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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 09:47 AM
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Poll: American voters' support for Israel rising
WASHINGTON Americans support for Israel is up, with the increase coming from unexpected sectors, an Israel Project poll released on Thursday revealed.

The poll demonstrated that support for Israel among President Barack Obamas Democratic voters was on the rise, and that the majority of Americans believed that Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu was more committed to peace than his Palestinian counterpart.

Support for Israel among Democrats has risen by 10 percentage points in the past six months, while support among independent voters and Republicans has remained steady.

This poll shows that Israel is significantly more popular among American voters than either the president or Congress, Israel Project Founder and President Jennifer Laszlo-Mizrahi said. Second, it shows that the American public really supports the peace process and the two-state solution.

http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=245193


This is heartening news. Funny that Israel is seen more favorably by Americans than Congress is.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 09:49 AM
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1. Why would a poll compare a nation to politicians? C'est bizarre.
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 09:53 AM
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The poll did not do such a comparison.
Approval ratings are higher for Israel (> 50%) than the US Congress (<15%). Just like Americans prefer Baseball to Soccer.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 09:54 AM
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3. Whatever.....it's an odd premise for a story.
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:35 AM
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7. But it is not the premise of the story
The premise of the story is that more Americans are demonstrating a growing support for Israel.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:43 AM
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8. Ahh, and about the source of this poll.......

from thinkprogress:



The Washington- and Jerusalem-based pro-Israel lobby organization The Israel Project (TIP) claims to be dedicated to get(ting) facts about Israel and the Middle East to press, public officials and the public. But it appears that the group is not always particularly interested in getting the facts out. A ThinkProgress investigation has revealed that not only is TIP connected to an Iran-focused media group allegedly based in London, but also the pro-Israel group appears to be trying to cover up those ties.

Last year, a LobeLog investigation of TIP revealed ties between the group and a European media organization called Ralit-EU, a group that focuses on developments in Iran and the Middle East which pose a global threat. When asked about Ralit-EUs connections to The Israel Project, TIP co-founder and president Jennifer Laszlo Mizrahi intimated that the reporter (this posts co-author, Eli Clifton, now at ThinkProgress) was a conspiracy theorist and asked that he pls (sic) check your facts before you make me/TIP into some scary boogie man.

Now, ThinkProgress has learned that in 2008, the Ralit-EU project received a quarter-million dollars through a donation made to TIP by the Marcus Foundation. According to the foundations tax filings , TIP, at its K Street address, received the $250,000 for Iran Media Project Realite-EU, which was listed as the Project Title. A screen capture of the grant can be viewed below: http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/07/20/270650/israel-project-realite-eu/



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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:33 AM
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12. Classic IP Forum strategy: Ad Hominem attack
If you cannot attack the veracity of the article, find a link on the interwebs that damns the source.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:46 AM
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13. But the source of the POLL (not the article) calls into question the veracity of the article.
Edited on Sun Nov-13-11 11:47 AM by marmar
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 01:45 PM
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15. Thanks for defining an ad hominem attack for us
Yes, you do not like the source, therefore it must not be true. Class ad hominem.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 09:53 AM
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2. just because someone says something, doesn't mean it's true.
My grandfather had a saying. "Believe nothing that you hear and only half of what you see".
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 03:41 PM
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16. I agree, Yet the poll methodology looks solid
I have seen no complaints about the statistical significance of the poll.
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:10 PM
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22. You hate this result
Don't you ?

;)
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Yon_Yonson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 09:56 AM
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4. Who did they survey the American 1%
Don't believe this article for a second and I view it as propaganda
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newblewtoo Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:13 AM
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5. People should
take more time reading the article and less time shooting from the lip.

I don't normally read The Jerusalem Post but found the article well written and informative.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:45 AM
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9. but perhaps you should read more about the source of the poll
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:56 AM
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10. OK I read the source
So you believe that American people don't support Israel huh?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:59 AM
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11. No, but polls are manipulated to get a more desirable resut all the time. Just sayin'.
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 08:54 AM
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19. Do you have any evidence of that
Interpretation of statistically valid poll data may focus on less significant dat elements. For example, using the median if the average is less desirable. However, you proferred no evidence of that.
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:29 AM
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6. I don't believe it. With all the crap we have going on here, who
has time to even think about Israel. Politicians and the propaganda machine.
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 10:47 AM
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21. Well, Israelis *are* more popular than Congress
Congress is hovering below 10%. Perhaps Americans are looking for positive role models that deal with adversity effectively rather than resort to partisan bickering.
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Ginas Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:53 AM
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14. Decrease funding to "palestinians," increase funding to Israel
That's the right thing to do. Sarcasm OFF.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 12:25 AM
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17. Oh I'd give anything for there to be a two state solution.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 07:39 AM
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18. There's nothing heartening about the attitudes towards Palestinians in that poll...
From the article:

'Over half of those polled 56% consider Palestinians to be extremist and an obstacle to peace, and 55% do not consider Palestinians to be victims.'

Do you find that heartening or agree with those who think Palestinians are extremists and an obstacle to peace?
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 01:45 PM
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20. Is 56% about the same margin that voted the terrorist group into Hamas?
If so, yes, their votes were an obstacle to peace.
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