Israeli settlers poisoning our sheep, say West Bank farmers

[emad]

By Donald Macintyre in Tuwani, West Bank
27 April 2005


Highly toxic chemicals have been spread on Palestinian sheep pastures in what villagers believe is an escalation of a campaign of harassment against them by Jewish West Bank settlers.

Amnesty International has called on the Israeli authorities to investigate fully a systematic poisoning attack which they say has killed more than 20 sheep in Tuwani, a village of 250 people, and two others in the south Hebron hills.

The poisoning here and in Umm Faggara and Kharruba came to light after a series of violent attacks over the past year by masked men on international volunteers accompanying shepherds and protecting Palestinian children walking to and from school in Tuwani from the outlying village of Tuba. The last, on 16 February, left a Italian human rights activist, Johannes Steger, with a fractured jaw, a torn retina and amnesia.

The villagers blame the nearby settlers of Maon and Havat Maon for the attacks, which have prompted the army and police to provide an armed escort for the children travelling round the settlement between the two villages.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=633333

[drdon326]

1. Riiiiiiiiiiight....

poisoning our sheep....

before that it was Suha's poisoning our water

and before that it was using mind control techniques using double-secret radio waves.


those damn "pigs and monkeys".

[Darranar]

2. See, the sheep committed suicide...

They decided they did not want to serve the evil Palestinians anymore.

How dare anyone blame this on the settlers!

This is clearly an outburst by anti-Semites and Israel-haters.

[Colorado Blue]

3. If this happened, who did it should be arrested right away

and they should GO TO JAIL.

Plus, people should be paid for their losses.

It it is true, it sucks.

If not, it's bullshit propaganda and we already have enough.

Either way I hope somebody investigates.

[Coastie for Truth]

4. If true - they should be prosecuted and jailed

but me thinks this smells like the Medieval "Poisoners of the Wells" and the "Gentile Toddler Blood in Matzos" and other things from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

But, I am sure this will have credibility with some I/P "Regulars"

[Darranar]

5. So who poisoned the sheep?

The shepherds themselves?

Amnesty International?

Satan?

[Coastie for Truth]

6. Not being a Veterinary Physician

(and my toxicology course was 3 credits of Industrial Toxicology for Engineers - 40 years ago) I can not render a toxicology/pathology opinion.

However, there are lots of highly contagious "bugs" that attack farm animals - as well as improperly applied ag chemicals.

I've been through the OSHA Industrial Tox bull crap - I have actually worked in chemical plants -- and was a maritime water pollution environmental cop in my CG days.

[Violet_Crumble]

9. You weren't asked for a diagnosis...

You were asked who you think poisoned them. The settlers who do this sort of thing aren't butter wouldn't melt in their mouth sort of people. They've been known to destroy olive groves, and attack and murder Palestinians. Why is it so hard to believe that some settlers would try to destroy flocks of sheep and farmland?

Violet...

[Coastie for Truth]

11. See append 10 "10. I was at a FEMA-Citizens Corps-CERT "WMD Defense" class

where I stated

I was at a FEMA-Citizens Corps-CERT "WMD Defense" class -- last night.

I asked the presenter about "poisoning of farm animals." He quickly responded that only one quarter of one percent of "suspected poisonings' reported to California law enforcement are "third party" or "criminal" or "malicious" poisonings. I think one quarter of one percent is a bit low for accusation of deliberate poisoning - unless one is building on "Black Death" and "Protocols" of "Poisoners of Wells" legends.

The rest are owner misuse of agricultural chemicals, rapidly progressing infectious diseases, and naturally occurring toxins (mistletoe is a good example, lots of others - we always got warned at Boy Scout Camp).

I am not a toxicologist (3 credits 40 years ago and the periodic OSHA compliance and EPA compliance "mini-course" updates). I am not a pathologist (I have a patent on a "do it yourself" blood glucose-cholesterol-H1AC meter), and I am not a veterinarian (but I have always had companion animals). I am just reporting what our presenter said. '

[Violet_Crumble]

13. Yeah, I forgot California and the West Bank are the same place...

Did yr presenter drag out a map and show you where California was and where the West Bank is and point out the differences? I didn't realise that California was actually occupied territory and the occupying power had been encouraging its citizens to settle there, and that the extremists among those citizens had a nasty tendency of destroying Palestinian property and livelihoods, as well as at times murdering Palestinians. Silly me!

