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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 12:27 PM
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Israel's tank commander indicted over death of Palestinian boy
Israel's tank commander indicted over death of Palestinian boy
JERUSALEM, Dec. 14 (Xinhuanet) -- An Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) tank commander has been indicted in the IDF Northern Command's military court over causing the death of an eight-year-old Palestinian boy, Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz reported Sunday.
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Several months ago, the Palestinian Center for Human Rights which operates in the Gaza Strip demanded the IDF conduct an investigation of the boy's death.
The IDF Military Prosecutor Colonel Eitan Ron notified the Palestinian human rights group on Dec. 4 that an IDF soldier has been indicted for the incident.
The indictment sheet stated that the soldier commanded a Merkava3 tank in a unit attached to the Northern Command, and he ordered asubordinate to open fire from a mounted machine gun at a group of Palestinians, including children.
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Since the beginning of the current intifada (uprising) in fall 2000, about 10 indictments have been issued against IDF soldiers for incidents in which Palestinians were killed or wounded by IDF fire. E
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 02:56 PM
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1. No replies?
If a tree falls in an empty forest, does it make a sound?
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Noon_Blue_Apples Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 02:59 PM
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2. what do you expect?

intellectual honesty from the religious right?



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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:04 PM
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3. How about an acknowledgment that Israel does the right thing
when one of its soldiers does wrong. This is a stain against that soldier and the IDF but it is a reaffirmation of Israel as a just and civilized society that polices itself responsibly even when the victims of crimes are from the people of their sworn enemies. Israel upholds justice regardless of who is the perpetrator and who is the victim and that is commendable and very, very civilized.

Now, what is this "religious right" that you speak of and what does it have to do with this thread?
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:06 PM
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4. one indictment, thousands of murders
to call this a vindication for Israel is pretty laughable.
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:19 PM
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10. To even suggest that there were "thousands of murders"
is beyond laughable. It's pure demagoguery. It's also completely expected.

Israel has indicted ten of its own and has investigated and tried many more. Have its enemies done anything comparable? No. The only justice meted out by the PA is street justice to suspected "collaborators" and political enemies, who are butchered in the streets.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:08 PM
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5. It's already been discussed...
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:08 PM
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6. When Sharon will be serving justice for all
of his crimes and bloody past, then we can talk about justice. Now he's the main figure in Israel. Now that's sad enough...
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:14 PM
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9. Sharon is the democratically elected leader of a democratic country
He serves Israel at the behest and will of its citizenry, who elected and re-elected him in a landslide. And let's not forget that, but for Ariel Sharon's heroics in 1973, there would be no Israel. Which, doubtlessly, would suit many people just fine.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:24 PM
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16. he's still a criminal ...
..so do you think he's great guy ?
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Noon_Blue_Apples Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:24 PM
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7. Yes, like Americans punishing cowardly pilots

who bomb Canadian troops....sure....yes, jingoistic justice.

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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:05 PM
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8. What, exactly, made those pilots "cowardly"
Are you suggesting that American pilots purposely and maliciously murdered Canadian troops? Do you have any evidence whatsoever that the pilots in question are or were "cowardly" or that they did anything more tahn commit a tragic error? Because unless you do, that looks like another cheap, thoughtless, knee-jerk smear of both American troops and America.
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Noon_Blue_Apples Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:56 PM
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11. Please

They were drugged cowboys with itchy trigger fingers who pissed their pants at a flash - cowardice does not take malice of forethought. Go look at the facts and tell me otherwise.

It was both a cowardly act and a tragic error.

There was no justice - nor common decency from the American government.

Save the Jingoism for someone else. Because unless you do, that looks like another cheap, thoughtless, knee-jerk rationalization of the acts of both American troops and America


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 07:51 PM
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Noon_Blue_Apples Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:23 PM
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14. crackerjack box logic

How does the condemnation of the action of two men become the all encompassing "American troops".

"I/P members
"Jingoism"
"cheap, thoughtless, knee-jerk rationalization""

This just shows you don't know who originally said what, so don't waste my time.

BTW they were killed in Afghanistan. I know...they are all the same.

But continue to flail, cheerlead and scream indignation.







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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 08:45 PM
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 07:35 PM
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12. Well said, Blitz!
Your eloquence far surpasses mine.
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