What is the penalty in your state for carrying into places that post "No Guns"?

[VoteProgressive]

I mean for legal CCW holders.

In Kansas, if caught and charges are pressed by the property owner, it is a $50 fine the first time and a $100 fine the second time. The 3rd time is a fine and possible jail time.

Any other states harsher?

[Davis_X_Machina]

1. There never would...

...and never could be such places. It's unconstitutional for a start, and unnecessary, for any place to even have such a sign.

Name me one thing in life guns don't make better.

[VoteProgressive]

2. Cannot even tell if you are serious.

[Davis_X_Machina]

5. That's the problem...

...with much of DU now, isn't it. ;-)

[cleanhippie]

7. On THAT we can agree!

[littlewolf]

4. actually a business can require no guns ....

buffalo wild wings for one has a sign up ....

[cleanhippie]

6. How would anyone know if someone was carring concealed?

Sounds like its an advertisement to criminals that the patrons are not armed.

[VoteProgressive]

9. Well, if the idiots gun drops out like I saw in a home depot. That would be one way.....

Home Depot asked him to leave. No police involved.

[cleanhippie]

12. Idiot indeed.

SOunds like he certainly was an idiot.

[VoteProgressive]

13. Coat pocket deal. Removing coat. Not smart. Home Depot was nice about it though. nt

[rl6214]

17. A coat pocket is not a good way to secure a gun

When I carry it is either in a holster or in a fanny pack designed for concealed carry.

[oneshooter]

21. In Texas unless it is 30.06 compliant and posted at ALL entrances

It carries no weight of law.

PROHIBITING HANDGUNS IN A BUSINESS OR OTHER ENTITY

In order to provide notice that entry on property by a license holder with a concealed handgun is forbidden, Penal Code Section 30.06(c)(3)(A) requires that a written communication contain the following language:

"PURSUANT TO SECTION 30.06, PENAL CODE (TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF A LICENSE TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN) A PERSON LICENSED UNDER SUBCHAPTER H, CHAPTER 411, GOVERNMENT CODE (CONCEALED HANDGUN LAW), MAY NOT ENTER THIS PROPERTY WITH A CONCEALED HANDGUN."

"CONFORME A LA SECCIÓN 30.06 DEL CÔDIGO PENAL (TRASPASAR PORTANDO ARMAS DE FUEGO) PERSONAS CON LICENCIA BAJO DEL SUB-CAPITULO H, CAPITULO 411, CODIGO DE GOBIERNO (LEY DE PORTAR ARMAS), NO DEBEN ENTRAR A ESTA PROPIEDAD PORTANDO UN ARMA DE FUEGO."



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Penal Code Section 30.06(c)(3)(B) further states that a sign must meet the following requirements:

includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;
appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.

A photocopy of the sign(81/2" x 11")is NOT a legal posting.

(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor


Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[cleanhippie]

3. Unless it is aplace designated by law as a "gun free zone" (we know how well those work, right?)

then all the owner can do is ask the patron to leave (but if its concealed, how would they know?). If the patron refuse, then its a trespassing issue.

[VoteProgressive]

14. That seems like the best solution.

[GreenStormCloud]

19. Same in Texas, unless they have a 30.06 sign.

30.06 refers to the part of Texas law that specifies EXACTLY what the sign must say and how big it must be, and at all enterances. Merely a "no guns" sign is meaningless.

[aikoaiko]

28. This is how it works where I live.

[rzemanfl]

8. In Florida I think you get to kill the person who put up the sign

and to be reimbursed by their estate for the cost of the ammunition.

[VoteProgressive]

10. What an idiotic post. nt

[rzemanfl]

18. I bet you spend very little of your time on jokes. Mine about

Crisco was funnier, I admit.

[cleanhippie]

11. Thats right, they just passed that law.

Forgot about that.

[TheCowsCameHome]

16. If you claim they were trying to steal it, yes.

:spank:

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[Hangingon]

20. Loss of my patronage

[right2bfree]

23. No one cares about one person. nt

[YllwFvr]

26. True

But when 3 or 4 hundred gun owners call they often change there minds. I've seen it happen several times.

[Hangingon]

30. No one cares about a single customer?

Maybe. But CHL/CCW people are often members of gun clubs and ranges. They talk, they post. When there is an alternative source, they often choose the less restrictive vendor.

[cleanhippie]

31. I take it you are not a business owner then?

[right2bfree]

33. Yes, I am. No guns in my place of business. But then I dont live in a wild west state either. nt

[armueller2001]

35. Unless you live in Illinois or Wisconsin

there probably are legally concealed firearms entering your business on a regular basis.

Of course, in IL or WI, it would just be the illegally carried concealed weapons.

[right2bfree]

38. Nope, Here a person goes to jail, as I have the proper signage, checked by the police, no less for.

.legitimacy and legality.

Pack a gun into my store and the perp will be going to jail, unless they run before
the police get here.

If I, or an employee, gets the plates on thier car, they will likely be getting a
knock on the door by LE.

Cops and the general public around these parts really dont like guns in the hands
of the public on our streets, either.

Either way, I just dont want to be around people who are willing to kill others with a gun.

[rrneck]

39. Rush a cop with a knife and see how he feels about it.

Where is "here"?

[armueller2001]

40. Well unfortunately for you,

Unless you avoid grocery stores, movie theaters, and other public venues then you are around people with guns, most likely several per day. ZOMG!!! The sky is falling!

I carry a firearm wherever i am not forbidden by law. I am prepared to use that firearm to deliver lethal force if there is a serious threat to my family or my life. What's wrong with refusing to be a victim?

A gun in the hand beats two cops on the phone.

[rrneck]

32. You just said more than you realize.

Think about it and maybe you will figure out why your ideology is so anti Progressive.

[ManiacJoe]

22. No penalty.

In WA state, "no guns" signs carry no legal weight.

If the owner/manager asks you do leave and you do not, you can be charged with trespassing. However, that has nothing to do with you being armed except that this might be why you are asked to leave.

If it is concealed, who is going to know in the first place.

[AtheistCrusader]

24. In other places, like the secured area of a jail, or the portion of a licensed

liquor-serving establishment that posts 21 and over signs, you forefit your CPL, possible fine, possible forefiture of the weapon.

[ManiacJoe]

25. True. Those areas are prohibited by law.

[Euromutt]

29. I don't think I've ever seen a "circle-slash No Guns" sign in WA

The local malls notionally prohibit carrying firearms, including "pursuant to a license" but they bury it somewhere in a list of "standards of conduct" in small print to the side of the entrance. There's no big eye-catching signs that would be really difficult to miss.

[YllwFvr]

27. The manager or store owner asks you to leave

If you refuse its criminal trespass. Pennsylvania

[right2bfree]

34. Criminal tresspass should result in a felony conviction, no? nt

[YllwFvr]

36. excuse me

its "defiant trespass" 18 Pa. Cons. Stat. 3503 subsection B. Section A is criminal trespass and doesnt fit.
and its an M3, a non prohibiting offense.

No I dont think it should be a felony.

[Remmah2]

37. Soup Nazi, "no soup for you." nt

nt

[Kennah]

41. Here in Washington, it would be akin to violating a "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" sign

If the business says leave, and you don't, then one could be arrested for trespass. However, without hidden metal detectors or security rushing you and frisking you, how would they know if it's concealed?