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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 12:50 AM
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Has anyone ever seen this before? Security at the Airports on 9-11
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 01:49 AM by Ghost in the Machine
All 9/11 Airports Serviced by One Israeli Owned Company

It's one of those times when an innocuous comment in an unrelated news report triggers a revelation.

In the article at afrocubaweb.com there is the following paragraph:
"To make the situation worse, a private security company called ICTS, owned by an Israeli, Ezra Harel, and registered in the Netherlands, was employed at Charles de Gaulle airport to screen passengers boarding US planes. Most of its personnel are ex-Shin Bet officers. The company covers security at Boston's Logan airport, where the American Airlines plane came down after flight attendants and passengers overpowered Reid."

The point of the article was that ICTS knew shoe bomber Richard Reid was dangerous, but allowed him on board a flight from Tel Aviv to Paris. Maybe they did and maybe they didn't. But the idea that an Israeli owned company had inside access to the airport used to launch an abortive terror attack brought to mind the strange message Odigo Systems, another Israeli owned company with offices near the World Trade Towers, received that warned of the impending attacks before the hijacked planes had even left the ground.

So, I went back to another story that had surfaced briefly, reported at worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26626 about how at least one hijacker had smuggled a GUN aboard one of the hijacked planes. Even prior to 9-11, getting a gun on board a passenger plane represented a serious lapse of security. I wondered why this story of a gun was being concealed behind talk of box cutters and screwdrivers.

Then I went back to the first article and its mention that ICTS handled security at Logan International Airport, from which two of the 9-11 hijacked planes had departed.

Sure enough, a visit to ICTS' own web site at http://www.icts-int.com/ confirms that ICTS is in fact an Israeli owned company, and that it sells services to every airport from which the hijacked planes operated, including security, sometimes through wholly owned subsidiaries like Huntleigh USA Corporation.

Huntleigh Corp. http://www.icts-int.com/content.aspx?id=32

In keeping with ICTS International N.V.’s objective of significantly expanding its presence in the USA, in January 1999 the company acquired the Huntleigh Corporation, which at the time of the acquisition was the fifth largest provider of airline passenger screening services in the United States. The addition of this subsidiary placed ICTS International N.V. in a unique position as a worldwide service provider to the aviation industry, with the ability to provide its clients with a broad spectrum of services spanning the Atlantic.

Based in St. Louis, Huntleigh operates at 36 US airports, including most of the international aviation gateways in the USA.

The services provided by ICTS/Huntleigh USA include security agents, charter flights security screening, skycap and wheelchair services, baggage Handling, Ticket Verification Agents, guards, ramp agents, passenger service agents, baggage Services Agents, Crew transport, baggage x-ray, aircraft search, Vendor Security Screening, and more.
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What do you all think of this, and what do you make of it? I'm not coming to any conclusions myself, as I don't know anything about it. Have any of you guys ever seen this?

PEACE!

Ghost


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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:28 AM
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1. Uh, yeah. A similar post was made by a tombstoned DUer in January 2007
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 01:34 AM by greyl
It has been suggested that the incredible feat of hijacking four aircraft without a single arrest at the gate would require the resources of a nation-state. This is even more true with the revelation that at least one gun had managed to be aboard a hijacked plane.

But one thing is clear. By virtue of the Odigo warning, someone knew enough about the planned attacks to warn Odigo before the planes had even departed the airport gates, yet they did not call the Israeli security company at the airports which could have stopped the flights from leaving.

Think about that one for a while.

The Likud fundraising scandal culminated in the March 1996 conviction of three Likudniks, including Menahem Atzmon, Ehud Olmert's co-treasurer. As the party treasurer, Olmert was indicted in the Likud crimes but received special treatment and was acquitted.

During the 1970s Olmert had worked in the law firm owned by another Atzmon, Uzi Atzmon.

Menahem J. Atzmon went on to become the founder and head of ICTS.

Atzmon and his business partner Ezra Harel took over passenger screening and security at the Boston and Newark airports when ICTS acquired Huntleigh USA in 1999. Huntleigh USA is a wholly owned subsidiary of ICTS, a Netherlands-based aviation and transportation security firm headed by former military commanding officers and veterans of government intelligence and security agencies. Huntleigh USA is the airport security firm that ran passenger screening operations at the airports of Boston and Newark on 9/11.

