BLAMING ISRAEL FOR ISTANBUL

[rini]

Communique: 20 November 2003

British Consulate, Istanbul (Reuters photo)
Today's coordinated bombings against British targets in Istanbul, occurring just days after the dual bombings of Istanbul synagogues, make the Islamic terrorist message brutally clear ¯ their targets are the Jewish people and Western democratic civilization. What most Americans recognized after 9/11, Europeans are now also beginning to see: radical Islamists threaten every Western citizen, and Israel is merely a convenient front line for their battle.

There is, however, a concern about the re-emergence of a trend we witnessed after 9/11 ¯ the media's shift of focus away from this stark reality, and onto Israeli policy as a scapegoat for Islamic terrorism.



http://www.honestreporting.com/

[bluesoul]

1. What do the Palestinians

have to do with these attacks?

[Resistance]

3. bluesoul

c'mon get with the program: "They hate us for our freedoms" is what Bush said.

[Noon_Blue_Apples]

5. check this out from the partisan site re: bias

http://www.honestreporting.com/a/What_is_Bias.asp

"Conrad Black is CEO of Hollinger International, and publisher of The Spectator (London), The Jerusalem Post, and other publications. He writes:


"The British media habitually apply a double standard when judging the Israelis and Palestinians. Behind the spurious defence of merely seeking justice for the Palestinians, most of the relevant sections of the BBC, Independent, Guardian, Evening Standard and the Foreign and Commonwealth Office are rabidly anti-Israel.""

they actually quote 'vader' in reference to being fair and unbiased.

Aren't partisan hypocrites all the rage.

B

[Jack Rabbit]

17. Honest Reporting

There aren't many more Orwellian names around. Surely the British press is not above criticism, nothing is. However, to exalt Mr. Black's fishwrap above the BBC and Guardian is simply ridiculous.

A cursory purusal of the website shaows that HonestReporting's idea of bias is any criticism of Israel, fair or unfiar; their idea of good journalism is not asking questions about what Sharon does, no matter how questionable.

[edzontar]

2. I fail to see that anyone is blaming Israel for this....

I just can't find the connection in this excerpt.

As I understand it, the present theory is that it is Al-Qaeda, or some Al-Qaeda like group.

It is horrible to see this happening in Istanbul, which has been relatively peaceful lately.

[whirlygigspin]

4. Is this the blarney stone

of propaganda or what?

too obvious.

[Noon_Blue_Apples]

6. I started following links

since the blurb is not on the provided link.

gotta love this:

THE CHEMISTRY OF THE SOUL

The Jewish soul, which is really a cell of the collective soul of the Jewish people, is eternal and immutable. Once someone acquires a Jewish soul, either by inheritance from one's mother or by halachic conversion, one can no more renounce one's Jewish soul than one can renounce one's DNA. Souls are not generic. The Jewish soul, like the soul of every nation, has its own specific properties, some of which are compassion, altruism, and shame (the source of Jewish guilt!). The Talmud goes so far as to say that if you see a Jew devoid of compassion, you can legitimately doubt that he's a Jewish soul.

One of the properties of the Jewish soul is that it cannot bond with any other type of soul. This is why intermarriage is ultimately a denial of one's essence. Marriage is a union of souls, not just bodies and hearts. A Jewish soul cannot unite with a non-Jewish soul any more than a helium atom can bond with any other atom. Not because helium is clannish or racist or snobbish -- or any worse than a hydrogen atom, but because chemical inertness is simply one of its essential properties.


http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/jewishsociety/The_Spiritual_Roots_of_Anti-Semitism.asp

'Jewish guilt!' - yes, nothing like reinforcing stereotypes

Bill

[bluesoul]

7. Oh my

"A Jewish soul cannot unite with a non-Jewish soul "

You gotta love this part. What does it remind me of? Hmm...

[edzontar]

8. This is more than a little off topic.

The terrorists in Istanbul have targeted first the Synagogues, then the Brits.

There is a method to this madness, which proclaims, in shattered buildings and slaughtered bodies, the terrorist's world-view that Israel/Jews, the Brits and the Americans are the "enemies of Islam."

In that sense, the original post is correct--the terrorists are clearly aiming at Israel and the so-called Coalition and engaging both parties as if they are a common, unified threat.

What we see here, I fear, is a tactical escalation that seeks to unify the I/P and Iraq struggles into a common fight or "war of civilizations."

So, in a way, the terrorists are on the same page as Bushco and Sharon---and together, they are dragging us all down into their abyss of death and destruction.

I think I need a drink.

[bluesoul]

9. I agree, but those

terrorists are not Palestinians and I fail to see what this has to do with I/P...

[edzontar]

10. You are right...but the terrorists in this case have sent a message...

Which I read as directed at the turkish population and its relative tolerance of the Jewish population....which has I/P connections.

That said, no one but these bloodthirsty lunatics would ever "blame" Israel for the Istanbul attacks.

The only guilt in this case points straight to the murderers.

[beanball]

12. Bloodthirsty lunatics

well I suspose that Sharon and his thugs are freedon lovers?get your head out of your rear end,and you'll see things as they really are not as you wish they were.

[edzontar]

13. I hate Sharon and his evil, murderous policies

And have so stated infinite times on this board.

I hate al-Qaeda too.

[The Magistrate]

15. Well Said, Mr. Zontar

Your comments on this matter are very much appreciated, Sir.

[edzontar]

16. Thank you too.....

I would really like to visit Istanbul sometime...it on my "list", so to speak.

I have friends who work there and I hear it is a great city--obviously rich with history, architecture, and art from many cultures.

I am so upset that these terrible things are happening there.

[Classical_Liberal]

11. Al Qaeda are islam's neocons

and they want to confuse jews with israel as much as israel wants to be confused with all jews.

We should have gotten those fuckers in the first place instead of being distracted in Iraq, by Sharon and has supporters here in America.

[edzontar]

14. My sentiments exactly...

Our Iraq policy only strengthened their hand--a real tragedy--even treasonous I'd say.