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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:43 AM
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Israelis can sue for suicide blasts
I was interested in this because it seems to be an ruling that the PNA does not hold any sovereign power.

Israelis can now sue the Palestinian Authority for suicide bomb attacks.

The Israeli foreign ministry ruled that the Palestinian Authority, the government led by Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, does not represent a country and therefore does not have immunity from such lawsuits.

The Israeli foreign ministry allowed 55 suits pressing for damages to proceed on Sunday.

Since 2000, 541 people have been killed in 131 suicide bombings in Israel.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/374ADD48-9384-4E96-8C81-0456E69B2B17.htm
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:45 AM
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1. When do Palestinians get to sue for the occupation?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:49 AM
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2. And their stolen olive groves, and water, and farms, and ...
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:50 AM
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4. Aye, that too..........
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:49 AM
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3. What about home demolitions? This I'd love to see Israel pay for.
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pegleg Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:51 AM
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5. And the problem with this is?
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:52 AM
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6. Doesn't Israel maintain they are war? Why can only one side sue the other?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:18 AM
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9. Caveat
Israel is "at war" with Hamas in Gaza, which has nothing what so ever to do with the PA in the WB. Keeping the separation between the two helps "piece process", a unity government, can't have that.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:58 AM
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7. There is no problem.
But it has implications. Who is sovereign in the OPT then? Israel? Nobody? Each of those possibilities has other implications. Authority and responsibility go together. It does little good to hold someone responsible for something they do not control. And it is essential to hold someone responsible for things they do control. If there is nobody in control, then perhaps one ought to do something about that, so as to be able to address other issues.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:09 AM
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8. Doesn't Israels ruling say the opposite?
with the added benefit of possibly freeing Israel from any future legal responsibility for its actions in the WB? Up is down, yellow is purple, and now if you aren't, you are?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:19 AM
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10. Opposite of what?
It says the PNA is not the government of a country, hence it does not have sovereign immunity from civil suit.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:33 AM
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11. Clarifying
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 10:45 AM by azurnoir
the ruling would seem to say that because the PA is not the sovereign government(responsible) it can be held responsible for that which it does not control, while simultaneously insulating Israel for the opposite reason, Israel is sovereign there can not be held responsible.

edited to add this ruling taken to its fullest extent could be seen as the an open ended scuttling any pretense of a 2 state solution, or peace process, any notion of a Palestinian State has been declared null and void, just private parties to be sued, which leaves the question when and if suits are won just where would the award monies come from?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:45 AM
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12. True, it is self-contradictory. You have a good eye.
But in politics that is a small and unimportant matter.
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