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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 05:19 PM
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Deal for Release of American Held in Egypt (Ilan Grapel)
JERUSALEM Israel announced on Monday that it had reached an agreement with Egypt, with American assistance, for the release of Ilan Grapel, an American law student from Queens who also holds Israeli citizenship.

Mr. Grapel, who was arrested in Egypt in June and charged with spying for Israel, is to be exchanged for 25 Egyptians, among them three minors, held in Israeli jails.

Egyptian state television made a similar announcement on Monday, Agence France-Presse reported.

No date was given for the release but it is expected to take place within days. The Israeli security cabinet is to convene on Tuesday to approve the agreement; because the Egyptians slated to be released are not classified as security prisoners, there is not likely to be much opposition to the deal.

full: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/25/world/middleeast/deal-for-release-of-american-held-in-egypt.html
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 09:59 AM
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1. Foreign Relations are Deteriorating
When is it acceptable to grab people off the streets and then trade them for convicted felons? Are we now simply going to kidnap people to resolve our differences? This is clearly brutish thuggery on the part of Egypt. There was no trial, only a conviction and transforming Grapel to a bargaining chip.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 10:55 AM
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2. the release will involve 25 Egyptians 3 of whom are minors
Edited on Tue Oct-25-11 10:58 AM by azurnoir
from the article

No date was given for the release, but it is expected to be within days. The Israeli security cabinet is to convene Tuesday to approve the deal; the 25 Egyptians are not classified as security prisoners, so there is not likely to be much opposition.
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:09 PM
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3. Drug smugglers, traffickers and infiltrators
The Israeli Prison Service has published an online list of 25 inmates expected to be free from jail in exchange for the release of US-Israeli citizen Ilan Grapel currently detained in Egypt. All of the prisoners were suppose to be released from jail within the next six years.

According to the agreement, Grapel is expected to be released on Thursday and arrive in Eilat where he will meet with a United States congress member. On Friday he will depart to the US and reunite with his family, which he has not seen for the past six months.

In return, the 22 Egyptian inmates and three minor detainees will be transferred to their homeland. Most of the prisoners were arrested for drug smuggling and trafficking as well as infiltrating into Israel.



http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4139159,00.html
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 05:20 PM
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4. .so some of them are actually being deported back to the country they illegally entered from ?
Edited on Tue Oct-25-11 05:22 PM by azurnoir
(infiltrated) is that unusual?
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 06:12 PM
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5. These drug traffickers will be Egypt's problem soon enough
I wonder if this could be considered extraordinary rendition.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 06:14 PM
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6. wonder if the charges will stick once they're back in Egypt? BTW do consider Mexicans enter
Edited on Tue Oct-25-11 06:14 PM by azurnoir
the US looking for work to be infiltrators?
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