Be very careful not to fall into the trap of trying to defend extremists on either side. It's very unbecoming as far as I'm concerned...

Violet...

[Coastie for Truth]

10. I was at a FEMA-Citizens Corps-CERT "WMD Defense" class

last night.

I asked the presenter about "poisoning of farm animals." He quickly responded that only one quarter of one percent of "suspected poisonings' reported to California law enforcement are "third party" or "criminal" or "malicious" poisonings. I think one quarter of one percent is a bit low for accusation of deliberate poisoning - unless one is building on "Black Death" and "Protocols" of "Poisoners of Wells" legends.

The rest are owner misuse of agricultural chemicals, rapidly progressing infectious diseases, and naturally occurring toxins (mistletoe is a good example, lots of others - we always got warned at Boy Scout Camp).

I am not a toxicologist (3 credits 40 years ago and the periodic OSHA compliance and EPA compliance "mini-course" updates). I am not a pathologist (I have a patent on a "do it yourself" blood glucose-cholesterol-H1AC meter), and I am not a veterinarian (but I have always had companion animals). I am just reporting what our presenter said.

[newyorican]

16. Ahh yes..the blurring of falsehood and truth...

"Poisoners of Wells" legends

By not so cleverly mixing the "Poisoners of Wells" accusations with "Black Death" and "Protocols" (where's the blood-pastry story?) the attempt is made to nullify events that actually happened, and have been recorded by historians. Just so this post cannot be deliberately misinterpreted to change the topic, yet again, I am addressing your assertion that Israelis poisoning Palestinian wells is a "legend".

And I began to find out about the barbaric methods used to rid the fledgling state of as many Palestinians as possible. The world recoils today at the thought of bacteriological warfare, but Israel was probably the first to actually use it in the Middle East. In the 1948 war, Jewish forces would empty Arab villages of their populations, often by threats, sometimes by just gunning down a half-dozen unarmed Arabs as examples to the rest. To make sure the Arabs couldn't return to make a fresh life for themselves in these villages, the Israelis put typhus and dysentery bacteria into the water wells.

Uri Mileshtin, an official historian for the Israeli Defense Force, has written and spoken about the use of bacteriological agents(1). According to Mileshtin, Moshe Dayan, a division commander at the time, gave orders in 1948 to remove Arabs from their villages, bulldoze their homes, and render water wells unusable with typhus and dysentery bacteria.

(1) Mileshtin was quoted by the Israeli daily, Hadashot, in an article published August 13, 1993. The writer, Sarah Laybobis-Dar, interviewed a number of Israelis who had knowledge of the use of bacteriological weapons in the 1948 war. Mileshtin said bacteria was used to poison the wells of every village emptied of its Arab inhabitants.

source

You appear to be in disagreement, or attempting to shove down a memory hole (more likely) recorded history. No response is required, or even desired as it is not likely to directly address the issue (very likely). Instead you can carry on your argument with Israeli Historians, whom you now find yourself at odds with.

[idontwantaname]

7. from what i remember...

its been in this region that CPT members were(multiple times) "ambushed" and attacked by settlers... i would not be surprised if settlers were poisoning the land.



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What would happen if Christians devoted the same discipline and self-sacrifice to nonviolent peacemaking that armies devote to war?

[newyorican]

8. Israeli Police have been investigating...

these occurrances occurrences. What comes of these "investigations" is yet to be determined.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x88900

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10119032

[Scurrilous]

12. Havat Maon in the news:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=124&topic_id=80091


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=124&topic_id=76458


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=124&topic_id=71693


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=124&topic_id=49892


Neighbors from hell.

[Lithos]

14. It appears to be a deliberate poisoning

The al-Adra family produced a bag of green pellets collected by volunteers which Amnesty says analysts from both Bier Zeit University and the Israeli Nature Protection Authority had identified as barley treated with 2-Fluoracetamide, a powerful rodenticide banned in several countries.

Amnesty says a second poisoning uncovered in the first week of April used Brodifacoum, an anti-coagulant and another highly toxic rodenticide.

Rodenticide is not just casually acquired and dispersed like this.

[bemildred]

15. A bit sordid, don't you think?

Depressing the contemplate this sort of squalid criminality.