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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 02:52 AM
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Bastrop chief reports resident kills burglar
It has been a rough day for burglars and home invaders. DUer Commonsense has posted two cases of burglars who go shot by the resident. Here is a third.

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Bastrop-chief-reports-resident-kills-burglar-1434954.phphttp://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Bastrop-chief-reports-resident-kills-burglar-1434954.php

BASTROP, La. (AP) — Bastrop Police are investigating the shooting death of a man who broke into a home.

SNIP

Black says a person broke into a home and was shot and killed by one of the residents.

The chief tells The News-Star the man who was shot has not been positively identified.

Black says Bastrop Police are investigating the shooting with assistance from Ouachita Parish sheriff's deputies. He said arrests in the incident are not likely.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 07:01 AM
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1. Sometimes guns kill the right people...just another fluke I suppose.
Good on the home owner....k&r
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 07:24 AM
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2. oh the humanity!!
How can you say that?

"The criminal was just a victim of certain economic pressures. He was turning his life around. He loved his momma."

Just a few more minutes and all the stalwart defenders of dead criminals will be reminding us how his life was worth more than mere property. They always castigate those who feel no sympathy for those innovative individuals who independently "redistribute wealth" without waiting for a government program.

We should just give them what they want.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 09:51 AM
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3. As I was told by a cop years ago
If you ever, for any reason, shoot someone, drag the body into your house and tell the cops it was a burglar.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:15 AM
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4. NEVER, EVER, DO THAT. IT IS A FELONY.
Leave the body where it falls. If you rearrange the evidence, you are an ameateur at arranging it and the forensic guys are professionals at detecting tampered evidence. Once they detect that you are lying (And they will.) then they won't believe anything you say. Leave the evidence as it is.

Besides, the dead guy is going to have bled out and there will be bloody drag marks to show that you moved him.

Make a basic statement to the police, then take the 5th (politely) and ask for a lawyer.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:19 AM
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5. I'm pretty sure shooting someone is a felony too.
And, as I don't have a gun -- despite being a wicked good shot -- the likelihood of my shooting someone is very very slim.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:32 AM
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6. Shooting someone in legitimate self defense is not a felony...

Ask a Lawyer

If you are charged with shooting another person, it would most likely be both a felony and a
crime of violence. If you believe you acted in self-defense, you would raise that at trial as an
affirmative defense. In most jurisdictions, if the judge finds you have established sufficient
evidence of self-defense, the prosecutor would be required to disprove self-defense to the jury
beyond a reasonable doubt. The jury would be instructed that if it does not conclude the prosecution
met its burden of disproving self-defense, it must acquit you. If that happens, you would not be
guilty of a felony. You would be found not guilty.

On the other hand, if the Judge
refused to instruct the jury on self-defense because he or she believed you hadn't presented
sufficient evidence of self-defense to make it a jury question, and you were convicted of the
shooting, it would be almost certainly be a felony conviction.
http://criminal.lawyers.com/ask-a-lawyer/What-Are-the-Consequences-of-Shooting-Someone-in-S...-7704.html?method=rss]



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