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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:46 AM
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Terror victims’ kin protests Shalit deal by defacing Rabin memorial
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"A man whose family was killed in a terror attack defaced the memorial in Tel Aviv to assassinated Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin in protest of the Shalit prisoner swap.

Shvuel Schijveschuurder, 27, whose parents and three siblings were killed in the 2001 terror attack at the Sbarro restaurant in Jerusalem, attacked the memorial Oct. 13 to protest the Israeli government's decision to free more than 1,000 Palestinian prisoners in a swap for captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit.

Two of the prisoners listed among those to be released were involved in the Sbarro attack.

Schijveschuurder was was ordered to stay out of Tel Aviv for 15 days after being questioned by Tel Aviv police and released Friday.

He had spray-painted the words "price tag" and "release Yigal Amir," Rabin's assassin, on the memorial."

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/10/16/3089840/rabin-memorial-defaced-by-victims-kin-in-protest-of-shalit-prisoner-swap
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 11:55 AM
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1. Accomplice in Rabin murder up for early release
Hagai Amir, brother of former Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin's assassin, might be released six months early due to overcrowding in state's prisons

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4135168,00.html

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"An accomplice in the murder of former Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin might be released early due to overcrowding in the state's prisons, pending a decision from the Israel Prison Service.

Hagai Amir – Yigal Amir's brother – is serving a 16.5-year prison term for conspiracy, weapon possession and intimidation. While he is scheduled to be released in six months, an order from IPS Commissioner Aharon Franco could set him free as early as November 8 along with other inmates whose sentences are nearly up.

The maximal number of prisoners that can be held in the state's facilities is determined by the Interior Ministry, and once the number of inmates exceeds the limit, releasing surplus convicts is at the commissioner's discretion.

In April 2006, Hagai Amir, 43, was sentenced to an additional year in prison after he was convicted of threatening to kill then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. The convict and his brother, Yigal, who was sentenced to life in prison for Rabin's murder, have served most of their sentences in isolated confinement due to fears that other inmates might attempt to harm them."
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 11:57 AM
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2. It is not easy seeing these murderous bastards going free
Especially if they butchered your kin.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:55 PM
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3. Someone who's anti-terrorist and pro-assassin?
Edited on Sun Oct-16-11 06:59 PM by Crunchy Frog
This guy is obviously sympathetic with the Rabin assassination.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:00 PM
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4. I guess terrorist is in the eyes of the beholder
at least sometimes
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 08:00 AM
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5. On the one hand, I think anyone would be upset and angry at the news that the murderer of several of
their family members was about to be released, especially if it was for reasons unconnected with the murderer himself. (Not saying that the exchange shouldn't happen; just this is a natural reaction from a bereaved relative.)

On the other hand, what has Rabin got to do with it? He was murdered long before either the Sbarro outrage or the prisoner exchange.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:45 PM
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6. The person in question apparently approves of the Rabin assassination.
So his outrage would seem to be selective.
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:03 PM
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7.  Clueless


He is lashing out at a symbol of the state who is releasing the butchering murderers of his family.

Some statements are ignorant and clueless
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 01:44 AM
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9. He called for the release of Yigal Amir.
That is the same thing as defending the assassination of Rabin. And you know it.

There is never any justification for murdering an elected head of government.
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 07:01 AM
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11. QED. nt
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 02:34 AM
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10. I somewhat doubt this
As I said earlier, anyone would be upset by the release of someone who murdered their family; and no doubt there will be protests from others in the same position as well. But if this were a general anti-government gesture, he'd have been more likely to deface a poster of Netanyahu, or Barak, or an Israeli flag. This seems more like an act of symbolic solidarity with the far right, especially as they do sometimes call for Amir's release.

Still, it's at least nonviolent. Better a gesture of this sort than an attack on an actual person.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 01:41 AM
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8. So, he attacks "terrorism" while defending the murderer of Yitzhak Rabin
Edited on Tue Oct-18-11 01:44 AM by Ken Burch
(Excuse me, but isn't assassinating an elected head of government still considered terrorism?).
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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 09:40 AM
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12. no.
totally different. terrorism attempts to get political leverage by instituting fear via violence.
political assasinations are abou thwarting an individual to stop policy.

They both seek influencing policy. But the means are very different.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 04:26 PM
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13. It's truly disturbing that you'd make that distinction.
Edited on Tue Oct-18-11 04:27 PM by Ken Burch
Assassination is terrorism. There's no difference between killing Rabin and attacking that Sbarro's. BOTH were equally abhorrent.

The goal of Amir was to prevent Israel from ending the war with the Palestinians. That is an inherently terrorist objective.
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