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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:00 PM
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Texas CHL Conviction Rate lowest ever
The Texas DPS just released their reports on the number of CHL holders convicted of crimes in both 2008 and 2009.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/convrates.htm

I took the number of crime convictions and the number of CHL licensees and derives the rate per 100,000 CHL holders.

I took the number of crime convictions by those over 21, and the number of population over 21 and derived the rate per 100,000 general population over 21.

For 2009, the rate for CHL holders is 25 per 100,000 CHL holders. The rate for the general public over 21? 383 per 100,000.

Here's the last 13 years of data graphed out..





Sources:
Population data: http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/CHS/popdat/detailX.shtm
Number of licensees: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/demographics.htm
Conviction data: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/convrates.htm
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:04 PM
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1. Good Work. N/T
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:05 PM
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2. As a Texas CHL holder since 1995, I am not surprised by this. KandR n/t
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:07 PM
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3. That's excellent news
What's the general population's problem?
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Ken_Fish Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:23 PM
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4. I'm sorry my feelings are far more important than a 13 years of data..
you must respect my feelings right now.. respect my authoritiii.. (nt)
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:25 PM
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5. OK, I LOLed at that. Welcome to DU. n/t
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Ken_Fish Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:28 PM
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6. Thanks, the coverage
of the Wisconsin mess drew me in but this forum is pretty interesting. Considering in the South everyone is pro gun its interesting to post with the city mouse crew where that is not quite the case..
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:36 PM
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 11:20 PM
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8. You're cherry picking.
Availability of guns and ammo to concealed handgun licensees equals availability to the entire population.

Making them scarce for everyone is the only way to go.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 11:29 PM
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9. If by 'cherry picking' you mean..
.. one of these groups is pretty damned trustworthy compared to the other, then sure.

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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 12:08 AM
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10. By that reasoning, there is presumably a group who can responsibly use morphine for recreation.
But recreational use of morphine is not tolerated by society.

Let alone anyone patting themselves on the back for it.
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Ken_Fish Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 12:16 AM
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11. Really, I like numbers. They do a great job smooshing "from the hip" calls
like that. Hey do you have a 13 year sample with n in the millions to cite.

Me thinks not
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 12:21 AM
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14. Just saying, public policy toward a thing deemed dangerous in and of itself.
Despite the possibility that "responsible use" by some can be pleaded.
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Ken_Fish Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 12:26 AM
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15. Its all done. There is only going to be removal of restrictions going forward
50 state ccw, including removing laws in chicago and NJ that restrict ammo and gun transport (except by the bribe paying).

Really this is how things are going to go, the days of the gun control = crime control lie are over. DC and S Chicago stand as monuments to that failure.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 12:20 AM
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13. By that reasoning
Not even close. Recreational use of morphine is not accepted ANYWHERE in the US, recreational use of firearms is.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 12:32 AM
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16. And that is an inconsistency. Indulgence of the gun fetish is without merit.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 12:40 AM
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17. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
But since when has that stopped the anti gun folk from seeking headlines.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:11 AM
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19. Fetish?
You've got to make fun of what you have no control over? Tear it down, make fun of it, call it names because you have absolutely nothing against it except irrational fears and emotions.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:23 AM
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21. I have no control over it, and it can kill and cripple me. You bet I condemn gun culture.
It is irrational for anyone to condone it.
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:22 PM
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27. Fetishes are objects thought to hold magical powers
Let 'em talk .
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:06 AM
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18. There is a group that responsibly uses morphine..
.. they're regulated by physicians, under the auspices of the law- much like CHL holders.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:19 AM
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20. Recreational users? No.
Pain management patients must be whom you are referring to.

Their morphine use might be compared to guns in the hands of police officers.

CHL programs are just an excuse for guns in the hands of the public. Not good.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:30 AM
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22. They are people using it for a legitimate purpose-- pain management or self-defense.
Both are subject to regulation.

I think you're hoist on your own petard, this time, shares.
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timo Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 08:34 AM
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23. he never said recreational
if you bothered to READ
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:50 PM
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24. SU logic, can someone explain it
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:02 PM
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25.  I don't believe that even SU can. n/t
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:20 PM
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26. They are called "Chippers"
If one ends up all strung out , then they are not a chipper after all . All the same , they do exist .
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 12:18 AM
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12. Could be equated to this.
Availability of computers and the internet to child pornographer equals availability to the entire population.

Making them scarce for everyone is the only way to go.

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