United Flight 175 and American Flight 11, which allegedly struck the twin towers, both originated from Boston's Logan Airport, while United Flight 93, which purportedly crashed in Pennsylvania, departed from the Newark airport.

link


Plus, the quote in your OP is actually from whatrea.... a right-wing antisemitic site. It's not exactly at afrocubaweb.com as you claim. However, there are more than one links to an antisemitic site at afrocubaweb.com.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:39 AM
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2. should I take the post down? I just copied what someone had posted
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 01:40 AM by Ghost in the Machine
on the forums at craig's list... it didn't have any links or citations other than what is in the OP...
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:04 AM
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4. Funny how the first reply at craigslist matches the one from the banned DUer
It has been suggested that the incredible feat of hijacking four aircraft without a single arrest at the gate would require the resources of a nation-state. This is even more true with the revelation that at least one gun had managed to be aboard a hijacked plane. One company had automatic inside access to all of the airports from which hijacked planes departed on 9-11, and to the airports used by Richard Reid, the shoe bomber. An Israeli company. One that Mossad agents could easily find employment with without the management knowing who they were or what their purpose really was.

But one thing is clear. By virtue of the Odigo warning, someone knew enough about the planned attacks to warn Odigo before the planes had even departed the airport gates, yet they did not call the Israeli security company at the airports which could have stopped the flights from leaving.

Think about that one for a while.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/forums/?ID=78112413


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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:54 AM
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3. Funny business with the WTC elevator company too.
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 01:59 AM by dailykoff
A while back KJF posted links to stories showing that after '93 the PA switched the elevator maintenance contract from Otis, who had supplied and installed them, to "ACE Elevator," which has since gone out of business. And I once found a USA Today article reporting that 80 elevator techs were in the towers on 911, all of whom left the buildings and went home immediately after the first "crash," violating policies requiring them to remain on the premises in an emergency.

Hmm..
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:07 AM
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5. Yeah, funny business
ACE had about 80% of its work from the WTC. When a company loses 80% of their income, they tend to go out of business.

Funny, that.

And funny how the elevator techs fled for their lives. Why, you should take that comedy set on the road, daily.

Hmm...
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:18 AM
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6. Most people care more about their jobs than their safety
especially people working in NYC. All 80 workers walking off the job? Not a chance.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:44 AM
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7. It's funny how you have the time they fled wrong as well
It wasn't when Flight 11 hit the North Tower, but when Flight 175 hit the South Tower.

They had assembled in the South Tower to get ready to help the police, but then it was hit as well, and they scattered.

You're a laugh a minute, daily.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 03:13 AM
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8. The entire unit walked off the job in an emergency.
These were not ordinary workers, spin it anyway you like.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:16 AM
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9. They were guys that worked on elevators.
And suddenly planes were flying into their buildings.

Yes, they were supposed to stay and help first responders. No, they did not. Yes, people probably died because they weren't there to get elevators open. Yes, they should be ashamed of this. They probably are.

I'm not sugarcoating what they did. But I'm also not piling conspiracy bullshit onto their heads either. And pointing out that your conspiracy bullshit is conspiracy bullshit isn't defending what they actually did.

One of these days you may understand this.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 05:24 AM
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10. Yes, I imagne they did work on the elevators
or at least in the shafts. But maintenance workers they were not. Not one. If they had been, they would have stuck around, not thrown their jobs away. Working people work because they need to, and job risks are part of what they get paid for.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 05:29 AM
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11. So if they weren't maintenance workers, who were they?
/me braces himself...
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 08:06 PM
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15. Let's call 'em al Qaeda.
I won't be surprised to hear you calling them that very soon, that is if the perps manage to stay out of prison long enough to roll out OCT 2.0.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 08:09 PM
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16. At least you don't disappoint.
So all the elevator maintenance men on 9/11 were members of Al Qaeda, or at least your whacked-out understanding of what Al Qaeda is.

Can I quote you on that?
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 08:14 PM
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17. You heard it here first.
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 08:28 PM by dailykoff
:hi:
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 08:16 PM
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18. Just for complete elucidation...
Would you mind terribly a quick explanation of what you consider Al Qaeda to be in this context? A paragraph should suffice.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 08:27 PM
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19. Why bolo. Didn't you know?
Al Qaeda is part of an extremely dangerous terrorist organization responsible for 911 and many other acts of savagery worldwide, also for much or most of the violence being visited on Iraq and Afghanistan.

