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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 09:28 AM
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U.S. politicians Liberman and Cantor will be no-shows at Glenn Beck Jerusalem rally

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/u-s-politicians-liberman-and-cantor-will-be-no-shows-at-glenn-beck-jerusalem-rally-1.379829


Connecticut Senator Joseph Lieberman cannot attend due to 'family commitment', Virginia Congressman Eric Cantor, currently in Israel, will be leaving on the day of the rally.


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Lieberman had initially committed to attending the rally during an appearance on Beck’s now-cancelled television show, however, the senator will not be taking part due to a family engagement.

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The spokesperson continued, saying “Senator Lieberman supports this event and wishes he could be there in person to express his support for a secure and free Israel, for Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel, and for a rock-solid US-Israel relationship based on shared, eternal values and common current interests and enemies."
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 01:14 PM
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1. ah but Beck has support from Barry Rubin -Beck gets it right when it comes to the big picture issues
Certainly, Beck makes silly mistakes on factual details. Yet he comprehends the big picture. I don’t say this based on a superficial view or on his support for Israel. As part of the GLORIA Center’s project on understanding current American politics and debates, I have monitored virtually every television and radio show Beck has done over the past two years. When people voice absurd and slanderous stereotypes about Beck, it turns out they haven’t actually listened to what he’s been saying.

Why has Beck gotten things right that so many others have missed or distorted? There are five key reasons: Common sense; courage; knowing the difference between right and wrong, a willingness to learn, and a readiness to admit when one has been wrong. These are virtues often lacking among those with more elegant reputations.

What has he gotten right? 1. The main threat in the Middle East is revolutionary Islamism, and the United States must combat it.

Revolutionary Islamism includes: Iran, Syria, Hezbollah (largely controlling Lebanon), Hamas (governing the Gaza Strip), and the Muslim Brotherhood as well as al-Qaida and, more subtly, the regime governing Turkey. It is an ideology innately hostile to the West, the United States and Israel. It cannot be bought off or moderated. Revolutionary Islamists will either take over the Middle East or be defeated.


http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=235075

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 02:43 PM
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3. Sorry but the likes of Beck can NEVER be regarded as friends
'We must reevaluate friends and enemies in this new era of revolutionary Islamism and post-Marxist leftism.

In the past, Jews often saw conservatives and religious Christians as threats. But we’re no longer in the nineteenth or even the twentieth centuries. Conservatives and Christians aren’t drooling to convert, kill, or use Jews to bring on the apocalypse. While doing everything possible to work with liberals and social democrats, we must understand – whatever our personal political views – that Israel and the Jewish people have a new set of allies.'

Of course, most Christians are not enemies to Jews or to anyone else. However, the Christian *Right* and those who wish to impose religious laws on the state or consider that atheists or those of minority religions are lesser citizens - these are a danger to all. Ironically, the difference between Christians as such and the likes of Glenn Beck, which Rubin ignores here, is precisely equivalent to that between Muslims as such and Islamists, which he emphasizes.

And right-wing attitudes and viewpoints are fundamentally evil; the ultimate threat to all that is good in the world (N.b. I do *not* here mean 'member of right-of-centre party' or 'conservative in the sense of distrusting radical change'; I am referring to Glenn Beck-type ideological reactionaries.) Occasionally, some left-wingers do appear to assume that all who oppose the American Right are progressive, and ignore the fact that the Muslim Right is no better, and often worse, than the Christian Right. But Rubin is ignoring the fact that right-wingers of any stripe are no friend to anyone, least of all, in the long term, any minority group including Jews.

The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend!


'The main threat in the Middle East is revolutionary Islamism, and the United States must combat it.'

Combat it how? Invade still more countries?

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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 03:01 PM
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4. absolutely no need to apologize
it was posted as an example of who Beck's 'friends' or 'supporters' are nothing more
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 02:29 PM
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2. Glad to hear that.
Whatever one's views on Israel, Beck is a destructive force of evil, who should be avoided by all.
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 05:46 PM
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5. Agree,he is crazy nt
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-11 05:57 PM
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6. and Dershowitz too
According to Beck's website, the event will take place just steps away from the Western Wall and the Temple Mount, and will call for unity among all faiths, honoring Israelis who have displayed courage in their struggle for survival and peace.

The rally will be attended by religious leaders, esteemed speakers and entertainers including Western Wall Rabbi Shumuel Rabinovitch, Academy Award winning actor Jon Voight and internationally renowned singer Dudu Fisher.


Dershowitz added, "I certainly admire Beck's decision to go to Israel far more than the decision of so many so-called artists and intellectuals who call for a boycott against the Jewish state without even bothering to go there and see for themselves."


"I welcome the support of religious Christians who love Israel for religious reasons. I abhor the ignorant and misguided efforts of other Christians, such as Jimmy Carter and Desmond Tutu, who misuse their faith against the Jewish state," Dershowitz noted.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4112880,00.html
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