How the PA Raises its Children to Hate

[Gimel]

A short film prepared last month by Palestinian Media Watch shows two significant and alarming phenomena in the ongoing Oslo War: The horrifying extent of Palestinian incitement and hatred to Israel, and the Arabs' intention to utilize the methods that led to Israel's retreat from Lebanon to bring about the same in Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem.

An English-language film by Palestinian Media Watch, entitled, "Ask for Death." Containing some of the same selections as the Hebrew version, it can be seen at "http://pmw.org.il/new/". The Hebrew-language film includes examples of formal and informal educational frameworks, as well as televised plays, religious speeches, and more. Some excerpts from the film were described in Arutz-7's report of last Thursday, May. 20 ("http://israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=62783" and "http://israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=62784").

Two religious speeches by Moslem leaders calling for the murder of Jews are featured, including the following excerpts:
"The Jews are Jews, whether they are from Labor or Likud. They are all Jews, and there are no moderates or those who want peace among them, because they are all liars! They should be slaughtered, and they should be killed... The Jews are like a spring. As long as you step on it, it doesn't move. But if you take your foot away from that spring, it will hurt you and punish you!"

"I was very moved when a young boy said to me, 'O Sheikh, I am 14, I have four years left, and then I will blow myself up amidst the enemies of Allah, I will blow myself up amidst the Jews.' I said to him, 'O my little son, may Allah allow you to merit Shehada .' ... We will blow them up in Hadera, we will blow them up in Netanya and Tel Aviv, Allah will give us control over this rabble. The only thing that will scare them will be the color of our blood amidst their filthy nation; it will scare them only when we blow ourselves up, willingly, amidst them... We will enter Jerusalem as conquerors, and Yaffo as conquerors, and Haifa as conquerors, and Ashkelon as conquerors..."

more (for those who can bear it)


View the video here:

http://www.pmw.org.il/new/

[drdon326]

1. Get ready for the usual....

"I dont like your source...."

"No,no,no....its really anti-zionism...."

"You cant believe what those people say....."

"Hey, Israel does it too......"

"Hey, thats just *nationalism* those kids are saying..."

[Violet_Crumble]

2. You forgot this one...

Why is racist sentiments and hate against Arabs okay because the people expressing that hate have supposedly been assaulted, but it's not okay the other way round and suddenly that excuse about being assaulted suddenly vanishes?

btw, I don't like Arutz Sheva. It's racist drivel of the lowest standard....


Violet...

[liberalhistorian]

12. Thanks, Violet-

you said it better and far more diplomatically than I would have! The spin against Palestinians and Arabs in general is just unbelievable, and especially when they're ALL lumped together, down to the youngest baby.

I'm wondering if these people agree with that prominent Israeli rabbie who recently said that it was okay to kill non-Jews if there was a possiblity that Jewish lives would be saved, because Jewish lives were worth more. Imagine their reaction if someone had said that it was okay to kill Jews to save non-Jewish lives because non-Jewish lives were worth more!

The blatant racism and bigotry expressed by those who themselves, as a group, have been the victim of far too much racism and bigotry and persectution is simply unbelievable and unacceptable. It's no more acceptable than attacks against Israelis.

[RC]

3. How can one be anti-bu$h & anti Iraq war and

for what Israel is doing to the Palestinian population? I see very little to no difference. Both are nuclear powers waging war on civilians that are defending themselves from invaders using rocks and small arms.

Or do you think war is good? That what bu$h is doing in Iraq is good.
If so, what are you doing on this board?

[punpirate]

4. Not to throw fuel on the fire...

... but there is balance to this:

http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/0999/9909019.html

What must be accepted as a reality is that almost forty years of occupation has engendered clearly racist institutional attitudes on both sides. It's going to take a long time for the effects of the occupation to fade.

But, one thing's for sure--trying to support Israel as blameless isn't going to speed up that process.

Remove politicians from this process, and I suspect you'll uncover a hell of a lot of people on both sides who are anxious for a genuine peace.

Cheers.

[tinnypriv]

5. Or this - nice maps Jewish Agency recognised charities use:

http://www.akhlah.com/israel/geography.asp

Directed at kids.

[papau]

6. At least the two sides use the same map - just a different name on

the country!

Last Friday we had a few protesters/screamers at Copley Sq in Boston calling for "single state solution" - meaning no "Jewish" state.

Actually if Iraq does indeed go secular without a state religion, grants everyone the right and ability to change religion without punishment, freedom of religion, Israel will see the example and perhaps follow.

But Israel actually has freedom of religion already - what I refer to is really is allowing a State where Judism is not a majority. And I wonder if Islam is ready for ministers converting folks to Christains and Jews converting those that requested conversion to Judism - since that is one item Israel would need to see for a one state idea to have majority appeal.

[liberalhistorian]

14. A lot of Israelis, though, are getting tired of the

Orthodox seemingly running the show in Israel and its attempts to dictate the lives of those belonging to different sects of Judaism (Reform, Conservative, etc.) and even those Israelis who are not particularly religious; they're really starting to resent it.

[papau]

15. I agree - but it has been this way for 30 years -and as long as "religious

are needed for the formation of a gov - I suspect it will continue.

Certainly the majority of the Jewish population resents it - but they tend to not get violent about it - whereas the other side has been known to take to the streets with a bit of violence.

[Gimel]

9. This is true

war against an Arab enemy that refuses to accept and acknowledge the existence and rights of Jews in Israel.

This article has been posted before, and it dates from 1999. However, understanding the Palestinian Arabs is necessary. By now, 56 years after the creation of the state, a lot better accommodation could have been made.

The new texts will have to fault the leaders.

Israel is not "blameless" but has more goodwill than the Arab side. There is more good will, and a willingness to do more than half the work to achieve peace. That doesn't seem to be enough for Arafat.

[Classical_Liberal]

7. Moslem clerics and the PA are not necessarily the same.

. That is a "they all look alike" smear.


Israeli schools teach unsavory things about Palestinians, like the idea that they aren't a real people, and that there were no people in Israel when Israel was founded.

If this source is hated it is because it is pure bunk.

[Gimel]

8. The, just try the video link.

It is not from Artuz 7.

[Gimel]

10. This is too extreme

I suppose it is what you have "learned" so I can't change your mind.

[Classical_Liberal]

11. Golda Mier said the Palestinian people don't exist.

"Land without People for a people without land," was a popular slogan for the early zionist movement.

If you don't dispute this it is probably because you can't.

Your hero Dershowitz even claims it.

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/id144_m.htm

His book states that the Palestinians are descendents of people who immigrated to Israel after Partition from other middle eastern countries.

I'll leave aside the plagerism claims, because they aren't as interesting to me as what was stated in the book.

[Gimel]

16. Having read Dershowitz

I assume you have, as you know what he says, or is it just the finkelstein page you are referring to? I haven't read Dershowitz, I can't claim that he is my "hero", but there is some truth in the quotations, from what I have learned from other historical accounts.

This doesn't negate the rights of the Palestinians, as they have rights like everyone else. However, to claim that they have the sole right to the land, given that it was sparsely populated up until the 1930's when Jews started arriving in numbers, is also a stubborn refusal to accept facts and history, and the humanitarian rights of the Jews to their homeland.

[newyorican]

13. There is a war in Norway??

:shrug: