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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:03 PM
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Palestinians Rethink Statehood Bid
Washington Israelis warned of a diplomatic tsunami, Palestinians promised a game changer that would reshape Middle East peacemaking, and the White House and Congress geared up for an all-out battle inside and beyond the United Nations.

But on November 11, the Palestinians initiative to gain statehood recognition from the U.N. Security Council ended finally not with a bang, but with a whimper.

That day, a subcommittee of the U.N. Security Council tasked with debating the Palestinian request for full membership submitted its report with no recommendation. Failing to reach a majority of members supportive of the bid, the subcommittee did not call on the Security Council to vote on accepting Palestine as a member state. Despite this, and despite the certainty they will lose there, Palestinian Authority leaders decided in a November 16 meeting in Ramallah to request a Security Council vote.

The process that began on September 23 with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas waving the statehood request document in front of a cheering audience at the U.N. General Assembly thus ended with a set of low-key Security Council meetings and a mumbled Palestinian promise to continue knocking on the door of the Security Council, Palestinian foreign minister Reyad Al-Malki put it on November 16.
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krucial Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 07:45 PM
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1. Palestinians
The palestinians will have their state no matter how the US and Israel tries to deny them that right.The only thing is how much land they will have,because Israel is constantly ripping off and stealing more and more of the Palestinians land and building ever more New illegal settlements and saying they want talks while they know Palestinians will not agree to talks as long as land stealing is going on.Israel plans is rapidly steal enough land so by the time israel is ready to talk peace,there will not be enough land left for the Palestinians to call a state.
But,The real fact is,as long as the US is the moderator,the palestinians can forget about ever having a state,the USA must be taken out of the middle and replaced by a neutral unbiased referee
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:43 PM
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2. and once again the title is 'inaccurate'
from the article but left out of the snip

The initiative has failed, for now, said David Makovsky, director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policys Project on the Middle East Peace Process, but I dont think the Israelis should dance the hora. The Palestinians, he explained, defined success as defiance more than they defined success as success, and therefore, internally, Palestinians can still be pleased by their move.

The Palestinians needed nine countries to vote in favor of their request, but managed to secure only eight. A concerted diplomatic drive by the Obama administration secured no votes or abstentions from Bosnia-Herzegovina, Colombia, Britain, France, Germany and Portugal. Put together, this was enough to kill the Palestinian bid without America using its veto power on the council a move it sought urgently to avoid.

As the dust settles, experts diverge in their opinions about the domestic and political impact of the Palestinian effort. All agree that it failed to achieve its fundamental goal: obtaining recognition of Palestine as a full U.N. member. But some see ancillary purposes fulfilled in the process.

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the initiative hasn't even failed it has been put in a holding pattern by the US using bribery and very likely threats labeled 'diplomacy' here the US has the distinct honor of being so determined to not allow the Palestinians to have a state without Israeli approval that it also threaten to allow thousands of women and children around the globe to further sickness starvation and death if the Palestinians are allowed into such UN agencies due to a US law that targets Palestinian efforts to gain a state

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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 06:13 AM
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3. The title is completely accurate
With the inability to get the needed votes in the UNSC, they are rethinking their bid. The excerpt you provided demonstrates that.
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