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don jose Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 07:01 PM
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anti - semetism in our universities
Is anyone else here concerned about the rise of anti-semetism in universities? of course human rights abuses commited by the IDF are well documented but people should not forget that the violence is a two way street. It seems many supposedly 'left wing' pro palestinian groups are descending into blatent anti-semetism. A Left that cares for the rights of humanity cannot cavalierly tolerate the systematic abuse of any people.
Last month Tod Gitlin wrote an opinion piece for Mother Jones complaining that Left wing student movements are spreading anti-Semitism. And this month, the editor of a couple British scholarly journals showed that this growing intolerance is not exclusively American.
Gitlin was reacting to an outrageous incident at San Francisco State University in May when Jewish students held a pro-Israeli Peace In The Middle East Rally.
Their rally was quickly surrounded by Palestinian students and their supporters who yelled things like, "Get out or we will kill you" and "Hitler did not finish the job." The Palestinian student group responsible for the counter-demonstration, General Union of Palestine Students, was later put on probation and had its funding cut by SFSU.
In the UK, Prof. Mona Baker of the University of Manchester Institute of Science and Technology admitted that she fired two scholars from journals that she owns solely because the two scholars were both Israeli citizens.
these are just some of many instances of anti-semetism occuring at universities.
Many people in Europe have signed a boycott against Israel.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 07:07 PM
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 07:14 PM
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5. bull, Israel isn't a racist state, antizionism is more racist than zionism
anti-zionists believe in the destruction of the state of Israel, how is that not bigoted?

I'm sure if anti-buhddists called for the destruction of Tibet you'd have a problem with it
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 07:18 PM
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6. Is that a joke?
Edited on Sun Nov-09-03 07:23 PM by Kamika
Israel is pretty racist nation to be honest they even single out what kinda of jew you are on the I.D cards. Where being a european jew is best sortof.. then the arabic jew.. goin down to the ethiopian jew.

btw ask a israeli what he thinks of the russian israelis..

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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 08:31 PM
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11. Not really. Tibetens are natives that never left for a thousand
Edited on Sun Nov-09-03 08:37 PM by Classical_Liberal
years to displace the natives still there. I am not zionist or antizionist. I don't know whether the present racism against Palestinians on the west bank is central to zionism or not. If you listen to Daniel Pipes it is, even as he protests that zionism should not be called racism. If you listen to Uri Avery it isn't. I haven't made up my mind on the matter. However, I don't want the destruction of the Israeli state because it would just be more stress. I want to see a two state solution.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 07:08 PM
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2. Right
Edited on Sun Nov-09-03 07:11 PM by Kamika
Well first off.. please provide link to whatever this is..

And second two separate incidents aint eactly risin anti semitism.


Id love to see how nice the jews would be in a pro Israeli rally where some small palestinian pro hamas group would come bustling in


And the last thing: "many people in Europe have signed a boycott against Israel"

Just how is that anti semitism?

anyway I give you a D+ I seen much better
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 07:09 PM
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3. I think this is just over-reaction to the horrible treatment
given to the Palestinians.
It is too bad that it directed at Jewish people and not at the Israeli's government policies.
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funkyflathead Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 07:11 PM
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4. This is where Jews should be armed
Anti-semitism IS rising.

Join the Jews For THe Preservation Of Firearms Ownership.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 07:53 PM
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 09:43 PM
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12. A couple of points
first, you closed with: My guess is you're a freeper ...

i believe that's a DU no-no ... make your argument ... don't make accusations ...

second, you stated: Do not be so quick to throw accusations at the free exchange of ideas in this country.

The base post included the following:

Their rally was quickly surrounded by Palestinian students and their supporters who yelled things like, "Get out or we will kill you" and "Hitler did not finish the job."


I wasn't there ... I assume you weren't either ... if those are the facts, I would not consider surrounding people and threatening them with death as, to use your words, "the free exchange of ideas" ...

Let's protect free speech to the fullest but let's recognize what's over the line too ... and this aspect of the facts presented was clearly way over the line ... whether Israeli conduct is reprehensible or not has nothing to do with whether this conduct was wrong ...
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 08:09 PM
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8. I have seen anti-semitism rise among even average citizens
I won't even repeat some of the things I have heard spoken recently. Its all disgusting.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 08:14 PM
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 08:29 PM
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10. The incidences where students said Hitler didn't finish the job
were outrages. The boycott against israel is not antisemitic though.
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undergroundrailroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:00 AM
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13. Locking per I/P Guidelines.
Not based on a recent article or opinion piece.


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