Firearms VS. automobiles...

[solinvictus]

According to the FBI, in 2003, there were 9,638 murders committed with firearms. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_03/xl/03tbl2-12.xls

For the same year, there were 38,252 fatalities and 1,952,000 injuries related to automobile accidents. http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd-30/NCSA/TSFAnn/TSF2003EarlyEdition.pdf

Feel free to discuss.

[Rumba]

1. It would be interesting to know

what the death rate per hour of use is... but that's pretty hard to quantify.

[LinuxUser]

2. Hours of use of firearms

I'm using my Glock 24 hours a day, every day. My Glock is making your life safer even though you don't own it or even know me or who I am. So yes, it is hard to define hours of use.

[LinuxUser]

3. Murder and suicide by automobile?

In the US we handle automobile accidents under civil law, but we handle almost all violent use of firearms under criminal law. I would submit that there is quite a bit of violence in an automobile injury, and I would say that quite a bit of it may be intentional to some degree. For example, someone who gets in a car while drunk and drives and kills someone is every bit as culpable of intentional killing as someone who kills by firing a gun carelessly or recklessly, in my opinion. I think there must also be quite a few suicides by automobile that never get labeled as such. Someone is just in a depressed mood, wants to end it all, gets behind the wheel and drives in a certain way... that would end up being labeled as just an "accident" but it may have a large element of "suicide" in it.

Basically, I think that a lot of the violence associated with cars never gets reported as such because it's ambiguous. Violence with firearms is much less ambiguous.

[Cowboy Joe2k]

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[ronzo]

5. 404

:shrug:

[Pert_UK]

6. Don't think I'll bother discussing this, thanks anyway.....

It's been covered many, many, many times before in here (or the J/PS forum).

Just because something else is dangerous (even MORE dangerous), it doesn't mean that guns aren't dangerous at all, or that the dangers of guns should be addressed until all other more dangerous things are addressed.

Never mind considering factors such as amount of hours used, number of deliberate misuses, original intended purposes etc. etc.

[Wickerman]

7. Locking

As the alert that we received said, this thread is flamebait.

Its also a real bastardization of the use of stat - I'd award it the Gungeon Gratuitous misuse of stat to frame your argument trophy, but I lost the damn image.