And yes, they really do hate us for our freedoms, and they really are trying to frighten us into surrendering them. Succeeding, too.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 08:28 PM
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20. And 80 of those people were the entire workforce for ACE Elevator in the WTC?
That's what you're saying?
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 08:30 PM
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21. They are well financed and very clever, bolo.
Do not underestimate them.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 08:09 AM
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12. It's like playing connect the dots with invisible ink
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 08:13 AM by LARED
"To make the situation worse, a private security company called ICTS, owned by an Israeli, Ezra Harel, and registered in the Netherlands, was employed at Charles de Gaulle airport to screen passengers boarding US planes. Most of its personnel are ex-Shin Bet officers. The company covers security at Boston's Logan airport, where the American Airlines plane came down after flight attendants and passengers overpowered Reid."


Reid's flight was from Paris to Miami. It was diverted to Boston during it fight. So ICTS provides service at Logan? So what? They provide services all over the world

But the idea that an Israeli owned company had inside access to the airport used to launch an abortive terror attack brought to mind the strange message Odigo Systems, another Israeli owned company with offices near the World Trade Towers, received that warned of the impending attacks before the hijacked planes had even left the ground.


How does one's mind leap to the conclusion that these are related? There is an publicly own company with offices in Israel named ICTS that provides services globally, and a supposedly Israeli owned company named Odigo (all I could find it is was an small company located in NY - how it becomes an Israel owned company is unclear). Again so what?

It seems the common thought is that both companies are possibly connected to ISRAEL. I wonder if both companies were connected with the country of Madagascar if we would be seeing to same irrational leaps in imagination.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 08:13 AM
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13. Sources for story is here
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 08:24 AM by LARED
http://debka.com/article.php?aid=300

http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/schoe.htm

The shoe bomb case has also sent ripples through U.S.-Israeli relations. Sources report the angry tone taken by U.S. officials with Israeli security officers and Ariel Sharon himself over the Reid affair. They believe Israeli intelligence services knew six months ago about Reid's suspected involvement in terrorist activities as well as the real purpose of his Gaza visit – but said nothing. Had Israel spoken up, or at least dropped some hint about Reid, he never would have been allowed to board the American Airlines plane. Washington would have tipped off French authorities, which would have picked Reid up immediately on his arrival in Paris.

To make the situation worse, a private security company called ICTS, owned by an Israeli, Ezra Harel, and registered in the Netherlands, was employed at Charles de Gaulle airport to screen passengers boarding U.S. planes. Most of its personnel are ex-Shin Bet officers. The company covers security at Boston's Logan airport, where the American Airlines plane landed after flight attendants and passengers overpowered Reid. The Americans believe someone at ICTS must have known that Reid planned to take that flight and passed it on to Israel, which withheld information that could have prevented a major air disaster.

The Israeli response to U.S. allegations is no less harsh. They admit letting Reid board an El Al flight from Amsterdam to Tel Aviv in July, although an armed sky marshal was ordered to sit next to him. This was a calculated risk to find out who Reid's contacts were in Israel and the Palestinian territories and the only way to cover his movements effectively.

In fact, they found out as early as July 2001 that terrorists associated with the Hezbollah planned to smuggle explosives onto planes in the soles or heels of their shoes.

Israel also realized eight months ago that terrorist operatives had discovered a "dead spot" in support beams for electronic scanning equipment at airports, located roughly 10 cm (four inches) from the floor, through which weapons and explosives can pass undetected.

Israel passed this discovery on to the Americans with a recommendation to pay particular attention to the shoes of suspect passengers.

Reid's were therefore taken off and examined when he showed up at Amsterdam airport for his flight to Tel Aviv, but nothing was found. However, Washington, say the Israelis, failed to act on their warning. Indeed, prior to the Sept. 11 attacks in New York and Washington, they accuse U.S. authorities of consistently ignoring Israeli information linking al-Qaida and Hezbollah terror networks and operations to Arafat and his senior security and intelligence lieutenants. As a result, Israel decided not to bother to let the United States know about Reid last July.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:32 PM
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14. Thanks, LARED... that puts it into more context than what I got, as the
story that I copied and pasted had NO links anywhere. I admit I'm no researcher and wouldn't have known where to *start* looking for the source.

"like playing connect the dots with invisible ink".. :thumbsup: that was a good one!

:hi:

PEACE!

Ghost
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 11:03 PM
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22. You're Welcome nt
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