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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:39 PM
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Another standdown: security at WTC on 9/11
Someone just sent me this. Amazing the things that keep popping up:

Heightened Security Alert Had Just Been Lifted

by Curtis L. Taylor and Sean Gardiner
September 12, 2001,0,1255660.story

The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday.

Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday, bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed.

"Today was the first day there was not the extra security," Coard said. "We were protecting below. We had the ground covered. We didn't figure they would do it with planes. There is no way anyone could have stopped that."


So 9/11 was the first day extra security wasn't there. Yet another remarkable coincidence!
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terisel Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:44 PM
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1. Why were they not warned about the possible hijackings? n/t
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NecessaryOnslaught Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:25 PM
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2. Wow
Edited on Mon Apr-05-04 07:32 PM by NecessaryOnslaught
"But on Thursday, bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed", and five days later the buildings were imploded. What a coincidence indeed! A bomb goes off in the wtc basement in 1993, numerous phone threats are being recieved,structures are being hardened, security is heightened until tuesday 9/11, but lets get rid of these bomb sniffing dogs on thursday,9/6.:wtf: :nuke:
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:29 PM
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3. Kick.
Thanks Paul
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:52 PM
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4. WTC bombs?
Edited on Mon Apr-05-04 07:53 PM by paulthompson
Here are a couple of timeline entries that might be relevant, or might not:

September 5, 2001: Sakher 'Rocky' Hammad, one of five men later convicted of fraudulently obtaining a Tennessee driver's license from a Memphis woman, later claims he was working on the sprinklers in the underground levels of the WTC on this day. When he was arrested, he had a photo ID pass for such work. This story might not mean much, but for the fact that Katherine Smith, the woman who helped him get the fake license, was killed in bizarre circumstances the day before testifying in the case (see February 10, 2002).

February 10, 2002:Katherine Smith is killed one day before he scheduled appearance in court on charges she helped five Muslim terrorists get illegal drivers licenses.Her car supposedly hit a tree and then caught on fire.The FBI later determined that gasoline was poured on her clothing before she died in the fire. A suicide note was found, but prosecutors say they are looking for murder suspects. One of the five Muslims, Sakhera Hammad, was found with a pass for the WTC, dated September 5, 2001, in his wallet. Hammad claims he was a plumber and worked on the WTC's sprinkler system that day (see September 5, 2001). Smith was being investigated by the FBI; the five later plead guilty to charges of fraud.

I should point out the company hired to do all the plumbing work for the WTC said they never heard of this guy and have no idea how he got such a pass.
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Zo Zig Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 12:39 AM
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9. An odd tidbit
from Memphis, the coroner that signed off on Smith also signed off on the microbiologist that died in a suicide off a bridge there about the same time. Whats odds is that the coroner was involved in a situation where he was found bound with barb wire and a bomb strapped to his body. It was latter found that he had stage the event. Strange stuff. Listed in the Memphis paper. The barb wire situation was on America's Most Wanted.
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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 02:42 AM
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10. why this question "WTC bombs" ?
As your introduction stated, bomb sniffing dogs were there for a long time. And the special security alert was stopped one day ago.

We know that even tons of explosives did not take the WTC down a decade ago. So altogether: how could these Muslims IF (IF !) their passport affair would (WOULD !) point into the direction of a bombing ever fulfill their work.

And if - what sense would it have to take planes AND bombs.

The story of the Muslims stinks. It is distraction again. Find the names, find out where they were in the days after the bomb sniffing dogy left the WTC, find any evidence more than "passports" and "Muslims". A red herring needs to look like a herring, and those who organized the standdown of the jet fighters that day like to lay red herrings, one in a week at least. Which point to anybody else except to them.

Muslims. Hahaha.
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 11:51 AM
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12. I dont know
Maybe these muslims were not working for O.B.L. but for others(?)

Just a thought.

Here is something very relevant that I just got in :

"To John Kaminski,
I was pleased to read your article "The Official Version of 9/11 is a Hoax" ... Please note some other facts. My name is Scott Forbes and I still work for Fiduciary Trust. In 2001 we occupied floors 90 and 94-97 of the South Tower and lost 87 employees plus many contractors.
On the weekend of 9/8,9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36hrs from floor 50 up. I am aware of this situation since I work in IT and had to work with many others that weekend to ensure that all systems were cleanly shutdown beforehand ... and then brough back up afterwards. The reason given by the WTC for the power down was that cabling in the tower was being upgraded ... Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower. I was at home on the morning of 9/11 on the shore of Jersey City, right opposite the Towers, and watching events unfold I was convinced immediately that something was happening related to the weekend work ...
I have mailed this information to many people and bodies, including the 9/11 Commission but no-one seems to be taking and registering these facts. Whats to hide? Can you help publicise them?
Please feel free to mail me.
Scott Forbes "
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:07 PM
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13. WTC Facilities Manager knows about work orders. S/he should be asked.
I think it would be very interesting to see work orders for the time period in question. Someone must know the name of the company (companies) that ordinarily does "cabling" work for the WTC. Should be very easy to discover which co's are the ones. Cabling co's who normally work in NYC high-rise buildings would probably know, since they
most likely would have bid on the job themselves.

If the perps were really smart, they would have actually covered their tracks by hiring a firm to do cabling order to provide cover for the more important "cabling" work - whose significance would become apparent on 9-11-01.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:55 PM
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14. This should be pursued.
Work orders were likely destroyed in the collapse, though. Someone should know who was responsible for the power out, though.
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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:56 PM
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15. Fascinating
I agree, this lead needs to be pursued.
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bpcmxr Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:54 PM
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5. Didn't Marvin Bush have something to do with security at the WTC? n/t
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:12 PM
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6. Paul, the 9/11 Citizen watch appeared on Cspan
and one of the members was William Rodriguez. He was in charge of a stairwell (keys) of one of the WTC buildings and let authorities in and helped people escape. He stated on Cspan that he believes he saw one of the terrorist in the building days before the attack. He said he gave the information to the authorities and never heard anymore about it.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 02:00 PM
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7. Meanwhile, back at the Pentagon
"I told him to scramble; we'll get clearances later," Arnold said. His instincts to act first and get permission later were typical of U.S. and Canadian commanders that day. On Sept. 11, the normal scramble-approval procedure was for an FAA official to contact the National Military Command Center (NMCC) and request Pentagon air support. Someone in the NMCC would call Norad's command center and ask about availability of aircraft, THEN SEEK APPROVAL FROM THE DEFENSE SECRETARY --Donald H. Rumsfeld--TO LAUNCH FIGHTERS.
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MasterKey Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 12:05 AM
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8. Great find!
Thanks from me as well Paul. I love your site. Have spent many entire evenings there. Keep up the great work!

Masterkey--- :)
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 09:05 AM
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11. Bomb sniffing dogs removed...hmmmm
So, on Friday through Tuesday morn., explosives could have easily been brought into the towers.

The argument about a controlled demolition needing lots of time is BS. Yeah, if you planned on a control scenario that would keep nearby structures from collateral damage, then a very careful and detailed setup would be pertinent. But, as we saw, other structures were damaged.

Placing explosives on one floor would not be that difficult. Placing the explosives on the inner core uprights would be really easy, and could be done in a couple of days.

As I recall, floors identified as equipment floors are where the windows blasting out were recorded on tape. It would have been very easy to set explosives on that floor any time after the bomb sniffing dogs were removed.
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