight data recorders?

How did a kerosene-based fire melt steel to molten pools for months after the collapse?

Where is the wreckage from the Pentagon?

Why were none of the planes reconstructed?

Why are several of the hijackers still alive?

What brought down wtc7 and why does it look like a controlled demolition?

Why haven't they released the video of whatever hit the Pentagon or the air traffic control tapes?

Why was the steel immediately shipped off and melted instead of being preserved and analysed as is the law in a case like this?

Why did the secret service not immediately secure the president when it was cleat there was an attack underway, and why did he fly around the country all day and meat with Mr. Buffet and others at an air force base?

Why was the response time for hijacking protocol missed and what factor did wargame excersices play in the response?